Amiga1200

cosmiq · 06 May 2005, 14:09

Hi.
Next week i'm FINALLY getting an amiga 1200 . I've never had a 1200 (always stick to 500 and 500+), but now i thought of upgrading to A1200 with 160mb HD... The question is what I should REALLY check out on this machine, which cannot be seen on the amiga 500. For instance, a demo which only runs on 68020, -or a specific program or game which needs more power than A500 has.
So what i'm really asking is : WHAT is definately worth seeing on a 1200?

spit it out!! make my eyes bleed!

Mick_AKA · 06 May 2005, 18:40

Any AGA only demos is a good place to start.

plasmatron · 06 May 2005, 19:20

Some suggestions from me:

BANSHEE - http://hol.abime.net/31 - Forget 1942 .
ROADKILL - http://hol.abime.net/1252 - Man this game kixx ass !!!
Marvin's Marvellous Adventure - http://hol.abime.net/2415 - PURE AGA color explosion !

kriz · 07 May 2005, 00:25

good suggestions plasmatron!

For demos: http://ada.planet-d.net/ <- check out the requierments, but I would advise you to look for a accelerator card, it is the best investment you can dofor your miggy

wanderer · 07 May 2005, 09:44

AMIGAZ · 07 May 2005, 10:22

If you get an accelerator card you might be able to play some more demanding more good looiking games that push the AGA chip a bit more, for example Crossfire II, T-Zero...most of those games are cd-rom based

Macca · 07 May 2005, 19:33

Most of what Wandered typed are not actually AGA games but some are good fun.. UFO Enemy Unknown is great if you've got the patience as there's a whole world to be imersed in - only one in the series I've ever completed.. shocking really!

BippyM · 07 May 2005, 19:45

All the games Wanderer put in are indeed AGA or have AGA versions available!!

UFO ECS looks nowhere near as good as the AGA version, and I suppose the same goes for other listed games!!

wanderer · 07 May 2005, 23:36

If you have a cd-rom you can try the CD32 versions of AGA games, if available. Mostly, it's just the audio cd music tracks instead of the Paula "chip" music - and some extra levels/world if you 're lucky. Of the games I listed earlier SleepWalker CD32 has superb cd music tracks. (http://hol.abime.net/1978)
Brian the Lion CD32 (http://hol.abime.net/209) and James Pond 2: Robocod CD32 have good music tracks (http://hol.abime.net/783)
Yet another platformer, one of the best, Fire and Ice (http://hol.abime.net/548) is to be found with enhanced AGA graphics in CD32 version only (not A1200-floppy) and it contains some of the best music tracks in Amiga game-music history!

Finally, Alien Breed: Tower Assault CD32 (http://hol.abime.net/3239) contains both the original Alien Breed 2 and the Tower Assault version. (extra levels and storyline) along with some stunning intros. Great release.

Well, if you're into platformers like me, you know where to start

but also take note of what AMIGAZ said !

Firthy2002 · 08 May 2005, 01:40

Stick an 030 in it.

cosmiq · 08 May 2005, 20:43

Ok thanks dudes!
I'll check out the stuff you've all sent, (starting with the scene demo's). Anyway, where do i need an accellerator card or 030 for? The only program (not even 'game') i can think of is cinema or an other image processing program. But getting such a card only for 1 or 2 programs? hmm...

AMIGAZ · 08 May 2005, 20:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmiq

Ok thanks dudes!
I'll check out the stuff you've all sent, (starting with the scene demo's). Anyway, where do i need an accellerator card or 030 for? The only program (not even 'game') i can think of is cinema or an other image processing program. But getting such a card only for 1 or 2 programs? hmm...

You won't get far with only 2mb chip ram, and most never AGA games need more processing power and some fast ram.
An accelerator card has a fast ram slot on it so you can add fast ram, some cards accepts up to 128mb ram.
And when using a harddrive even morew chip ram will be consumed which will leave you with very little left to run any games or applications.

wanderer · 08 May 2005, 21:06

Hey AMIGAZ, what's the difference between SX32 and SX32 pro? I only made it to SX1.

AMIGAZ · 08 May 2005, 21:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by wanderer

Hey AMIGAZ, what's the difference between SX32 and SX32 pro? I only made it to SX1.

