A1200 Delfina flipper setup questions

NovaCoder · 08 June 2011, 01:58

Hiya,

Just got my new Delfina Flipper Ed. installed for the first time in my 1200 and have a few questions.

What's the deal with the native (chipset) audio, I know that the Delfina installer put something in my startup sequence which I assume is the mixer program but how does it work?

Do you still have to physically plug the native outputs into the inputs on the Delfina (as I've seen Phipscube do so well

)?

I gave it a quick try last night without plugging in my native output on a WHDLOAD game and heard nothing.

Thanx

Tumo007 · 08 June 2011, 02:31

Yep you need to plug the native audio to the Delfina or use an external mixer, that way you wont need to load the Delfina.library to hear the native output (pass-truth is off at power on).

NovaCoder · 08 June 2011, 02:41

Hiya,

Thanks so to be clear, without plugging in the native audio to the Delfina there is no way it's going to work?

BTW: I've just uploaded the latest Delfina library to the Zone

Retrofan · 08 June 2011, 15:36

I'm interested in an answer too...

amigoun · 08 June 2011, 16:56

No way.

mfilos · 08 June 2011, 17:53

I haven't tried yet but maybe delfina.library is romable and could work on a custom Kickstart. Will have to test it out @ some point

Retrofan · 21 December 2011, 01:03

I've got the Delfina playing Songplayer (aiff and mp3). I installed in libs the Delfina library version 4.16, as the 4.17 was crashing the A1200. To make it work with Songplayer I hadn't to make anything, just install it (I had installed already the files for AHI and Delfina).
I've tried to use Amplifier, but I don't know how to configure it or how to select the Delfina engine there. Does anybody know?

Apart of that, I've got a pitched sound when I use the Delfina, I don't know if perhaps I should isolate it somehow.
The instruction guide says that "To avoid EMC interference, only operate your computer when it is fully assembled. Operating a Delfina sound board with the computer case opened may cause problems in radio programme receival. To minimize radio noise emissions, assemble the computer cover with a complete metal shield surrounding Delfina sound board."
And "Find a safe place inside your Amiga for the card. It is not physically mounted in a special spot, so you have to take care of isolation against metal parts inside of your computer. Use a piece of cardboard to cover the bottom of the board"
http://www.jschoenfeld.com/products/...ina_manual.pdf

I've got it on the kickstarts...

ancalimon · 21 December 2011, 02:18

I used a patched delfina.library with my old Delfina Lite sound card. All the other libraries were crashing my A4000T.

For playing mp3's using Delfinas processor try this with AmigaAmp or Amplifier:

http://aminet.net/package/mus/play/dmdev

http://aminet.net/package/mus/play/mhimdev

NovaCoder · 21 December 2011, 02:55

I got rid of my delfina flipper in the end....way more trouble than it was worth (I'm sad to say).

Retrofan · 21 December 2011, 10:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by NovaCoder

I got rid of my delfina flipper in the end....way more trouble than it was worth (I'm sad to say).

I was getting rid, but if you would have use SongPlayer, I'm sure it would had worked. Anyway, if it's to play in that A1200, the best player I know for aiff is Songplayer, and with SongFace appearance (no Delfina needed).

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_w...wItcanLook.jpg

Graham Humphrey · 21 December 2011, 11:11

Retrofan - just a friendly nudge, can you please be a little careful regarding the images you post as I've had a couple of people point out it's making browsing EAB a little difficult for them while they're at work. Cheers

Retrofan · 21 December 2011, 13:57

Sorry, it's the only image of songface you can find. Now with a link.

Well, now I've got no pitched sound at all with Songplayer. Not sure what it was, but perfect then. I have to try anyway with the files of ancalimon, although not sure how to use them.

mfilos · 21 December 2011, 13:59

Delfina works just fine with Amplifier both as a sound card and also as an hardware MPEG decoder.
Never bothered with any other player since Amplifier worked as intended.
Driver that I used was the latest 4.17b392 that was working without issues in my A4000 mounted via clockport on a Deneb USB adapter.

