using the amiga as a hardware midi sampler....

demether · 19 July 2023, 13:36

Hi,

Which software would you use for this purpose ? I immediatly think about octamed sound studio.

Aulapatchuc · 19 July 2023, 13:38

I would use:

Quote:

Originally Posted by demether

octamed sound studio.

Paulee_Alex_Bow · 19 July 2023, 18:25

That of course would work, but I believe AMAS would be better as it allows you to set up split points. Haven’t tried it unfortunately. There’s also a program called “MIDI IN” and Sound Oasis might also work.

demether · 19 July 2023, 20:19

thank you, I don't know AMAS, I'll take a look.

edit : does it depand on its own hardware, or is it compatible with my generic (or trilogic) midi interface and technosound sampler (or trilogic sampler) ?

Karlos · 19 July 2023, 20:22

If you have an accelerated machine spare, don't forget MidiIn, I've used that controlled by OctaMED over a nullmodem. It works very nicely.

demether · 19 July 2023, 20:36

Thanks !

I'm currently building an amiga 600 (2mb) for a musician friend, including midi interface and sampling interface, with a pcmcia cf drive and a 4gb 3.1 harddrive. Knowing a bit his sound studio setup, he will mostly use the amiga as a lofi sampler and soft synth.

AMAS seems very, very interesting. But I cannot find it for now.

Personaly I'm using a "maxed" 1200 amiga as my main computer in my home studio.

Paulee_Alex_Bow · 19 July 2023, 21:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by demether

Thanks !

I'm currently building an amiga 600 (2mb) for a musician friend, including midi interface and sampling interface, with a pcmcia cf drive and a 4gb 3.1 harddrive. Knowing a bit his sound studio setup, he will mostly use the amiga as a lofi sampler and soft synth.

AMAS seems very, very interesting. But I cannot find it for now.

Personaly I'm using a "maxed" 1200 amiga as my main computer in my home studio.

Thing is, AMAS seems just like a regular midi interface and sampler wedged in one box, with even separate parallel and serial cables coming off the one box.

So I think the software should work with a regular separate sampler and midi interface. I’ll have to test it, myself. Grandis nu has two versions:

http://ftp2.grandis.nu/turransearch/...0&httplinks=on

Your musician friend is very lucky that you’re setting up an Amiga for him. Please send him to my latest video on Amiga soft synths for inspiration

[ Show youtube player ]

demether · 19 July 2023, 21:41

I already sent him your video ! He's very enthusiast about this.

He's one of my best friends from the last 25years. I kept contact with him, and we share the same love for music. He sent me a therapSID (a SID based synth) and a controller, I 'll give him my amiga 600 (I'm currently willing to buy a 500, maxed out too).

I'll keep you informed about my tests on AMAS. the difficult part is that the 600 have a very bad disk drive...I hope I'll be able to install it. Or maybe I'll try to find a software to mount adf on 68000... On my 1200 3.2, no problem, but on the 3.1 600, it may be difficult.

Paulee_Alex_Bow · 19 July 2023, 21:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by demether

I already sent him your video ! He's very enthusiast about this.

He's one of my best friends from the last 25years. I kept contact with him, and we share the same love for music. He sent me a therapSID (a SID based synth) and a controller, I 'll give him my amiga 600 (I'm currently willing to buy a 500, maxed out too).

I'll keep you informed about my tests on AMAS. the difficult part is that the 600 have a very bad disk drive...I hope I'll be able to install it. Or maybe I'll try to find a software to mount adf on 68000... On my 1200 3.2, no problem, but on the 3.1 600, it may be difficult.

Can you not install it onto the CF hard disk using winuae?

demether · 19 July 2023, 21:57

I don't have windows, and I don't know much about emulation, I'm afraid !

Paulee_Alex_Bow · 19 July 2023, 23:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by demether

I don't have windows, and I don't know much about emulation, I'm afraid !

Well the idea is that whatever your system, you can use a USB cf card
reader and the emulator will read that like it’s a real Amiga system…you can copy over files quite easily, or clone/backup your CF card image for instance.

demether · 20 July 2023, 13:04

I'll try the old fashioned way, if it doesn't work I'll try this. Thank you !

musojon74 · 22 August 2023, 09:38

I had a tracker back in the day where you loaded a sample once and it made a few up sampled copies to get around the limited range problem. I used that mostly when I just wanted to use my Amiga as a sampler. I’ll try and find it.

