Access to 15 and 16 bit RTG modes at the same time.

Ponki1986 · 12 February 2021, 10:26

Hello. At first, I apologize if I am duplicating the topic, but I can't find the answer anywhere. I just wanted to ask how to set up in WinUAE access to 15 and 16 bits of UAEGFX screen modes at the same time? I tried changing the settings in the RTG tab, but I was unable to access both at the same time. I can set 15 or 16 but not both. I will be grateful for your help. Greetings.

DamienD · 12 February 2021, 11:57

I believe you just change this drop-down to "All":

Ponki1986 · 12 February 2021, 13:00

Thanks for the answer. Unfortunately, I also tried this, but it doesn't work for me. I have tried all the other options as well, but have in no way been able to access both modes.

My computer is a Fujitsu Futro S720 with an AMD GX-217GA SOC processor, Windows 7 X86.

Toni Wilen · 12 February 2021, 13:05

Check sys:prefs/Env-Archive/Picasso96/ShowModes . It is normally set by default to not show multiple similar modes. String "All" = no filtering.

Ponki1986 · 12 February 2021, 16:58

For me, this file contains only the word "essential". I changed it to "yes" but that didn't help. Additionally, I ran Picasso96Mode in Prefs, but there is probably no way to change it. Strange because there are no modes at all.

DamienD · 12 February 2021, 17:05

No, no...

As Toni said (which I forgot about), change "Essential" or whatever is currently listed to "All".

Ponki1986 · 12 February 2021, 18:56

Everything works fine now. I needed the 15 Bit mode for the GnGeo emulator and the 16 Bit mode for the DGen. Only in these modes are the colors correct. Thank you very much for help. Thanks to this, I can also run Earth2140 without any problems, because I set all available depths to "All" and the Low-Endian and Big-Endian modes became available. Previously, the game required a patch to run.

Ponki1986 · 12 February 2021, 19:13

I only have one more question. What does * (wildcard) mean next to BGRA, RGBPC values? And the buffer mode is better set to double or triple?

Toni Wilen · 13 February 2021, 15:09

It means default and slightly more optimal (at least if 32-bit mode) because color space is same as native PC mode (BGRA).

EDIT: In windowed mode buffering mode does not matter (it gets switched to double automatically because Windows desktop manager buffers it anyway). In fullscreen triple buffering will remove possible tearing but will also increase latency. Result also depends on GPU settings.

Ponki1986 · 13 February 2021, 20:06

So only these modes should be selected to make emulation as fast as possible?

Toni Wilen · 14 February 2021, 14:27

I guess it depends..

WB probably works slightly faster if 32-bit BGRA but programs that directly write to VRAM (like many games) and support multiple color modes probably are faster if UAE does the conversion (native code doing the conversion) than game doing the conversion (emulated code doing the conversion).

12 February 2021, 10:26	#1
Ponki1986 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Glubczyce / Poland Age: 34 Posts: 57	Access to 15 and 16 bit RTG modes at the same time. Hello. At first, I apologize if I am duplicating the topic, but I can't find the answer anywhere. I just wanted to ask how to set up in WinUAE access to 15 and 16 bits of UAEGFX screen modes at the same time? I tried changing the settings in the RTG tab, but I was unable to access both at the same time. I can set 15 or 16 but not both. I will be grateful for your help. Greetings.

12 February 2021, 17:05	#6
DamienD disengaged Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 44 Posts: 20,173	No, no... As Toni said (which I forgot about), change "Essential" or whatever is currently listed to "All". Last edited by DamienD; 12 February 2021 at 17:10.

13 February 2021, 15:09	#9
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 46 Posts: 24,699	It means default and slightly more optimal (at least if 32-bit mode) because color space is same as native PC mode (BGRA). EDIT: In windowed mode buffering mode does not matter (it gets switched to double automatically because Windows desktop manager buffers it anyway). In fullscreen triple buffering will remove possible tearing but will also increase latency. Result also depends on GPU settings. Last edited by Toni Wilen; 13 February 2021 at 16:18.

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12 February 2021, 11:57	#2
DamienD disengaged Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 44 Posts: 20,173	I believe you just change this drop-down to "All":

12 February 2021, 13:00	#3
Ponki1986 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Glubczyce / Poland Age: 34 Posts: 57	Thanks for the answer. Unfortunately, I also tried this, but it doesn't work for me. I have tried all the other options as well, but have in no way been able to access both modes. My computer is a Fujitsu Futro S720 with an AMD GX-217GA SOC processor, Windows 7 X86.

12 February 2021, 13:05	#4
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 46 Posts: 24,699	Check sys:prefs/Env-Archive/Picasso96/ShowModes . It is normally set by default to not show multiple similar modes. String "All" = no filtering.

12 February 2021, 16:58	#5
Ponki1986 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Glubczyce / Poland Age: 34 Posts: 57	For me, this file contains only the word "essential". I changed it to "yes" but that didn't help. Additionally, I ran Picasso96Mode in Prefs, but there is probably no way to change it. Strange because there are no modes at all.

12 February 2021, 18:56	#7
Ponki1986 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Glubczyce / Poland Age: 34 Posts: 57	Everything works fine now. I needed the 15 Bit mode for the GnGeo emulator and the 16 Bit mode for the DGen. Only in these modes are the colors correct. Thank you very much for help. Thanks to this, I can also run Earth2140 without any problems, because I set all available depths to "All" and the Low-Endian and Big-Endian modes became available. Previously, the game required a patch to run.

12 February 2021, 19:13	#8
Ponki1986 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Glubczyce / Poland Age: 34 Posts: 57	I only have one more question. What does * (wildcard) mean next to BGRA, RGBPC values? And the buffer mode is better set to double or triple?

13 February 2021, 20:06	#10
Ponki1986 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Glubczyce / Poland Age: 34 Posts: 57	So only these modes should be selected to make emulation as fast as possible?

14 February 2021, 14:27	#11
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 46 Posts: 24,699	I guess it depends.. WB probably works slightly faster if 32-bit BGRA but programs that directly write to VRAM (like many games) and support multiple color modes probably are faster if UAE does the conversion (native code doing the conversion) than game doing the conversion (emulated code doing the conversion).

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