Amithlon Setup Guide - Page 13

alpyre · 04 October 2009, 01:13

@tero
Nightlong aint a Team17 production... It is ClickBOOM (PXL)
http://hol.abime.net/977

tero · 04 October 2009, 03:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by alpyre

@tero
Nightlong aint a Team17 production... It is ClickBOOM (PXL)
http://hol.abime.net/977

Clickboom did the port, original team17

http://www.dream17.co.uk/softography.php?id=37

btw: got at least a demo of napalm, will do my try tomorrow - ähm, later today

tero · 04 October 2009, 19:51

I have Napalm(demo) working when booting Amithlon
with kernel boot options 'vga=769' 'video=dovesa' (640 at 8bit)

Maybe it will do with Nightlong too, can't find an Amiga demo
vga=784 is 640/15bit then (as Charlie said: your Card must support that)

It's not a prefered solution but work here

alpyre · 05 October 2009, 09:54

@tero
Thanks for the info...
and sorry for my misguiding...

The game was not Napalm, it was Earth 2140 which requests a BigEndian screenmode. I have too many CD's around these days, sorry. BTW what is the bigendiannes of a screen mode? I first got to learn about that.

I have Nvidia TI4200... One of the best supported cards by Amithlon... I'll try booting 15 bits... and write the results here...

tero · 05 October 2009, 10:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by alpyre

BTW what is the bigendiannes of a screen mode?

that is the Byte-Order
big-endian = highest bit first
little-endian = lowest bit first

maybe known from our 68k processor (big-endian) compared to x86 (little-endian)
(IA-64 and some PPC can do both)

it's also used in some grafic stuff too. maybe some gimp user knows it better then me (it's sometimes used in gimp scripts)
it's the byte order there too

alpyre · 05 October 2009, 11:18

@tero:
Yeah! I found Napalm in my Archive... It works very smoothly... Who needs sucking RedAlert when they can have Napalm... :P

When I try to boot with vga=784, kernel reports "Invalid Mode ID"... I think my VideoCard doesn't support 15bit modes.

tero · 05 October 2009, 20:34

ähm.. about nightlong, did you play it already?
the pc version can't be finished sometimes - hangUp where you have to go
to the sphinx. It might be of interest if this happens in Amiga version too.

Have a look on the table, maybe another modeID will do
depth | 640x480; 800x600; 1024x768; 1280x1024
(8bit) | 769, 771, 773, 775
(15bit) | 784, 787, 790, 793
(16bit) | 785, 788, 791, 794
(24bit) | 786, 789, 792, 795

alpyre · 10 October 2009, 19:06

This thread was lacking a video feed... So here it is...
Enjoy!

Charlie · 10 October 2009, 19:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by alpyre

This thread was lacking a video feed... So here it is...
Enjoy!

He, he - excellent alpyre.

(Thanks for the pm, BTW)

Shame the b*ggers pulled the sound track.

cosmicfrog · 11 October 2009, 18:14

Kewl Stuff

Might want reedit the sound though

KillaByte · 11 October 2009, 19:46

I fiddled around with the available Amithlon kernel sources this weekend. The result are three patchsets for the original and new Bernie kernels, as well as the 3.00 Kernel from Gary (does anybody have the sources for his 3.10 kernel?)

Grab them here: *click*

You need the following kernel.org sources to base them on:
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kern...2.4.12.tar.bz2
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kern...2.4.12-ac1.bz2

http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kern...2.4.18.tar.bz2
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kern....4.19-pre4.bz2

The Gary patch is based on the new Bernie kernel and adds some new drivers (network, sata, graphics cards).

The patchsets for the Bernie kernels are divided into three directories. The 'amithlon' directory holds the stuff I believe are the main Amithlon changes. The 'third-party' folder contains ALSA and ReiserFS patches that Bernie seems to have applied to the vanilla kernel before adding the Amithlon stuff on top - I don't know if they're needed for Amithlon to work correctly. The stuff in the 'noise' directory is only included for completeness - I don't think that it's relevant.