GavinG · 27 August 2023, 19:19

SoundOasis seems the most fully functional for sample midi playback because it has some ADSR envelopes (and a filter envelope), while things like Octamed just give you the sample as flat playback, albeit with loop points. However, you can't load .iff audio files into it, it uses the Ensoniq Mirage sample format. I'm going to check AMAS next to see, will report back. Suprised this doesn't exist more commonly as a thing in the 80s/90s, like a poor man's Akai. If anyone knows of a MIDI sample player with envelopes, I'd love to knwo about it.

Okay, possibly:
MidiIn - but I cannot find either version of it as an .adf for a real Amiga.
https://github.com/royaltm/Amiga-midiIn

ElectroBlaster · 27 August 2023, 21:01

Thinking about having a go with this!

I have a thing for collecting amiga samplers and just bought this:

https://bigbookofamigahardware.com/b...t.aspx?id=1113

I have an Amas stashed away somewhere so will see if I can find it.

19 July 2023, 13:36	#1
demether Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: france Posts: 179	using the amiga as a hardware midi sampler.... Hi, Which software would you use for this purpose ? I immediatly think about octamed sound studio.

22 August 2023, 09:38	#13
musojon74 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The World Age: 50 Posts: 476	I had a tracker back in the day where you loaded a sample once and it made a few up sampled copies to get around the limited range problem. I used that mostly when I just wanted to use my Amiga as a sampler. I’ll try and find it. Last edited by musojon74; 22 August 2023 at 09:38. Reason: Typo autocorrect

27 August 2023, 19:19	#14
GavinG Registered User Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: London Posts: 13	SoundOasis seems the most fully functional for sample midi playback because it has some ADSR envelopes (and a filter envelope), while things like Octamed just give you the sample as flat playback, albeit with loop points. However, you can't load .iff audio files into it, it uses the Ensoniq Mirage sample format. I'm going to check AMAS next to see, will report back. Suprised this doesn't exist more commonly as a thing in the 80s/90s, like a poor man's Akai. If anyone knows of a MIDI sample player with envelopes, I'd love to knwo about it. Okay, possibly: MidiIn - but I cannot find either version of it as an .adf for a real Amiga. https://github.com/royaltm/Amiga-midiIn Last edited by GavinG; 27 August 2023 at 19:33.

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19 July 2023, 18:25	#3
Paulee_Alex_Bow Registered User Join Date: Mar 2022 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 149	That of course would work, but I believe AMAS would be better as it allows you to set up split points. Haven’t tried it unfortunately. There’s also a program called “MIDI IN” and Sound Oasis might also work.

19 July 2023, 20:19	#4
demether Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: france Posts: 179	thank you, I don't know AMAS, I'll take a look. edit : does it depand on its own hardware, or is it compatible with my generic (or trilogic) midi interface and technosound sampler (or trilogic sampler) ?

19 July 2023, 20:22	#5
Karlos Alien Bleed Join Date: Aug 2022 Location: UK Posts: 4,165	If you have an accelerated machine spare, don't forget MidiIn, I've used that controlled by OctaMED over a nullmodem. It works very nicely.

19 July 2023, 20:36	#6
demether Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: france Posts: 179	Thanks ! I'm currently building an amiga 600 (2mb) for a musician friend, including midi interface and sampling interface, with a pcmcia cf drive and a 4gb 3.1 harddrive. Knowing a bit his sound studio setup, he will mostly use the amiga as a lofi sampler and soft synth. AMAS seems very, very interesting. But I cannot find it for now. Personaly I'm using a "maxed" 1200 amiga as my main computer in my home studio.

19 July 2023, 21:41	#8
demether Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: france Posts: 179	I already sent him your video ! He's very enthusiast about this. He's one of my best friends from the last 25years. I kept contact with him, and we share the same love for music. He sent me a therapSID (a SID based synth) and a controller, I 'll give him my amiga 600 (I'm currently willing to buy a 500, maxed out too). I'll keep you informed about my tests on AMAS. the difficult part is that the 600 have a very bad disk drive...I hope I'll be able to install it. Or maybe I'll try to find a software to mount adf on 68000... On my 1200 3.2, no problem, but on the 3.1 600, it may be difficult.

19 July 2023, 21:57	#10
demether Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: france Posts: 179	I don't have windows, and I don't know much about emulation, I'm afraid !

20 July 2023, 13:04	#12
demether Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: france Posts: 179	I'll try the old fashioned way, if it doesn't work I'll try this. Thank you !

27 August 2023, 21:01	#15
ElectroBlaster Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Exeter, Devon, UK Age: 49 Posts: 1,706	Thinking about having a go with this! I have a thing for collecting amiga samplers and just bought this: https://bigbookofamigahardware.com/b...t.aspx?id=1113 I have an Amas stashed away somewhere so will see if I can find it.

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