SX32 pro has an '030 CPU on the board 25-50mhz and an FPU.
Plain SX32 just has a fast ram slot and a 2.5 inch hd connector.

Almost had a SX32 pro 25mhz in my hands but the seller at Amibench kept my payment and never sent the SX32

I advice people to be careful when posting wanted ads there because anyone can say "well, I have what you're looking for" and just steal your payment.

robotriot · 09 May 2005, 15:38

If you're really serious about watching AGA demos, there's no way around an accelerator anyway (060 preferably). There aren't that many AGA demos which run on a plain 020 (most need at least some Fast RAM), and the *really* good modern ones need a 030+

Mick_AKA · 09 May 2005, 16:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMIGAZ

SX32 pro has an '030 CPU on the board 25-50mhz and an FPU.
Plain SX32 just has a fast ram slot and a 2.5 inch hd connector.

Almost had a SX32 pro 25mhz in my hands but the seller at Amibench kept my payment and never sent the SX32

I advice people to be careful when posting wanted ads there because anyone can say "well, I have what you're looking for" and just steal your payment.

i have had nothing but good experiences with Amibench, always go to collect the item and put the cash in their hand though.

cosmiq · 09 May 2005, 18:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by robotriot

If you're really serious about watching AGA demos, there's no way around an accelerator anyway (060 preferably). There aren't that many AGA demos which run on a plain 020 (most need at least some Fast RAM), and the *really* good modern ones need a 030+

Great..

This means that I must start upgrading right away.... demo's are too cool to leave behind.

BippyM · 09 May 2005, 19:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by robotriot

If you're really serious about watching AGA demos, there's no way around an accelerator anyway (060 preferably). There aren't that many AGA demos which run on a plain 020 (most need at least some Fast RAM), and the *really* good modern ones need a 030+

I wouldn't say the modern ones are "really good" some are some are not!!

Demos on the Amiga for me are about those old skool demos (Big Time Sensuality etc..) and If I wanted to see the 3D demos of now then I have a ppowerful PC

For me the new demos which push the 060 and PPC are not really that good, I'd rather see a new 020/030 demo that pushes the AGA chipset etc.. and has great audio etc..

cosmiq · 09 May 2005, 19:10

Nice to have that said! I'll try what I can do on a plain 1200 in the first place anyway.

wanderer · 09 May 2005, 20:08

Errm, apart from the upgrade, you'll also need a downgrade (in software form

) if you want to play certain incompatible A500 games on the A1200.

06 May 2005, 14:09	#1
cosmiq Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Holland Age: 41 Posts: 314	Amiga1200 Hi. Next week i'm FINALLY getting an amiga 1200 . I've never had a 1200 (always stick to 500 and 500+), but now i thought of upgrading to A1200 with 160mb HD... The question is what I should REALLY check out on this machine, which cannot be seen on the amiga 500. For instance, a demo which only runs on 68020, -or a specific program or game which needs more power than A500 has. So what i'm really asking is : WHAT is definately worth seeing on a 1200? spit it out!! make my eyes bleed!

07 May 2005, 23:36	#9
wanderer I want an A1000 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Pac-Land Posts: 738	If you have a cd-rom you can try the CD32 versions of AGA games, if available. Mostly, it's just the audio cd music tracks instead of the Paula "chip" music - and some extra levels/world if you 're lucky. Of the games I listed earlier SleepWalker CD32 has superb cd music tracks. (http://hol.abime.net/1978) Brian the Lion CD32 (http://hol.abime.net/209) and James Pond 2: Robocod CD32 have good music tracks (http://hol.abime.net/783) Yet another platformer, one of the best, Fire and Ice (http://hol.abime.net/548) is to be found with enhanced AGA graphics in CD32 version only (not A1200-floppy) and it contains some of the best music tracks in Amiga game-music history! Finally, Alien Breed: Tower Assault CD32 (http://hol.abime.net/3239) contains both the original Alien Breed 2 and the Tower Assault version. (extra levels and storyline) along with some stunning intros. Great release. Well, if you're into platformers like me, you know where to start but also take note of what AMIGAZ said ! Last edited by wanderer; 07 May 2005 at 23:45.