As for how to make it work with Amplifier, I'll try and mount my old backup partition and tell you the settings.

Retrofan · 21 December 2011, 14:09

Thanks mfilos, because in Audio I/O I've got 3 options, Aiff/Maud Player 1.3, Wav Player 1.3 and MPEG audio player 1.6. I was trying with this last, but no sound, and configuring Layer III to hardware was rebooting the Amiga.

EDIT: No need, thanks mfilos...it works incredibly right (even better than songplayer I think) with the first link of ancalimon, delfinampeg.device, and the instructions are clear and easy.

A little off topic, but how could I play an mp3 file from booting easily?

ancalimon · 21 December 2011, 16:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retrofan

Thanks mfilos, because in Audio I/O I've got 3 options, Aiff/Maud Player 1.3, Wav Player 1.3 and MPEG audio player 1.6. I was trying with this last, but no sound, and configuring Layer III to hardware was rebooting the Amiga.

EDIT: No need, thanks mfilos...it works incredibly right (even better than songplayer I think) with the first link of ancalimon, delfinampeg.device, and the instructions are clear and easy.

A little off topic, but how could I play an mp3 file from booting easily?

http://aminet.net/package/mus/play/DelfMPEG

This is what I used.

Retrofan · 21 December 2011, 16:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by ancalimon

http://aminet.net/package/mus/play/DelfMPEG

This is what I used.

Thanks. I'll try it. Now posting with the Amiga OS39/AfA_OS

musojon74 · 21 December 2011, 20:39

Glad you got it sorted. Is it the clockport delfina or the flipper you have? (I see the clockport one is available and as long as that supports soundstudio, mp3 playback in hardware etc that's ok).

EDIT sorry read title. Is the flipper the same as the clockport one on offer at Individual computers?

Retrofan · 22 December 2011, 00:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by musojon74

Glad you got it sorted. Is it the clockport delfina or the flipper you have? (I see the clockport one is available and as long as that supports soundstudio, mp3 playback in hardware etc that's ok).

EDIT sorry read title. Is the flipper the same as the clockport one on offer at Individual computers?

Mine is the one that IC sells (Vesalia in this case), the same than Novacoder, as he bought it after I did.

http://www.vesalia.de/e_delfina.htm. You can ask to Amigakit too, but I don't find it there.

08 June 2011, 01:58	#1
NovaCoder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Melbourne/Australia Posts: 4,400	A1200 Delfina flipper setup questions Hiya, Just got my new Delfina Flipper Ed. installed for the first time in my 1200 and have a few questions. What's the deal with the native (chipset) audio, I know that the Delfina installer put something in my startup sequence which I assume is the mixer program but how does it work? Do you still have to physically plug the native outputs into the inputs on the Delfina (as I've seen Phipscube do so well )? I gave it a quick try last night without plugging in my native output on a WHDLOAD game and heard nothing. Thanx

08 June 2011, 02:41	#3
NovaCoder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Melbourne/Australia Posts: 4,400	Hiya, Thanks so to be clear, without plugging in the native audio to the Delfina there is no way it's going to work? BTW: I've just uploaded the latest Delfina library to the Zone Last edited by TCD; 08 June 2011 at 02:59. Reason: Back-to-back posts merged. Use the edit function.

21 December 2011, 01:03	#7
Retrofan Ruler of the Universe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lanzarote/Spain Posts: 6,185	I've got the Delfina playing Songplayer (aiff and mp3). I installed in libs the Delfina library version 4.16, as the 4.17 was crashing the A1200. To make it work with Songplayer I hadn't to make anything, just install it (I had installed already the files for AHI and Delfina). I've tried to use Amplifier, but I don't know how to configure it or how to select the Delfina engine there. Does anybody know? Apart of that, I've got a pitched sound when I use the Delfina, I don't know if perhaps I should isolate it somehow. The instruction guide says that "To avoid EMC interference, only operate your computer when it is fully assembled. Operating a Delfina sound board with the computer case opened may cause problems in radio programme receival. To minimize radio noise emissions, assemble the computer cover with a complete metal shield surrounding Delfina sound board." And "Find a safe place inside your Amiga for the card. It is not physically mounted in a special spot, so you have to take care of isolation against metal parts inside of your computer. Use a piece of cardboard to cover the bottom of the board" http://www.jschoenfeld.com/products/...ina_manual.pdf I've got it on the kickstarts... Last edited by Retrofan; 21 December 2011 at 01:26.

