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Also if you have new enough firmware, booting from an ISO file from a USB stick becomes easier if you use the ud: device. For example, my 1.5GHz Mac mini, 1.42GHz IBook, and 1.67GHz Powerbook boot the iso just with this line (no need to search exact device numbers): boot ud:,\boot.img bi umsd0:morphos.iso Quote:
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https://dreamolers.binaryriot.org/dualboot.pdf I've made dual-boot systems in both ways, if I have first installed MorphOS and if I have first installed OSX. It's pretty straightforward when you know what's needed. Quote:
There are many nice programs on the CD to try, see applications, tools, and utilities directories. You can also install nice stuff via Grunch or download all kinds of things from MorphOS Storage. |
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Thanks for all that, I'll give this a try some other time with some patience.
Won't mess with it until I can install it on a hard drive though. |
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I have just set up a boot menu with an entry for "\\bootiso.img bi tmp:morphos.iso" - so I just copy the new latest appropriate boot.img to bootiso.img on the bootstrap partition and rename the latest morphos 3.x iso to morphos.iso on my TMP: partition. Then reboot and select the entry, and off it goes, as if booting from CD drive. From there I just use the installer to update the system.
This is the "blessed" boot menu file for my morphos, macos and linux system (it boots to yaboot and linux by default) Code:
<CHRP-BOOT> <COMPATIBLE> MacRISC MacRISC3 MacRISC4 </COMPATIBLE> <DESCRIPTION> First Stage Bootstrap </DESCRIPTION> <BOOT-SCRIPT> : .printf fb8-write drop ; : bootyaboot " Loading second stage bootstrap..." .printf 100 ms load-base release-load-area " /pci@f4000000/ata-6@d/disk@0:2,\\yaboot" $boot ; : bootmorphos " Booting " .printf 100 ms load-base release-load-area " /pci@f4000000/ata-6@d/disk@0:2,\\boot.img" $boot ; : bootmorphosearly " Booting " .printf 100 ms load-base release-load-area " /pci@f4000000/ata-6@d/disk@0:2,\\boot.img bootmenu" $boot ; : bootmorphosiso " Booting " .printf 100 ms load-base release-load-area " /pci@f4000000/ata-6@d/disk@0:2,\\bootiso.img bi tmp:morphos.iso" $boot ; : bootmacosx " Booting MacOSX..." .printf 100 ms load-base release-load-area " hd:4,\\:tbxi" $boot ; : bootcd " Booting CD.." .printf 100 ms load-base release-load-area " cd:,\\:tbxi" $boot ; : bootof " Entering OF.." .printf 100 ms load-base release-load-area " hd:,\\:tbxi" $boot ; " screen" output variable interactive 1 interactive ! 0 interactive @ = if bootyaboot then dev screen " "(0000000000aa00aa0000aaaaaa0000aa00aaaa5500aaaaaa)" drop 0 7 set-colors " "(5555555555ff55ff5555ffffff5555ff55ffffff55ffffff)" drop 8 15 set-colors device-end f to foreground-color 0 to background-color " "(0C)" .printf " First Stage GNU/Linux Bootstrap"(0d 0a)" .printf " "(0d 0a)" .printf " Press l for GNU/Linux,"(0d 0a)" .printf " m for MorphOS, "(0d 0a)" .printf " b for MorphOS (no startup-sequence)."(0d 0a)" .printf " i for MorphOS (TMP:MorphOS.iso)."(0d 0a)" .printf " x for MacOSX."(0d 0a)" .printf " c for CD."(0d 0a)" .printf " o for OpenFirmware."(0d 0a)" .printf " "(0d 0a)" .printf " Stage 1 Boot: " .printf get-msecs d# 10 3E8 * + begin key? if key case ascii l of " l "(0d 0a)" .printf bootyaboot endof ascii m of " m "(0d 0a)" .printf bootmorphos endof ascii b of " b "(0d 0a)" .printf bootmorphosearly endof ascii i of " i "(0d 0a)" .printf bootmorphosiso endof ascii x of " x "(0d 0a)" .printf bootmacosx endof ascii c of " c "(0d 0a)" .printf bootcd endof ascii o of " o "(0d 0a)" .printf bootof endof endcase then dup get-msecs < until drop " "(0d 0a)" .printf bootyaboot </BOOT-SCRIPT> </CHRP-BOOT> Last edited by kolla; 29 March 2018 at 22:56. |
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Yea, I have also made a dual-boot setup, where it normally boots directly to the latest MorphOS, but if I select the second option from the Alt menu, it shows this self-made boot menu:
All the files needed for that can be found here. And remember that if you ever touch the bootinfo.txt file on the boot: partition, you'll have to "bless" it with the HFSSetMacBoot command or the system won't boot anymore (and you'll have to boot from the CD and fix it). |
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I used the link jPV mentioned to sort out my triple boot system and can confirm that it works well, the instructions are still valid
https://dreamolers.binaryriot.org/dualboot.pdf |
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Would actually be cool if the installer could prepare such a menu setup like that
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... hmm ...
