Kick 3.0 -> 3.9 via LoadModule / LoadResident possible?

bladecgn · 01 December 2013, 14:50

I am wondering if you have all the individual modules for Kick 3.9 (from RomSplit + WB3.9), would it be possible to update an Amiga 1200 with 3.0 rom to Kick 3.9 just by LoadModule and/or LoadResident?

Would this use less memory than a softkick of a complete 3.9 kickstart (created with Remus) as not all Modules are new in Kick 3.9 compared to 3.0?

Sandro · 02 December 2013, 02:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by bladecgn

I am wondering if you have all the individual modules for Kick 3.9 (from RomSplit + WB3.9), would it be possible to update an Amiga 1200 with 3.0 rom to Kick 3.9 just by LoadModule and/or LoadResident?

Would this use less memory than a softkick of a complete 3.9 kickstart (created with Remus) as not all Modules are new in Kick 3.9 compared to 3.0?

why you want those new modules? rom updates are not necessary to run OS3.9
you can run OS 3.9 on kickstart 3.0 you don't need loadmodule or loadresident

FOL · 02 December 2013, 02:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandro

why you want those new modules? rom updates are not necessary to run OS3.9
you can run OS 3.9 on kickstart 3.0 you don't need loadmodule or loadresident

No you can't. OS3.9 will only work with KS3.1.
Using 3.0 will result in a blank screen.

You may be able to get away with updated WB library, but I have never bothered trying.

Bamiga2002 · 02 December 2013, 07:16

If you softkick 3.1 kickstart then you'll be able to use 3.9. I've done this in the past before I got physical 3.1 roms.

Sandro · 03 December 2013, 01:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by FOL

No you can't. OS3.9 will only work with KS3.1.
Using 3.0 will result in a blank screen.

You may be able to get away with updated WB library, but I have never bothered trying.

yes OS3.9 works on kickstart 3.0, I have it runing even no softkick to 3.1
patchlibrary simple command in the startup sequence transform all libraries to v40
OS 3.9 was done to work only on kick 3.1 for marketing purposes to sell romkits and the stock of Escom A1200+kick3.1

something like Microsoft did , they never realesed directX10 for windows XP to sell windows vista

bladecgn · 03 December 2013, 05:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandro

yes OS3.9 works on kickstart 3.0, I have it runing even no softkick to 3.1
patchlibrary simple command in the startup sequence transform all libraries to v40

Where can I get this pachlibrary command? IS the BoingBag2 ROM update also possible with this?

emufan · 04 December 2013, 22:09

clauddio made a posting with attached patchlibrary.
i did not tested this myself, but if its working with 3.9 then it should with all the boingbags aswell.

clauddio got banned?

Jope · 06 December 2013, 10:07

It's also on Aminet http://aminet.net/package/util/misc/patchlibrary

S0ulA55a551n · 06 December 2013, 13:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandro

yes OS3.9 works on kickstart 3.0, I have it runing even no softkick to 3.1
patchlibrary simple command in the startup sequence transform all libraries to v40
OS 3.9 was done to work only on kick 3.1 for marketing purposes to sell romkits and the stock of Escom A1200+kick3.1

something like Microsoft did , they never realesed directX10 for windows XP to sell windows vista

Pretty sure some things will not work correctly or at all without 3.1 roms though. Colourwheel gadget from memory ?

TCD · 06 December 2013, 14:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by emufan

clauddio got banned?

clauddio was another duplicate account created by laser.

Retro1234 · 06 December 2013, 15:12

loading module gadtools has also been recommended

bladecgn · 28 September 2017, 23:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bamiga2002

If you softkick 3.1 kickstart then you'll be able to use 3.9. I've done this in the past before I got physical 3.1 roms.

Could you tell me how you did it or (even better) show me your startup-sequence?

nogginthenog · 29 September 2017, 18:47

Plain 68020 CPU? I think the only option is skick.

I use skick on my (MMU-less) A4000/30. Can't show you the startup-sequence as she is sick and waiting for me to do a recap.

bladecgn · 30 September 2017, 07:17

Well I hope she's on her way to recovery!

Yes, plain 68020.

I can use skik wit the -nopatch option to got from 3.0 -> 3.1. Yet it doens't survive reboot and LoadModule / SetPatch brings the system to consntant reboots.

I am really interested in a way to softkick from 3.0 to 3.9 bb2.

McTrinsic · 30 September 2017, 09:55

So the question is how to make the skick (or whatever) resident, right?

bladecgn · 11 October 2017, 17:30

Yes, I guess so...

But I am wondering if someone here ever managed to softkick from 3.0 to 3.9 BB2 without using a special accelerator board with maprom feature....

Or did it by using LoadModule oder SetPatch

01 December 2013, 14:50	#1
bladecgn Registered User Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Essen / Germany Posts: 188	Kick 3.0 -> 3.9 via LoadModule / LoadResident possible? I am wondering if you have all the individual modules for Kick 3.9 (from RomSplit + WB3.9), would it be possible to update an Amiga 1200 with 3.0 rom to Kick 3.9 just by LoadModule and/or LoadResident? Would this use less memory than a softkick of a complete 3.9 kickstart (created with Remus) as not all Modules are new in Kick 3.9 compared to 3.0?

04 December 2013, 22:09	#7
emufan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: #DrainTheSwamp Posts: 4,545	clauddio made a posting with attached patchlibrary. i did not tested this myself, but if its working with 3.9 then it should with all the boingbags aswell. clauddio got banned? Last edited by emufan; 04 December 2013 at 22:29.

30 September 2017, 07:17	#14
bladecgn Registered User Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Essen / Germany Posts: 188	Well I hope she's on her way to recovery! Yes, plain 68020. I can use skik wit the -nopatch option to got from 3.0 -> 3.1. Yet it doens't survive reboot and LoadModule / SetPatch brings the system to consntant reboots. I am really interested in a way to softkick from 3.0 to 3.9 bb2. Last edited by bladecgn; 30 September 2017 at 08:04.

11 October 2017, 17:30	#16
bladecgn Registered User Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Essen / Germany Posts: 188	Yes, I guess so... But I am wondering if someone here ever managed to softkick from 3.0 to 3.9 BB2 without using a special accelerator board with maprom feature.... Or did it by using LoadModule oder SetPatch Last edited by bladecgn; 19 October 2017 at 23:52.

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