The main amithlon patch comes very close to the patch for the 2.4.35.3 kernel that's available on aminet.

I hope this is of some use for anyone.

Charlie · 11 October 2009, 22:31

Thanks very much for the info KillaByte.

KillaByte · 12 October 2009, 07:01

Unfortunately it won't be as easy as "grab these patches and massage them into the latest 2.4 kernel" since some drivers (like graphics drivers) need some adaptions for Amithlon. This is exactly what Gary did.

But when I get some time I'll try it, I guess. I'll see if I can get Amithlon running in VirtualBox because right now I don't have any real disk space to spare.

Charlie · 12 October 2009, 18:00

If you have the time + patience I (and I suspect many others) would be most grateful.

Maybe someone has gary's 3.1 sources sitting on a HDD somewhere.

tero · 12 October 2009, 19:16

@Killabyte
Great what you figured out there

I think i will play with that, but i have weak skills on compiling/patching
a Kernel

The latest sources i've seen are somewhere in the middle of
3.00t1 and 3.10, it's named 3.00 so i guess that is the one
you have allready
If not:
http://www.a1k.org/forum/showthread.php?t=12250
It's a german board, maybe you know it

KillaByte · 12 October 2009, 20:00

Yeah - these are the sources I used for the Gary diff. But yes - these seem to be stuck somewhere between 3.00 and 3.10

tero · 12 October 2009, 20:51

@KillaByte
I remember Gary had some trouble with his bandwidth, chances are the
3.10 sources never come to public

KillaByte · 12 October 2009, 22:14

Yeah shame - too bad he didn't take the opportunity to distribute his sources in the form of patches. That would have resulted in smaller, less bandwidth hungry files.

Methanoid · 13 October 2009, 00:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillaByte

Yeah shame - too bad he didn't take the opportunity to distribute his sources in the form of patches. That would have resulted in smaller, less bandwidth hungry files.

I am grateful for Gary's kernels but the man has a big chip on shoulder if he cannot even respond to ANY email no matter how polite, even if to say "Not Interested".

KillaByte - give it a go.. we WILL love you for it

KillaByte · 13 October 2009, 06:57

Not to raise too much expectations here - if I'll look into this any further it won't be in the next few weeks.

11 October 2009, 18:14	#250
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 56 Posts: 3,557	Kewl Stuff Might want reedit the sound though Last edited by cosmicfrog; 11 October 2009 at 18:20.

13 October 2009, 06:57	#260
KillaByte Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 77	Not to raise too much expectations here - if I'll look into this any further it won't be in the next few weeks. Last edited by KillaByte; 13 October 2009 at 07:04.

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04 October 2009, 01:13	#241
alpyre Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Samsun / Turkey Posts: 66	@tero Nightlong aint a Team17 production... It is ClickBOOM (PXL) http://hol.abime.net/977

04 October 2009, 19:51	#243
tero Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: M'Gladbach Age: 46 Posts: 621	I have Napalm(demo) working when booting Amithlon with kernel boot options 'vga=769' 'video=dovesa' (640 at 8bit) Maybe it will do with Nightlong too, can't find an Amiga demo vga=784 is 640/15bit then (as Charlie said: your Card must support that) It's not a prefered solution but work here

05 October 2009, 09:54	#244
alpyre Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Samsun / Turkey Posts: 66	@tero Thanks for the info... and sorry for my misguiding... The game was not Napalm, it was Earth 2140 which requests a BigEndian screenmode. I have too many CD's around these days, sorry. BTW what is the bigendiannes of a screen mode? I first got to learn about that. I have Nvidia TI4200... One of the best supported cards by Amithlon... I'll try booting 15 bits... and write the results here...