I have tried to update my MacBook G4 (Tripple installation, MacOS, Linux & MorphOS) but it fails telling me that there is not enough space left on my Boot-Partition ! ... wah ... don´t want to re-install all 3 OSs ... |
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Check what you have on your Boot: partition. If you have backups of the old MorphOS boot.img files there, they can be deleted freely to make space on the partition. Backups are named like boot_(lotsofnumbers).img (for example, boot_180404124854.img). If you just have too tiny Boot: partition and there aren't any backups to delete, maybe you could remove the current MorphOS boot.img. Your system won't boot anymore, but if you boot from a CD or USB device for the update, I guess it should copy a new one there when installing. One option would also be to copy the new boot.img manually there and hope that installer recognizes it and doesn't try to make a backup. |
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Greetings all,
I got 3.10 dual-booting on my X5000. After I made backups of AmigaOS 4.1.1 and all data. I wasn't able to get MorphOS to install without doing a fresh install. Then reinstalled AmigaOS 4.1.1 back. When I started, I wondered why MorphOS booting from CD stalled. After about 15 minutes of nothing but showing that it was booting...I realized it didn't notice my Graphics Board, one of the common for X5000 users. I went looking for an ATI board I packaged away, this is before I read the list of currently supported boards, and it's noticed fine. Only problem is..when booting to AmigaOS 4.1.1, doing a "reboot fast" causes the machine to become stuck in the reboot process. So I *have* to push the reset button if I don't use "reboot". I'm not going to constantly switch Graphics Boards and I don't do a lot of resetting of AmigaOS 4 anymore since things are going very well, unless I forget to unplug my Atari Joystick (via USB) from it..haha! MorphOS 3.10 looks pretty good, but it's a bit different than Amiga I have known for many, many, many years. So far I'm not able to get Payback 68K to go beyond the "freeze" when showing the progress bars when attempting to connect to sound, or load sound files. I LOVE the SnoopDOS like program, had to modify some settings but that's awesome!! I wish (or does?) a program like that exists for AmigaOS 4.1. The 68K version sort of works, but... Anyway, I'm still becoming used to MorphOS. I did notice that that I have to use the MorphOS HDPrep or AmigaOS 4's HDToolBox like program for switching between the 2 OSes. Just like my A4000's Dual boot between OS 3.x's... At first, when AmigaOS's program informed me of a Faulty RDB I was wondering if it repairing it would destroy it, but nope...whew! I have Payback 68K running fine with AmigaOS 4, and at some point I'll have it working with MorphOS. Anyone, one of the X5000 users that has it dual-booting. Yay! Haha! So far, though, I don't "yet" think I'll be using MorphOS 3.10 more than AmigaOS. I hope to change that since it is actively more supported. Is there a way to get MorphOS to use/SEE all 4GB of my X5000's RAM that AmigaOS 4.1.1 does not?? Cheers, everyone. |
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Nope, not a chance. To be compatible with AmigaOS software, it is restricted to the same limitations as 68k AmigaOS when it comes to memory and address space. The max amount of RAM you can see is... 1720MB or thereabouts(?), as lots of address space is dedicated and reserved for other use than system memory.
