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Old 23 February 2021, 01:28   #1021
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Thank you.

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No update since the year 1993 *requires* you to physically update your
Kickstart ROM beyond 3.1.

It is up to you, the user to decide, and there are many alternatives
which include using built-in software tricks (like LoadModule), using
flash memory specialized hardware expansions, or taking
advantage of the maprom feature that many accelerators provide.

This is not new. AmigaOS 3.5, AmigaOS 3.9, AmigaOS 3.1.4 and also
AmigaOS 3.2 all have a built-in software mechanism that will update a
3.1 physical Kickstart ROM.

That said, each method has its own benefits and shortcomings which
should be considered by each user individually before making a
decision.

Several bug fixes of 3.5, 3.9 and 3.1.4 were provided free of charge.
We want to follow the same concept for 3.2.

Any discount or request to change the update policy should be directed at Hyperion. We do not manage any of those.

Sorry, you did not answer question at all Does Amiga 0S 3.2 come with a new kickstart ROM to burn to EPROM? A simple yes or no is all I need and you have not clearly stated either way. I know there's options if my kickstart is not the latest, I just need to know whether or not a newer one is coming with 3.2
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Old 23 February 2021, 02:27   #1022
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Yes - There will be a new Kickstart ROM in the eventual release.

And no - just like 3.1.4 - You will have the option to make use of an older ROM at the expense of consuming additional RAM for the soft loaded updates. This also means you cannot gain the expansion.library improvements (it can't be soft-updated) or the earliest boot up exec code (i.e. 68060 support is not in KS 3.1, but it is in 3.1.4).
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Old 24 February 2021, 23:28   #1023
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Hi, is FFS is somehow updated in AOS 3.2?
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Old 25 February 2021, 04:53   #1024
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Hi, is FFS is somehow updated in AOS 3.2?
Yes, but only to support a minor, yet interesting new feature.

But nothing major over there, as our focus this time revolved around making things easier for the user who gets a huge amount of new cool things to enrich their AmigaOS experience.
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Old 25 February 2021, 19:21   #1025
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Yes, but only to support a minor, yet interesting new feature.

But nothing major over there, as our focus this time revolved around making things easier for the user who gets a huge amount of new cool things to enrich their AmigaOS experience.
Sounds great.. thanks!
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Old 26 February 2021, 06:00   #1026
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who gets a huge amount of new cool things to enrich their AmigaOS experience.
Amazing, can't wait...
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Old 26 February 2021, 11:52   #1027
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our focus this time revolved around making things easier for the user who gets a huge amount of new cool things to enrich their AmigaOS experience.
This sounds very promising! Looking forward to seeing the full feature-list!
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Old 28 February 2021, 00:58   #1028
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Yes - There will be a new Kickstart ROM in the eventual release.

And no - just like 3.1.4 - You will have the option to make use of an older ROM at the expense of consuming additional RAM for the soft loaded updates. This also means you cannot gain the expansion.library improvements (it can't be soft-updated) or the earliest boot up exec code (i.e. 68060 support is not in KS 3.1, but it is in 3.1.4).

Cheers
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Howdy,
Just curious, what's the latest on CDTV support?

There were some questions about this about a year ago I think, anything changed since or are things the same as then, meaning no CDTV support?
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Old 01 March 2021, 17:53   #1030
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Just curious, what's the latest on CDTV support?

There were some questions about this about a year ago I think, anything changed since or are things the same as then, meaning no CDTV support?
Ah, so you are that guy who bought the CDTV.
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Just curious, what's the latest on CDTV support?

There were some questions about this about a year ago I think, anything changed since or are things the same as then, meaning no CDTV support?
Would you think it would be worthwhile to include experimental/limited CDTV/CD32 AmigaOS 3.2 support in the release version?

I mean by limited that a few features would not be present, and that proper installation on those machines will require advanced skills and dedication far beyond the commonly expected for the rest of the machines + no official support.

Without going to specifics, would you agree to an idea/concept such as this?

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Let us know. May be we can do something about CDTV/CD32 on AmigaOS 3.2 as long as you are okay with the above.
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Old 02 March 2021, 13:00   #1032
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Would you think it would be worthwhile to include experimental/limited CDTV/CD32 AmigaOS 3.2 support in the release version?

I mean by limited that a few features would not be present, and that proper installation on those machines will require advanced skills and dedication far beyond the commonly expected for the rest of the machines + no official support.

Without going to specifics, would you agree to an idea/concept such as this?

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Let us know. May be we can do something about CDTV/CD32 on AmigaOS 3.2 as long as you are okay with the above.
Speaking for myself, I would love an experimental CD32 version. I promise not to bother you if I cannot get it working
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would you think it would be worthwhile to include experimental/limited cdtv/cd32 amigaos 3.2 support in the release version?

I mean by limited that a few features would not be present, and that proper installation on those machines will require advanced skills and dedication far beyond the commonly expected for the rest of the machines + no official support.

Without going to specifics, would you agree to an idea/concept such as this?

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let us know. May be we can do something about cdtv/cd32 on amigaos 3.2 as long as you are okay with the above.
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Old 02 March 2021, 13:44   #1034
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Yep, I think it would be a great idea for those who are into maxing out their setups. There are a lot of people doing significant mods with their CD32s these days, so even limited support would be of interest to many of them I'd imagine.
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Old 02 March 2021, 15:25   #1035
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It would be cool to see CDTV/CD32 support in OS 3.2.
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Old 02 March 2021, 20:32   #1036
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Just got 68020 28mhz accelerator for my CDTV and tried OS3.1.4.

One note, those included glow icons are too heavy and OS3.9 icons are more lightweight. So if there could be more icon sets? Basic - Medium - heavy?
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Old 02 March 2021, 21:43   #1037
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CD32 support would be awesome
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Old 02 March 2021, 23:20   #1038
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Yeah, an eventual, even limited support for CDTV/CD32 would be nice
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Old 03 March 2021, 03:06   #1039
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May I ask what it cost you? Is it easy to disable for compatibility?
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May I ask what it cost you? Is it easy to disable for compatibility?
Not much 130€, or something like that. Not possible disable, there is no 68000 cpus.

I just remembered why I removed OS3.1.4 from my other machines. Turn CDTV on and got a "couldn't open workbench library 37.x", restart boot without a startup-sequence and loadwb command, then invalid resident library.

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