Kickstart Editor updates, extra features and fixes!

Mikeywikey · 02 March 2023, 19:02

Did a bunch of tidyups and fixes to the Kickstart editor and celebrated by moving it to a v1.00 release and a new website with loads of Kickstart/ROM history and technical info.

Major feature update, “analyserom” now uses component hash files to identify known components
Standard “Recipes and Tests” added, to check Cap works and to be used as template examples
Quiet a few small (unmentioned) fixes and a couple of important ones like CD32 ROM writing fixed, broken in last release
Quite a lot of tidying hash files and adding ROM hashes, after fixing how unordered relocs are handled

Bugfixes
Patcher
Patching components that don’t have relocs no longer coredumps
findopcode was broken since previous missassembler updates (didn’t check!), also tweaked to do more exhaustive searches (every two bytes)

Saving CD32 ROMs
Saving a CD32 formatted ROM works again now, I had inadvertently reordered the interleaving process which made them unusable, this is now documented on the website!

CapCLI “add”
Adding components without relocs no longer risks null pointer access (tried to access a null list)
Adding components with unordered relocs could lead to inconsistent hashes (auto sorts them now)
Adding unallocated space works properly now (adds as a component)

Hash Files
Previously missed 1.x 2.x 3.x components added
Definition fixed for 0xbc0ec13f.Kickstart v1.4 beta 3 r36.16 (1990-03)(Commodore)(A3000)[!] (and the two bad hashes removed, thanks to Greg Donner)
Defintion added for 0x17d949e3.0x17d949e3.Kickstart 1.4 r36.15 Beta 4
Definitions for early KS2 v36/v37 added
Amiga Forever definitions added
Hyperion ROMs and component hashes fixed when components has unordered relocs
Superkick hashes (floppy and file) now properly analysed

Enhancements
CapCLI
analyserom – Significant update, now uses hash files (not just loaded components) for more complete component identification, you no longer have to have extracted files or known ROMs to identify known components, and you don’t have to load them
Added * to roms command output to show current rom
adfsavezip – lets you save a loaded ADF file as a zip file
rombase – The rombase command now patches already added libraries to the new address, you can relocate an entire ROM to a new ROMBASE this way.
It doesn’t currently update kickity-split, extended ROMHEADER or SKSize, and you need to checksum the ROM before use.

Missassembler
Default debug level reduced when adding comments/labels to cut down on noise
Added misshints.ini (see Features->Missassembler for more info)

CapGUI
Lots of icon and colour tidy ups (and a nasty green replaced with a nice purple)
“Save ADF to Zip” added to the ADF: options once an ADF is loaded

Website
All new website created, all the old content copied, plus a few new pages added, HowTo, ROM list (big update), Kickstart formats, features

http://capitoline.twocatsblack.com/

coldacid · 03 March 2023, 02:00

You should check that download, it's missing the executables (it has description files instead).

Mikeywikey · 03 March 2023, 09:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by coldacid

You should check that download, it's missing the executables (it has description files instead).

Hmm... not sure what you're seeing there, but the zip download seems fine, I download, install and check (run the automated tests) it on Win/Mac/Linux VMs automatically.

The Windows GUI is Capitoline.exe
The cli commands are capcli.exe, capcli.MacOS and capcli.Linux
The CRC32 commands all look OK too

coldacid · 03 March 2023, 14:12

That's not the same download that I got.

Mikeywikey · 03 March 2023, 22:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by coldacid

That's not the same download that I got.

That’s super weird in that case, there’s only one download, nothing else is on the site, can you pm me the link you used or the download you got?

coldacid · 04 March 2023, 00:52

I just re-downloaded it and it looks like somehow I got popped into the hashes subdir and extracted that. Oops. All's well.

Mikeywikey · 04 March 2023, 01:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by coldacid

I just re-downloaded it and it looks like somehow I got popped into the hashes subdir and extracted that. Oops. All's well.

Phew! Thanks for checking and confirming!

coldacid · 04 March 2023, 02:11

Sorry for worrying you!

reno · 04 March 2023, 04:32

This looks amazing, thank you !

Also super timely for me : with the 3.2.2 release I decided to order an EPROM burner and I was looking into how to make a custom KS with ehide.device. Remus/Romsplit didn't look too inviting.

Just a few questions :
- You released this literally 30 minutes before the 3.2.2 announcement

Should Capitoline work out of the box with 3.2.2 ROMs for most use cases, or do you need to update it ?
- I'm on macOS : am I missing out on anything by using the CLI rather than the Windows GUI ?
- Any plans to open source it ?

Thank you again

Mikeywikey · 04 March 2023, 22:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by reno

This looks amazing, thank you !

Also super timely for me : with the 3.2.2 release I decided to order an EPROM burner and I was looking into how to make a custom KS with ehide.device. Remus/Romsplit didn't look too inviting.

Just a few questions :
- You released this literally 30 minutes before the 3.2.2 announcement

Should Capitoline work out of the box with 3.2.2 ROMs for most use cases, or do you need to update it ?
- I'm on macOS : am I missing out on anything by using the CLI rather than the Windows GUI ?
- Any plans to open source it ?

Thank you again

Thanks!

I’ll post the 3.2.2 definitions tomorrow when I’m back home (they are easy to do for Hyperion) - it does need to know about the different ROMs, I’ll include an automatic recipe/test to create a 1Mb kickstart, what Amiga do you have?
The MacOS CLI can do everything the GUI can do (in fact the CLI can do everything, but the GUI is limited) - you just have to type the file names.
I will probably release all the sources, sometime, once I stop updating (fixing!) it and I’m keeping the DLL open and documenting as much about ROM structures as I go

reno · 05 March 2023, 01:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikeywikey

Thanks!

