A2000 Cd-Rom Setup?

21 May 2007, 17:42

Ok here is my problem. I have a Amiga 2000 1mb 2 floppy drives and an ICD adscsi advantage. No hard drive but want to get a cdrom working on it. I have the cdrom plugged in but the icd install disk doesnt give any options for setting up a cd instead of a hard drive. Can someone tell me what I need to do to get workbench to access the cdrom.

Thanks

Jope · 21 May 2007, 18:05

You need a cd filesystem and a suitable mountlist.

What OS are you running on the machine?

alexh · 21 May 2007, 18:11

You need to install a CD-ROM Filesystem onto your workbench disks (Use a backup!)

http://aminet.net/package/disk/cdrom/amicdfs240

If this doesnt work with the vanilla 68000 CPU and 1Mbyte you may have to get ASIMWare's AsimCDFS 3.9

With no hard drive and only 1Mbyte you will be seriously crippled.

GET A HARD DRIVE!

alexh · 21 May 2007, 18:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jope

What OS are you running on the machine?

Heh, 1Mbyte Amiga with no hard drive... he's not running ANY OS.

Workbench of floppy drive I guess

Jope · 22 May 2007, 07:12

Well it's a start.. :-)

I'm with Alex on this one, try and get a hard drive.. A2091s can be had for around 10 euro nowadays and old 1GB SCSI drives don't cost that much either.

alexh · 22 May 2007, 12:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jope

A2091s can be had for around 10 euro nowadays

He's got a SCSI card!! An ICD adscsi advantage. All he needs is the hard drive.

Trying to get a CD-ROM to work before getting a hard drive is a bit nuts in the Amiga world... but not impossible.

Galaxy · 22 May 2007, 13:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

Trying to get a CD-ROM to work before getting a hard drive is a bit nuts in the Amiga world... but not impossible.

Yeah semi-nuts unless you're going down the A500+A570 route.

Zetec-s · 22 May 2007, 13:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaxy

Yeah semi-nuts unless you're going down the A500+A570 route.

So nuts that Commodore even made a machine with no hard drive and a CD-Rom,

and sold it for a premium even without a keyboard.

alexh · 22 May 2007, 13:58

A570 & CDTV both have CD-ROM drivers and CDFS in ROM, not exactly practical for an A2000.

dambuster · 22 May 2007, 18:40

you can also get scsi to ide adaptors to allow any ide hard drive to work

Jope · 22 May 2007, 19:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

He's got a SCSI card!! An ICD adscsi advantage. All he needs is the hard drive.

Argh.. :-D Sometimes it's best not to get out of bed at all.

Malakie · 22 December 2021, 14:44

Hi,

I am setting up a CD Rom drive (scsi or IDE can be used) on an A2000 under OS 3.2. What changes or needs are required under this version, being I am just learning this newer OS functionality?

For example, I see it is supposed to be able to load ADF's with a click, yet that is also something I can't seem to get functional either. I am wondering if that is due to the disk install I am using vs the CD Rom version, thus I want to get a CD Rom running to see if there is some missing parts from the disk version.

Matt_H · 22 December 2021, 15:30

It’s very easy with 3.2. Copy Sys:Storage/DosDrivers/CD0 and CD0.info to Devs: DosDrivers. Adjust the tooltypes to match your SCSI device name and unit number. (You’re on a 2091, right? So the default of scsi.device will work.) Save. Double-click CD0. Done.

Jope · 22 December 2021, 15:36

The disk version should be identical to the CD version, as the CD version installs from the same ADFs used to make the disks..

If you have c:dacontrol and devs:trackfile.device then you are all set for ADF mounting. Deficons needs to be running of course if you want to have virtual icons that run dacontrol when double clicked, but again part of the default installation.

Malakie · 22 December 2021, 17:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt_H

It’s very easy with 3.2. Copy Sys:Storage/DosDrivers/CD0 and CD0.info to Devs: DosDrivers. Adjust the tooltypes to match your SCSI device name and unit number. (You’re on a 2091, right? So the default of scsi.device will work.) Save. Double-click CD0. Done.

Hmm that's what I thought. Thanks

Malakie · 22 December 2021, 17:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jope

The disk version should be identical to the CD version, as the CD version installs from the same ADFs used to make the disks..

If you have c:dacontrol and devs:trackfile.device then you are all set for ADF mounting. Deficons needs to be running of course if you want to have virtual icons that run dacontrol when double clicked, but again part of the default installation.

