Is single core Atom enough to emu PPC?

lukassid · 31 January 2015, 11:31

I'm thinking of builing dedicated micro PC for WinUAE in A600 case. I found this Intel Nuc board with E3815, 8GB ram and Intel HD Graphics @400Mhz.
But I wonder if that enough for 060 and PPC emulation?
Or do I need dual core Celeron or maybe i3 board?
many thanks

huepper · 31 January 2015, 12:30

A strong dualcore is recommended for emulate an 060+PPC.

thomas · 31 January 2015, 12:39

Dual core is required. Speed is recommended. The faster the better.

lukassid · 31 January 2015, 12:47

Thanks guys. Gonna save up for good i3/i5 mini board.

Edit. Trouble is i3/i5 boards are expensive and needs more space and power.
I found that integrated Quad Core celeron board, I wonder how this will perform?
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/msi-j...1%29-usb3-gbe-

ccapublic · 31 January 2015, 22:38

There are plenty of bay trail quad core atoms with "win 8.1 with bing" around for roughly $100 (guleek i8, pipo x7,...). Clocks range from 1.33 to 2.16 GHz. Far enough for 68k/os3x emu but not sure it would be fast enough for ppc... I should try on my guleek i8 vs my dell (core i7)...

rhester72 · 01 February 2015, 04:39

Careful - in my experience, for whatever reason (even though I _think_ it's only doing map-the-screen-onto-a-plane with optional FX streams), 3D performance is surprisingly a major factor. My Pentium N3530 is enough to plow through the vast majority of MAME titles using Direct3D as a draw surface, but seems to be inadequate to even keep Workbench going at 60fps without major sound lag (for which I have very little rational explanation). DirectDraw works better, but not perfect, and (for instance) the end of the Odyssey demo (basic A500 configuration, run from floppy) with scrolling credits falls behind on simply drawing frames, regardless of how high I set frameskip.

I verified that the correct Direct3D, et al downloaded and installed (running Windows 8.1 64-bit), and the logs look clean, it's just pitifully slow, unlike any other emulator I've tried (it's a Dell Inspiron 11 3000 - very nice GP laptop/tablet otherwise!).

tl;dr there may be more to adequate basic WinUAE performance (completely ignoring PPC, etc.) than just the processor.

Rodney

31 January 2015, 11:31	#1
lukassid Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Surrey Posts: 390	Is single core Atom enough to emu PPC? I'm thinking of builing dedicated micro PC for WinUAE in A600 case. I found this Intel Nuc board with E3815, 8GB ram and Intel HD Graphics @400Mhz. But I wonder if that enough for 060 and PPC emulation? Or do I need dual core Celeron or maybe i3 board? many thanks

31 January 2015, 12:47	#4
lukassid Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Surrey Posts: 390	Thanks guys. Gonna save up for good i3/i5 mini board. Edit. Trouble is i3/i5 boards are expensive and needs more space and power. I found that integrated Quad Core celeron board, I wonder how this will perform? http://www.scan.co.uk/products/msi-j...1%29-usb3-gbe- Last edited by lukassid; 31 January 2015 at 14:14.

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31 January 2015, 12:30	#2
huepper Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: GDR Age: 49 Posts: 249	A strong dualcore is recommended for emulate an 060+PPC.

31 January 2015, 12:39	#3
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 6,985	Dual core is required. Speed is recommended. The faster the better.

31 January 2015, 22:38	#5
ccapublic Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: France Posts: 60	There are plenty of bay trail quad core atoms with "win 8.1 with bing" around for roughly $100 (guleek i8, pipo x7,...). Clocks range from 1.33 to 2.16 GHz. Far enough for 68k/os3x emu but not sure it would be fast enough for ppc... I should try on my guleek i8 vs my dell (core i7)...

01 February 2015, 04:39	#6
rhester72 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: New York / USA Posts: 360	Careful - in my experience, for whatever reason (even though I _think_ it's only doing map-the-screen-onto-a-plane with optional FX streams), 3D performance is surprisingly a major factor. My Pentium N3530 is enough to plow through the vast majority of MAME titles using Direct3D as a draw surface, but seems to be inadequate to even keep Workbench going at 60fps without major sound lag (for which I have very little rational explanation). DirectDraw works better, but not perfect, and (for instance) the end of the Odyssey demo (basic A500 configuration, run from floppy) with scrolling credits falls behind on simply drawing frames, regardless of how high I set frameskip. I verified that the correct Direct3D, et al downloaded and installed (running Windows 8.1 64-bit), and the logs look clean, it's just pitifully slow, unlike any other emulator I've tried (it's a Dell Inspiron 11 3000 - very nice GP laptop/tablet otherwise!). tl;dr there may be more to adequate basic WinUAE performance (completely ignoring PPC, etc.) than just the processor. Rodney

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