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06 May 2005, 18:40	#2
Mick_AKA crusader of light Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Stone, Staffordshire. Posts: 1,151	Any AGA only demos is a good place to start.

06 May 2005, 19:20	#3
plasmatron Zone Friend Join Date: May 2003 Location: Germany Age: 48 Posts: 967	Some suggestions from me: BANSHEE - http://hol.abime.net/31 - Forget 1942 . ROADKILL - http://hol.abime.net/1252 - Man this game kixx ass !!! Marvin's Marvellous Adventure - http://hol.abime.net/2415 - PURE AGA color explosion !

07 May 2005, 00:25	#4
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 41 Posts: 3,188	good suggestions plasmatron! For demos: http://ada.planet-d.net/ <- check out the requierments, but I would advise you to look for a accelerator card, it is the best investment you can dofor your miggy

07 May 2005, 09:44	#5
wanderer I want an A1000 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Pac-Land Posts: 738	Got a bit carried away, most of these hardly push AGA to the limit, but IMO they 're all good AGA games. Brian the Lion http://hol.abime.net/208 Super Stardust http://hol.abime.net/2212 James Pond 2 http://hol.abime.net/782 Zool http://hol.abime.net/1634 Alien Breed II http://hol.abime.net/3234 Alladin http://hol.abime.net/3225 Breathless http://hol.abime.net/204 (I think you need processor upgrade+extra ram for this) Chaos Engine http://hol.abime.net/2984 Final Odyssey http://hol.abime.net/542 Morph http://hol.abime.net/2513 SleepWalker http://hol.abime.net/1977 Soccer Kid http://hol.abime.net/1994 OnEscapee http://hol.abime.net/2305 Pinball Fantasies http://hol.abime.net/1056 Pinball Illusions http://hol.abime.net/1059 Pinball Prelude http://hol.abime.net/1063 Second Samurai http://hol.abime.net/1856 Shadow Fighter http://hol.abime.net/1889 Simon the Sorcerer http://hol.abime.net/1941 UFO: Enemy Unknown http://hol.abime.net/1789

07 May 2005, 10:22	#6
AMIGAZ Amiga-Mad Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Sweden Age: 46 Posts: 1,286	If you get an accelerator card you might be able to play some more demanding more good looiking games that push the AGA chip a bit more, for example Crossfire II, T-Zero...most of those games are cd-rom based

07 May 2005, 19:33	#7
Macca Zone Friend Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Gloucester Posts: 697	Most of what Wandered typed are not actually AGA games but some are good fun.. UFO Enemy Unknown is great if you've got the patience as there's a whole world to be imersed in - only one in the series I've ever completed.. shocking really!

07 May 2005, 19:45	#8
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	All the games Wanderer put in are indeed AGA or have AGA versions available!! UFO ECS looks nowhere near as good as the AGA version, and I suppose the same goes for other listed games!!

08 May 2005, 01:40	#10
Firthy2002 2nd era... Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Leeds, England Age: 40 Posts: 288	Stick an 030 in it.

08 May 2005, 20:43	#11
cosmiq Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Holland Age: 41 Posts: 314	Ok thanks dudes! I'll check out the stuff you've all sent, (starting with the scene demo's). Anyway, where do i need an accellerator card or 030 for? The only program (not even 'game') i can think of is cinema or an other image processing program. But getting such a card only for 1 or 2 programs? hmm...

08 May 2005, 21:06	#13
wanderer I want an A1000 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Pac-Land Posts: 738	Hey AMIGAZ, what's the difference between SX32 and SX32 pro? I only made it to SX1.

09 May 2005, 15:38	#15
robotriot Tubby mechanical friend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Regensburg / Germany Posts: 107	If you're really serious about watching AGA demos, there's no way around an accelerator anyway (060 preferably). There aren't that many AGA demos which run on a plain 020 (most need at least some Fast RAM), and the really good modern ones need a 030+

09 May 2005, 19:10	#19
cosmiq Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Holland Age: 41 Posts: 314	Nice to have that said! I'll try what I can do on a plain 1200 in the first place anyway.

09 May 2005, 20:08	#20
wanderer I want an A1000 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Pac-Land Posts: 738	Errm, apart from the upgrade, you'll also need a downgrade (in software form ) if you want to play certain incompatible A500 games on the A1200.

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