The Vampire II has had a GOLD3 core ALPHA released!

[pcotter]

Originally Posted by Gorf

Why? It is there and it works very well.
If I need speed, the JIT provides it.
If I need cycle exact emulation: UAE can do that as well.
(and even Vampire has a turtle mode for that....)

You are comparing different things but OK! You win.

[Gorf]

Originally Posted by pcotter

You are comparing different things but OK! You win.

Sure.
I repeated myself: the Apollo/Vampire is a impressive thing.
But from the benchmarks you posted, even a old Atom-PC with WinUEA is faster when it comes to raytracing.
A native raytracing program for the PC is again a magnitude faster.
So what is the use-case?
It does not provide any benefits to wait longer for your rendering - the result does not get better or prettier by disabling the JIT or doing it cycle exact.

You can build a fancy steam-engine for your bike, that will provide 30 km/h.
Surely that would be impressive and a magnet on any steam-punk convention.
But if you want to get from A to B, you would just simply use your car.

Things would be different with a ASIC-version.

[nexus]

Originally Posted by UberFreak

Conspiracy theories about garage people stealing your data in an Amiga forum!
I thought I've seen it all

I hoped that once the a.org forum reopened all the trolls will go back there, but unfortunately not...

not trolling or a theory dont get it confused

what i said is pure fact
you can prove what i said easily
what we cant prove is what is on the core due to closed source
but just remember it can be reconfigured to be anything it is a FPGA after all

[majsta]

@nexus We are not just stealing people's data over Vampire cards. Same time we are mining with them earning bitcoins. So win win situation for us. That's our real secret plan. But please don't get this to the public.

[nexus]

Originally Posted by majsta

@nexus We are not just stealing people's data over Vampire cards. Same time we are mining with them earning bitcoins. So win win situation for us. That's our real secret plan.

you could be telling the truth
not like that isnt possible
many routers been hacked to do that etc
tons of websites do it everyday

[majsta]

And now we did it

[nexus]

arent you a dev of a scam crypto coin?
i see a pattern here

[grond]

Originally Posted by nexus

you could be telling the truth
not like that isnt possible
many routers been hacked to do that etc
tons of websites do it everyday

Yeah, brilliant plan to use Amigas instead of which most aren't even connected to the internet.

[Don_Adan]

Originally Posted by Gorf

Why? It is there and it works very well.
If I need speed, the JIT provides it.
If I need cycle exact emulation: UAE can do that as well.
(and even Vampire has a turtle mode for that....)

Sorry, but you cant compare JIT with 68080. Is very easy to create 68k code which will be crash/break JIT, and this code will be dont crash 68080. Self modyfying code is enough to crash JIT. And some JIT version crashes even on not self modyfying code f.e on meynaf's HOMM2 port.

[majsta]

@nexus yes but it is not scam yet, it will be when I run away with the money

[Gorf]

Originally Posted by Don_Adan

Sorry, but you cant compare JIT with 68080. Is very easy to create 68k code which will be crash/break JIT, and this code will be dont crash 68080. Self modyfying code is enough to crash JIT. And some JIT version crashes even on not self modyfying code f.e on meynaf's HOMM2 port.

But on the other hand you don't need the JIT to play HOMM2, WinUAE ist fast enough without ... and actually you do not need an Amiga or emulator at all to play the game.

And since meynaf's HOMM2 is AGA: did you test it on the Vampire with this new core? Does it run at all?

[Tigerskunk]

Originally Posted by nexus

arent you a dev of a scam crypto coin?
i see a pattern here

we alll are. in this moment your machine is hacked and integrated into an Amiga botnet.

[meynaf]

Originally Posted by Don_Adan

Sorry, but you cant compare JIT with 68080. Is very easy to create 68k code which will be crash/break JIT, and this code will be dont crash 68080. Self modyfying code is enough to crash JIT. And some JIT version crashes even on not self modyfying code f.e on meynaf's HOMM2 port.

SMC does not crash JIT, it just makes it slower.
And HOMM2 works fine in JIT mode as well. If it doesn't for you, then either you're using an old version or something has been broken.

On the other hand, it's also easy to make code that will crash on 68080 but work with JIT and any other 68k.

[Don_Adan]

Originally Posted by meynaf

SMC does not crash JIT, it just makes it slower.
And HOMM2 works fine in JIT mode as well. If it doesn't for you, then either you're using an old version or something has been broken.

On the other hand, it's also easy to make code that will crash on 68080 but work with JIT and any other 68k.

No, JIT crashes your port of HOMM2. But this is PPC version (E-UAE).
https://www.ppa.pl/forum/strefa-gier...-2-na-amidze/2
f.e. post 51. And yes, SMC can crash Win-UAE JIT too, but i never tested this, because I dont use WinUAE. Only some people asked me to remove SMC code from TFMX 7v replayers, because replays doesnt works OK. I dont think that you can create 68040 compatible CPU code, which can crash 68080. But you can try. Good CPU test program will be perhaps very useful, for Apollo Team.

[Dunny]

Mining Bitcoin? Stealing personal data? Good god, Nexus is right - this is awful. What about when governments start installing Vampires in their networks, or even replacing their Amigas with them? State secrets will be at risk, and that's just one of the things that could happen. Healthcare data. Social Security. The list goes on.

And what about banking? Once these cards are out in the wild, Lloyd's will almost certainly be snapping them up to power-up their financial systems and I expect Barclay's will also.

There goes your savings, folks.

[TroyWilkins]

Vampire = Skynet...

And I for one welcome our new robotic overlords...

[desiv]

This thread.. Not sure if I should laugh or cry.
Wait, my ebay copy of Fighter Duel Pro arrived, off for real Amiga fun.. ;-)

[Don_Adan]

Originally Posted by TroyWilkins

Vampire = Skynet...

And I for one welcome our new robotic overlords...

Very good idea marketing for new name for Vampite 4. SkyNet 4.0 New Begining, within the worlds fastest 68k CPU. Special standalone version. Buy and check.

[kolla]

Originally Posted by majsta

It can be simple memory expansion using original onboard CPU or advanced device.

Do tell how.

[ronybeck]

Originally Posted by nexus

since it does everything why do you even need the amiga?
cool looking and expensive keyboard?

You're forgetting the floppy drive and LEDs! What an amazing keyboard! Not even the most advanced Logitec keyboard has a built-in floppy drive!