05 October 2009, 11:18	#246
alpyre Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Samsun / Turkey Posts: 66	@tero: Yeah! I found Napalm in my Archive... It works very smoothly... Who needs sucking RedAlert when they can have Napalm... :P When I try to boot with vga=784, kernel reports "Invalid Mode ID"... I think my VideoCard doesn't support 15bit modes.

05 October 2009, 20:34	#247
tero Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: M'Gladbach Age: 46 Posts: 621	ähm.. about nightlong, did you play it already? the pc version can't be finished sometimes - hangUp where you have to go to the sphinx. It might be of interest if this happens in Amiga version too. Have a look on the table, maybe another modeID will do depth \| 640x480; 800x600; 1024x768; 1280x1024 (8bit) \| 769, 771, 773, 775 (15bit) \| 784, 787, 790, 793 (16bit) \| 785, 788, 791, 794 (24bit) \| 786, 789, 792, 795

10 October 2009, 19:06	#248
alpyre Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Samsun / Turkey Posts: 66	This thread was lacking a video feed... So here it is... Enjoy!

11 October 2009, 19:46	#251
KillaByte Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 77	I fiddled around with the available Amithlon kernel sources this weekend. The result are three patchsets for the original and new Bernie kernels, as well as the 3.00 Kernel from Gary (does anybody have the sources for his 3.10 kernel?) Grab them here: click You need the following kernel.org sources to base them on: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kern...2.4.12.tar.bz2 http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kern...2.4.12-ac1.bz2 http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kern...2.4.18.tar.bz2 http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kern....4.19-pre4.bz2 The Gary patch is based on the new Bernie kernel and adds some new drivers (network, sata, graphics cards). The patchsets for the Bernie kernels are divided into three directories. The 'amithlon' directory holds the stuff I believe are the main Amithlon changes. The 'third-party' folder contains ALSA and ReiserFS patches that Bernie seems to have applied to the vanilla kernel before adding the Amithlon stuff on top - I don't know if they're needed for Amithlon to work correctly. The stuff in the 'noise' directory is only included for completeness - I don't think that it's relevant. The main amithlon patch comes very close to the patch for the 2.4.35.3 kernel that's available on aminet. I hope this is of some use for anyone.

11 October 2009, 22:31	#252
Charlie . . Mouse . . Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nowhere Age: 55 Posts: 1,792	Thanks very much for the info KillaByte.

12 October 2009, 07:01	#253
KillaByte Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 77	Unfortunately it won't be as easy as "grab these patches and massage them into the latest 2.4 kernel" since some drivers (like graphics drivers) need some adaptions for Amithlon. This is exactly what Gary did. But when I get some time I'll try it, I guess. I'll see if I can get Amithlon running in VirtualBox because right now I don't have any real disk space to spare.

12 October 2009, 18:00	#254
Charlie . . Mouse . . Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nowhere Age: 55 Posts: 1,792	If you have the time + patience I (and I suspect many others) would be most grateful. Maybe someone has gary's 3.1 sources sitting on a HDD somewhere.

12 October 2009, 19:16	#255
tero Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: M'Gladbach Age: 46 Posts: 621	@Killabyte Great what you figured out there I think i will play with that, but i have weak skills on compiling/patching a Kernel The latest sources i've seen are somewhere in the middle of 3.00t1 and 3.10, it's named 3.00 so i guess that is the one you have allready If not: http://www.a1k.org/forum/showthread.php?t=12250 It's a german board, maybe you know it

12 October 2009, 20:00	#256
KillaByte Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 77	Yeah - these are the sources I used for the Gary diff. But yes - these seem to be stuck somewhere between 3.00 and 3.10

12 October 2009, 20:51	#257
tero Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: M'Gladbach Age: 46 Posts: 621	@KillaByte I remember Gary had some trouble with his bandwidth, chances are the 3.10 sources never come to public

12 October 2009, 22:14	#258
KillaByte Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 77	Yeah shame - too bad he didn't take the opportunity to distribute his sources in the form of patches. That would have resulted in smaller, less bandwidth hungry files.

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