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Old 27 December 2020, 17:36   #1
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Slaves removed from WHDLoad site

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2020-12-25: installs created by VrS! have been removed on author's request
This is the first time I personally remember seeing this happen.

I feel like if you submit a slave, it should become a part of history unless someone releases an updated version, but that's ultimately Wepl's decision.

Anyway, from what I'm seeing the list of slaves is:

Demo: Masterpieces (Kefrens)
Demo: Rampage (The Electronic Knights)
Demo: Boris Vallejo (Apocalypse Bay)
Demo: Metal & Lace (Apocalypse Bay)
Demo: Checked Implosion (Intryx)
Demo: Black'n White (Pentagon)
Demo: Sweltering Forest (Apocalypse Bay)

I'm not expecting anyone to redo the slaves, but I thought I'd mention that these slaves are no longer available.
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Old 27 December 2020, 17:41   #2
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Odd, I would imagine they'll be redone by others in no time at all, so that will undo the unnecessary damage by VRS!

Childish behaviour

EDIT: I'm guessing VRS! is the original coder Vars0 of the Apocalypse Bay productions, still doesn't explain why he would want them deleted.

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Old 27 December 2020, 17:41   #3
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Nothing what Stingray could patch anyway, if he is bored at some point.
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stoopid specially when some people may have collected them... wink wink

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exactly.
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Old 27 December 2020, 17:53   #5
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stoopid specially when some people may have collected them... wink wink



exactly.
I dunno, a quick resource of the slaves, change the code a bit, re-assemble, package, upload, done ?
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Old 27 December 2020, 17:59   #6
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I'm not expecting anyone to redo the slaves, but I thought I'd mention that these slaves are no longer available.

I'll redo some of them. Not sure why he wanted to have his patches removed, but it is his decision and should be respected IMHO.
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a quick resource of the slaves, change the code a bit, re-assemble, package, upload, done
I have written a whdload slave resourcer to be able to update slaves where source code has been lost.

If Stingray redoes them, the new version will probably be better since demofixing is not the easiest and Stingray has the biggest experience here.
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Old 27 December 2020, 18:23   #8
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it is his decision and should be respected IMHO.
Agreed. I'm not criticizing VrS! or anything. I just wanted to let others know that slaves have been removed.
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Old 27 December 2020, 18:36   #9
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I did notice that message but hadn't heard of him and wasn't aware of what he had created slaves for.

Seemed a bit strange to me.
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I'll redo some of them. Not sure why he wanted to have his patches removed, but it is his decision and should be respected IMHO.
Disagree, there literally is no legitimate reason to want your installs removed except in a fit of pique.

Its not a decision I can respect at all, its just a completely pointless exercise.
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Old 27 December 2020, 19:02   #11
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From the WHDLoad news:

I feel like if you submit a slave, it should become a part of history unless someone releases an updated version, but that's ultimately Wepl's decision.

Anyway, from what I'm seeing the list of slaves is:

Demo: Masterpieces (Kefrens)
Demo: Rampage (The Electronic Knights)
Demo: Boris Vallejo (Apocalypse Bay)
Demo: Metal & Lace (Apocalypse Bay)
Demo: Checked Implosion (Intryx)
Demo: Black'n White (Pentagon)
Demo: Sweltering Forest (Apocalypse Bay)

I'm not expecting anyone to redo the slaves, but I thought I'd mention that these slaves are no longer available.
Maybe not from the WHDLoad website, but the WHD installers plus demos are all still available from the personal website of VRS!

Demo: Masterpieces (Kefrens) [see HERE for installer]
Demo: Rampage (The Electronic Knights) [see HERE for installer]
Demo: Boris Vallejo (Apocalypse Bay)
Demo: Metal & Lace (Apocalypse Bay)
Demo: Checked Implosion (Intryx) [see HERE for installer]
Demo: Black'n White (Pentagon) [see HERE for installer]
Demo: Sweltering Forest (Apocalypse Bay)

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Old 27 December 2020, 19:18   #12
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Disagree, there literally is no legitimate reason to want your installs removed except in a fit of pique.

Its not a decision I can respect at all, its just a completely pointless exercise.
I understand and accept your opinion, I do, however, think that sometimes there may be reasons for certain decisions only the involved person(s) can understand. While I don't see why removing the patches was necessary at all, I at least can respect the decision.


In other news: the Masterpieces patch has been redone already, once I have created the icons/install package, it should be available again on the WHDLoad site. Most probably tomorrow I guess.
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Ahem.
http://web.archive.org/web/202011010...emos/allv.html
Search page for "VrS!"
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internet never forgets.

Good luck with the removing of those pages
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Old 28 December 2020, 12:51   #15
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Finding the old patches on the net is no problem but that doesn't make them available again on the WHDLoad site.

First removed patch (Masterpieces by Kefrens) has been redone and added to the WHDLoad site again. Others will follow in due time.
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Old 28 December 2020, 13:58   #16
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yeah, whdload should be the reference. I was sure that Sting would be interested in rewriting everything. He just likes to rewrite everything anyway

As a bonus, I'm pretty sure that the new slaves will work better than the old ones. Demos are harder to fix. Sometimes even Toni gives up fixing winuae for some.
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the new version will probably be better since demofixing is not the easiest and Stingray has the biggest experience here.
I don't know but the starfield no longer appears with the new version with whdload 18.6 on my a1200 (4 mb fast)
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