The First Person Shooter frame rate tolerance poll...

DDNI · 12 November 2010, 21:15

Inspired by the recent Doom discussions...

killergorilla · 12 November 2010, 21:21

I have no idea.

TCD · 12 November 2010, 21:22

Around 25-30 I'd say. Below that I can't really 'enjoy' playing it.

Retro-Nerd · 12 November 2010, 21:30

Yep, 30 FPS is good enough to play these kind of games.

Predseda · 12 November 2010, 21:32

There should be some examples. How many FTP has Ruff n Tumble?

Retro-Nerd · 12 November 2010, 21:32

It's about 3D games like Doom, not 2D games.

fitzsteve · 12 November 2010, 21:39

It really depends on the game and system and what kind of play.

Doom on an A1200 is fine at 10-12 fps but try playing Call of Duty 5/6 online on a PC at 10fps you'll get very mad very quick! 60+ is good in that case and to enjoy modern fps on PC in single player its 30fps +

killergorilla · 12 November 2010, 21:49

I'd probably say 25fps is passable for a FPS.

zipper · 12 November 2010, 22:10

In Amiga land about 15 fps is tolerable. But Shogo for example is a little nicer @300 fps on my lappie...

OK, it's just a figure on my max 75 Hz screen...

Peter · 12 November 2010, 22:15

I would like to discover what "Gloom" runs at - I'm sure it isn't many FPS but it is still a very playable real Amiga game.

fitzsteve · 12 November 2010, 22:29

@peter it seems very similar to Doom. I would guess 10-15fps on 030 20+on 040 and 30+ on 060

Fabie · 13 November 2010, 02:36

ok I will vote
but please note that I changed the opinion around the time
in the past I tolerated low fps
I remember I played Alien breed 3d2 until almost the end on the A1200 + apollo 1260/50 at 13-15 fps
also I almost finished the game genetic species on idem config at 20-22fps
but now I'm exquisite and I tolerate only around 45-50

Zetr0 · 13 November 2010, 02:40

some games seem to tolerate slower frame-rates better than others.

however as a general rule of thum anything less than 20 frames is painfull and in a lot of ways ceases to be a game as such.

there are a few exceptions to this rule - as such I cannot think of any - perhaps Iron Helix on the MegaCD (although thats kinda on rails)

khph_re · 14 November 2010, 14:04

Needs to be constant as well. It's fluctuations in framerate that can be a killer. I guess it depends on the pace of the game as well.

gimbal · 15 November 2010, 09:58

This is on Amiga only right?

On PC its just 60fps, no exceptions. In frantic gunfights you (or at least I) need a silky smooth screen update to be able to move from target to target in a split second and still hit something.

cosmicfrog · 15 November 2010, 10:01

no wonder I kept geting killed last year in UT then hehehehhehehe

gimbal · 15 November 2010, 10:05

I hope you're talking about UT3. If your computer cannot even render UT classic at 60fps, you are a serious cheap bastard.

PowerPie5000 · 15 November 2010, 12:46

I like my games to run at least 30fps to enjoy them... and even higher with frantic online gaming!

fitzsteve · 15 November 2010, 12:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by PowerPie5000

I like my games to run at least 30fps to enjoy them... and even higher with frantic online gaming!

I really enjoy playing Call of Duty 4/5 online now, with my new Graphics Card (I say new its about a year old - GTX 260) I hit over 150fps! I really wish I had that back in the day when these games first came out! My old 8800GTS was ok for about 60fps so not all bad, I could still own peeps

cosmicfrog · 15 November 2010, 13:00

yep gimbal I sure was kidding, as they say a bad player blames his pc or something like that

View Poll Results: What frame rate will you tolerate in a great game before you say "game over"?
Above 100fps	0	0%
90	0	0%
80	0	0%
70	1	1.37%
60	5	6.85%
50fps	3	4.11%
40	3	4.11%
30	28	38.36%
20	23	31.51%
10	6	8.22%
Below 5fps	4	5.48%
Voters: 73. You may not vote on this poll

12 November 2010, 21:15	#1
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12 November 2010, 21:21	#2
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	I have no idea.

12 November 2010, 21:22	#3
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,598	Around 25-30 I'd say. Below that I can't really 'enjoy' playing it.

12 November 2010, 21:30	#4
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,442	Yep, 30 FPS is good enough to play these kind of games.

12 November 2010, 21:32	#5
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,544	There should be some examples. How many FTP has Ruff n Tumble?

12 November 2010, 21:39	#7
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	It really depends on the game and system and what kind of play. Doom on an A1200 is fine at 10-12 fps but try playing Call of Duty 5/6 online on a PC at 10fps you'll get very mad very quick! 60+ is good in that case and to enjoy modern fps on PC in single player its 30fps +

12 November 2010, 21:49	#8
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	I'd probably say 25fps is passable for a FPS.

12 November 2010, 22:10	#9
zipper Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: finland Posts: 1,838	In Amiga land about 15 fps is tolerable. But Shogo for example is a little nicer @300 fps on my lappie... OK, it's just a figure on my max 75 Hz screen...

12 November 2010, 22:15	#10
Peter Still an Amiga user Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kent Age: 55 Posts: 2,715	I would like to discover what "Gloom" runs at - I'm sure it isn't many FPS but it is still a very playable real Amiga game.

12 November 2010, 22:29	#11
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	@peter it seems very similar to Doom. I would guess 10-15fps on 030 20+on 040 and 30+ on 060

13 November 2010, 02:36	#12
Fabie Banned Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: France Posts: 478	ok I will vote but please note that I changed the opinion around the time in the past I tolerated low fps I remember I played Alien breed 3d2 until almost the end on the A1200 + apollo 1260/50 at 13-15 fps also I almost finished the game genetic species on idem config at 20-22fps but now I'm exquisite and I tolerate only around 45-50

13 November 2010, 02:40	#13
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	some games seem to tolerate slower frame-rates better than others. however as a general rule of thum anything less than 20 frames is painfull and in a lot of ways ceases to be a game as such. there are a few exceptions to this rule - as such I cannot think of any - perhaps Iron Helix on the MegaCD (although thats kinda on rails)

14 November 2010, 14:04	#14
khph_re Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Northampton/UK Posts: 525	Needs to be constant as well. It's fluctuations in framerate that can be a killer. I guess it depends on the pace of the game as well.

15 November 2010, 09:58	#15
gimbal cheeky scoundrel Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Spijkenisse/Netherlands Age: 42 Posts: 6,917	This is on Amiga only right? On PC its just 60fps, no exceptions. In frantic gunfights you (or at least I) need a silky smooth screen update to be able to move from target to target in a split second and still hit something.

15 November 2010, 10:01	#16
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 56 Posts: 3,557	no wonder I kept geting killed last year in UT then hehehehhehehe

15 November 2010, 10:05	#17
gimbal cheeky scoundrel Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Spijkenisse/Netherlands Age: 42 Posts: 6,917	I hope you're talking about UT3. If your computer cannot even render UT classic at 60fps, you are a serious cheap bastard.

15 November 2010, 12:46	#18
PowerPie5000 Miggy Ate My Hamster! Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 1,566	I like my games to run at least 30fps to enjoy them... and even higher with frantic online gaming!

15 November 2010, 13:00	#20
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 56 Posts: 3,557	yep gimbal I sure was kidding, as they say a bad player blames his pc or something like that

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