Ok will double check that. Trying to figure out why WB 3.2 won't show the CD on the Workbench at all, regardless of the drive or CD I use. Appears fine in HD Toolbox, does the whole spin up routine but no icons appear for anything and in CLI, it errors trying to access the device.

The two CD drives I am testing with work just fine on the other A2000 under 2.04 and 3.1 OS.

Another problem I located, I bought two 3.2 kickstarts from dealers. I assumed the revision of the code on them was the same. Apparently not. Both show different revision numbers in when they are checked.

And depending on which kickstart I put in, I get different symptoms for the issues I have been seeing.

What I don't get, is how there can be multiple versions of 3.2 kickstart in use? I would think it would be kickstart 3.2.0 or 3.2.1, 3.2.3 and so on if there are a bunch of different versions.

The latest one I have is on my other rev 6 board and is rev 47.xx and I assume that is the current latest revision.

Jope · 23 December 2021, 09:50

Interesting. There are two official 3.2 kickstarts, the latest one was released quite recently.

Which full revisions do you have in your two 3.2 rom sets?

Malakie · 23 December 2021, 22:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jope

Interesting. There are two official 3.2 kickstarts, the latest one was released quite recently.

Which full revisions do you have in your two 3.2 rom sets?

Next time I boot those up, I will grab the numbers and post them.. Possibly tomorrow.. real life in the way at the moment with the holiday here.

21 May 2007, 17:42	#1
sockpuppet999 Posts: n/a	A2000 Cd-Rom Setup? Ok here is my problem. I have a Amiga 2000 1mb 2 floppy drives and an ICD adscsi advantage. No hard drive but want to get a cdrom working on it. I have the cdrom plugged in but the icd install disk doesnt give any options for setting up a cd instead of a hard drive. Can someone tell me what I need to do to get workbench to access the cdrom. Thanks

21 May 2007, 18:11	#3
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	You need to install a CD-ROM Filesystem onto your workbench disks (Use a backup!) http://aminet.net/package/disk/cdrom/amicdfs240 If this doesnt work with the vanilla 68000 CPU and 1Mbyte you may have to get ASIMWare's AsimCDFS 3.9 With no hard drive and only 1Mbyte you will be seriously crippled. GET A HARD DRIVE! Last edited by alexh; 21 May 2007 at 18:17.

22 December 2021, 14:44	#12
Malakie Registered User Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 194	How does this change using OS 3.2? Hi, I am setting up a CD Rom drive (scsi or IDE can be used) on an A2000 under OS 3.2. What changes or needs are required under this version, being I am just learning this newer OS functionality? For example, I see it is supposed to be able to load ADF's with a click, yet that is also something I can't seem to get functional either. I am wondering if that is due to the disk install I am using vs the CD Rom version, thus I want to get a CD Rom running to see if there is some missing parts from the disk version.

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21 May 2007, 18:05	#2
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,861	You need a cd filesystem and a suitable mountlist. What OS are you running on the machine?

22 May 2007, 07:12	#5
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,861	Well it's a start.. :-) I'm with Alex on this one, try and get a hard drive.. A2091s can be had for around 10 euro nowadays and old 1GB SCSI drives don't cost that much either.

22 May 2007, 13:58	#9
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	A570 & CDTV both have CD-ROM drivers and CDFS in ROM, not exactly practical for an A2000.

22 May 2007, 18:40	#10
dambuster Zone Friend Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Dundee / Scotland Posts: 151	you can also get scsi to ide adaptors to allow any ide hard drive to work

22 December 2021, 15:30	#13
Matt_H Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 943	It’s very easy with 3.2. Copy Sys:Storage/DosDrivers/CD0 and CD0.info to Devs: DosDrivers. Adjust the tooltypes to match your SCSI device name and unit number. (You’re on a 2091, right? So the default of scsi.device will work.) Save. Double-click CD0. Done.

22 December 2021, 15:36	#14
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,861	The disk version should be identical to the CD version, as the CD version installs from the same ADFs used to make the disks.. If you have c:dacontrol and devs:trackfile.device then you are all set for ADF mounting. Deficons needs to be running of course if you want to have virtual icons that run dacontrol when double clicked, but again part of the default installation.

23 December 2021, 09:50	#17
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,861	Interesting. There are two official 3.2 kickstarts, the latest one was released quite recently. Which full revisions do you have in your two 3.2 rom sets?

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