21 December 2011, 14:09	#14
Retrofan Ruler of the Universe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lanzarote/Spain Posts: 6,185	Thanks mfilos, because in Audio I/O I've got 3 options, Aiff/Maud Player 1.3, Wav Player 1.3 and MPEG audio player 1.6. I was trying with this last, but no sound, and configuring Layer III to hardware was rebooting the Amiga. EDIT: No need, thanks mfilos...it works incredibly right (even better than songplayer I think) with the first link of ancalimon, delfinampeg.device, and the instructions are clear and easy. A little off topic, but how could I play an mp3 file from booting easily? Last edited by Retrofan; 21 December 2011 at 14:32.

21 December 2011, 20:39	#17
musojon74 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The World Age: 50 Posts: 476	Glad you got it sorted. Is it the clockport delfina or the flipper you have? (I see the clockport one is available and as long as that supports soundstudio, mp3 playback in hardware etc that's ok). EDIT sorry read title. Is the flipper the same as the clockport one on offer at Individual computers? Last edited by musojon74; 21 December 2011 at 20:40. Reason: i'm so lame and don't read thread titles

08 June 2011, 02:31	#2
Tumo007 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Montreal, CANADA Posts: 56	Yep you need to plug the native audio to the Delfina or use an external mixer, that way you wont need to load the Delfina.library to hear the native output (pass-truth is off at power on).

08 June 2011, 15:36	#4
Retrofan Ruler of the Universe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lanzarote/Spain Posts: 6,185	I'm interested in an answer too...

08 June 2011, 16:56	#5
amigoun Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Location: Czech Rep Posts: 599	No way.

08 June 2011, 17:53	#6
mfilos Paranoid Amigoid Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Athens/Greece Age: 45 Posts: 1,978	I haven't tried yet but maybe delfina.library is romable and could work on a custom Kickstart. Will have to test it out @ some point

21 December 2011, 02:18	#8
ancalimon Supernormal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Istanbul / Turkey Age: 43 Posts: 1,410	I used a patched delfina.library with my old Delfina Lite sound card. All the other libraries were crashing my A4000T. For playing mp3's using Delfinas processor try this with AmigaAmp or Amplifier: http://aminet.net/package/mus/play/dmdev http://aminet.net/package/mus/play/mhimdev

21 December 2011, 02:55	#9
NovaCoder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Melbourne/Australia Posts: 4,400	I got rid of my delfina flipper in the end....way more trouble than it was worth (I'm sad to say).

21 December 2011, 11:11	#11
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	Retrofan - just a friendly nudge, can you please be a little careful regarding the images you post as I've had a couple of people point out it's making browsing EAB a little difficult for them while they're at work. Cheers

21 December 2011, 13:57	#12
Retrofan Ruler of the Universe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lanzarote/Spain Posts: 6,185	Sorry, it's the only image of songface you can find. Now with a link. Well, now I've got no pitched sound at all with Songplayer. Not sure what it was, but perfect then. I have to try anyway with the files of ancalimon, although not sure how to use them.

21 December 2011, 13:59	#13
mfilos Paranoid Amigoid Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Athens/Greece Age: 45 Posts: 1,978	Delfina works just fine with Amplifier both as a sound card and also as an hardware MPEG decoder. Never bothered with any other player since Amplifier worked as intended. Driver that I used was the latest 4.17b392 that was working without issues in my A4000 mounted via clockport on a Deneb USB adapter. As for how to make it work with Amplifier, I'll try and mount my old backup partition and tell you the settings.

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