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Not a possibility... I've read this a few times but still wondered. I'll probably go ahead and remove the other stick then and "save" it until I needed sometime. Not any sense in keeping it in there if it's not being used at all like my Doze 7 with 16GB is used.
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Back in the days, I made lister views in DOpus for all kinds of things, from simple IMAP and NNTP client scripts, with DOPus listing my inbox and browsing usenet groups (and double click to read), to lister for displaying and letting me control CD players and play music from MP3 folders on remote linux systems. Last summer I revisited this ability of DOpus listers, but then for doing remote management of virtual hosts at Digital-Ocean via rsh (which Olaf "Olsen" was superkind to create for me over a weekend!) for Roadshow. Sitting on the MiST with PPP over serial link to a Pi Zero (built into the MiST), creating and destroying vhosts at DO using buttons and menus in DOpus, and seeing them come up and vanish in the DOpus lister was quite satisfying If time permits I will work more on that, and I have an idea about how to use the listers for k8s as well... being able to administrate both VMs and k8s-clusters from the MiST sounds amusing |
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...Thats actually pretty hilariously awesome :-D
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Yeah, Magellan is just insanely cool and powerful program, it still is after all these years, and we probably never will see as comprehensive program/desktop for us ever again. TBH I'm still mostly using it instead of Ambient for my daily MorphOS use. Ambient is kind of a compromise between Magellan and Workbench.
I haven't made as cool scripting as kolla (yet, but not giving up using it any year soon, so some day, some day) But I've scratched the Magellan ARexx functionality by making a script which I use to update my demoscene releases web page. It digs file_id.diz files from archives, gets size and date information from DOpus listers, shows DOpus progress bar while doing it in batch, uploads files with ftp to the server, etc. And some smaller scripts/functions to copy file comments and stuff like that. |
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I'm not a fan of OS 3.9 other than Fast Mem being able to be used for most graphics; excluding games. There are a few bugs I've noticed. I'm still a big fan of 3.1 and 3.5. But I get your drift. That's a trip about Directory Opus Magellan as I didn't notice that. Again, not a lot of usage yet. Quote:
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Peg 1 isn't supported? I thought I'd read in the Setup that it is. I read quickly as my focus was X5000. I was REALLY excited and expected "out of the box". So far, that's the only bummer. But, it'll do for now. I think, for all that I've seen that the Morph team is doing a great job. I know there are features I haven't yet explored. |
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WOW!! I got into them also to handle many things I did but you...got me beat in some very interesting ways. *Scratches Chin* Hmm...
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Software rendering is the only choice for Payback 68K and WOS. So, I think, yeah, this board isn't yet supported. Not a big deal, so far, the Wazp prefs run under OS 4 and so does Payback 68K and WOS (without sound). I'm more curious than anything else as to what's happening. I'll poke around more this Weekend probably. The Wazp3D install is pretty clear. Using that SnoopDOS type program I can see files needed are being loaded, but I'm wondering...why it stops in that process. The screen first shows a bit garbled, but I can see Payback's Progress Bar where it stops after the 2nd bar. If I flip screens, and return to Payback's...the screen is then Black and the progress bar colors look correct...so, indicators of GFX board it looks like. Quote:
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>Wazp3D-Prefs [...] won't show the GUI with my MorphOS install So Wazp3D is not installed well as Wazp3D-Prefs is not a real prefs program but only some code to start the prefs-gui that is built-in Wazp3D: I mean: No Gui = No Wazp3D Beware that latest Wazp3D for Morphos is a "fork" from BSzili that is not in main aminet/wazp3D See here for installation guide http://www.batteman.com/2017/08/amig...s-morphos.html |
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