I’ll post the 3.2.2 definitions tomorrow when I’m back home (they are easy to do for Hyperion) - it does need to know about the different ROMs, I’ll include an automatic recipe/test to create a 1Mb kickstart, what Amiga do you have?
The MacOS CLI can do everything the GUI can do (in fact the CLI can do everything, but the GUI is limited) - you just have to type the file names.
I will probably release all the sources, sometime, once I stop updating (fixing!) it and I’m keeping the DLL open and documenting as much about ROM structures as I go

Ok great !
It's for an A1200 primarily, but I might also want to do the CD32/600/500 next

Mikeywikey · 05 March 2023, 09:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by reno

Ok great !
It's for an A1200 primarily, but I might also want to do the CD32/600/500 next

Cool, I might knock up a recipe for a Hyperion CD32 ROM, they don’t include one, I think there’s some legal issues around the CD32 specific modules, not covered by the source code agreement or there’s no new versions so distributing the original modules might not be allowed, but if have a CD32 ROM it shouldn’t be a problem, I have a couple of CD32s but not with me at the mo, so I ctry it in WinUAE

I’ve heard, but it needs to be verified that there might be an issue with ehide and the new 3.2.2, or perhaps it was a combination of 3.2.2 and 060 with 3.2.2, but it might not be an issue, not sure how many people have used the TF with 3.2.2.

Mikeywikey · 05 March 2023, 18:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by reno

Ok great !
It's for an A1200 primarily, but I might also want to do the CD32/600/500 next

As promised, March update posted on the website including the 3.2.2 definitions and some minor updates I had in the pipeline.
You can download and extract the files into your existing install and it adds the 3.2.2 definitions, and updates the capcli code.

What’s your ideal A1200 ROM?

wiz12 · 05 March 2023, 18:57

Nice tool, can this patch the 3.2.2 rom with eide.device for TF cards?

Tallguy297 · 06 March 2023, 03:35

Is there a way of importing BlizKick modules into A1200 Kickstart 3.2.2?
I have tried using the CAPCLI utility.
It shows the modules have been compiled.
When I run the workbench command

SHOW CONFIG

command, only the 'gb' (British) keymap is resident.

This is the config file I am running...

Code:

auditfiles ROMs
alias SOURCEROM "$0x5c40328a"
newrom 512k 255
rombase 0xF80000
add "$SOURCEROM" exec.library
add "$SOURCEROM" expansion.library
add "$SOURCEROM" mathieeesingbas.library
add "$SOURCEROM" graphics.library
add "$SOURCEROM" dos.library
add "$SOURCEROM" filesystem
add "$SOURCEROM" console.device
add "$SOURCEROM" layers.library
add "$SOURCEROM" scsi.device
add "$SOURCEROM" con-handler
add "$SOURCEROM" bootmenu
add "$SOURCEROM" syscheck
add "$SOURCEROM" audio.device
add "$SOURCEROM" card.resource
add "$SOURCEROM" utility.library
add "$SOURCEROM" battclock.resource
add "$SOURCEROM" carddisk.device
add "$SOURCEROM" ramdrive.device
add "$SOURCEROM" mathffp.library
add "$SOURCEROM" cia.resource
add "$SOURCEROM" battmem.resource
add "$SOURCEROM" potgo.resource
add "$SOURCEROM" FileSystem.resource
add "$SOURCEROM" misc.resource
add "$SOURCEROM" disk.resource
add "$SOURCEROM" ramlib
add "$SOURCEROM" keymap.library
add "$SOURCEROM" timer.device
add "$SOURCEROM" romboot
add "$SOURCEROM" input.device
add "$SOURCEROM" keyboard.device
add "$SOURCEROM" gameport.device
add "$SOURCEROM" trackdisk.device
add "$SOURCEROM" ram-handler
add "$SOURCEROM" shell
add "$SOURCEROM" intuition.library
add "$SOURCEROM" gadtools.library
add "$SOURCEROM" system-startup
add "$SOURCEROM" syslog
add "$SOURCEROM" workbench.task
add "Keymaps/gb"
add "BlizKick/A1000Jingle"
add "BlizKick/Colour"
add "BlizKick/MoveVBR"
add "BlizKick/NoClick"
add "BlizKick/NewAlert"
add checksum
add size
add vectors
checksum
saverom "Roms/Kick322_NEW.rom"

I've tried just using the object browser to add modules but they all have question marks against them.

Am I doing something wrong??

Thank you...

spudje · 06 March 2023, 11:37

Please remove the download, does not comply with forum rules.

reno · 06 March 2023, 23:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikeywikey

As promised, March update posted on the website including the 3.2.2 definitions and some minor updates I had in the pipeline.
You can download and extract the files into your existing install and it adds the 3.2.2 definitions, and updates the capcli code.

What’s your ideal A1200 ROM?

Thanks for updating so quickly !
I have no idea about my ideal A1200 ROM tbh. Built-in fat32 seems like a good idea. Anything that increases compatibility and usability when booting different WB versions, or even floppies.

ehide + 3.2.2 was my first thought, but I'm new to custom ROMs and I don't even know what's possible/useful to include, or the intricacies of 1MB vs 512KB ROMs (A500/A600 can only do the latter right ? 27C800 required for 1MB ?)

reno · 08 March 2023, 04:44

I've just read through the whole website and this tool is really looking like the future new standard for custom KS creation !

As a newbie the setup steps weren't super clear though (especially as I can't use the GUI) : I figured that you dump your stash of KS roms into "ROMs", but I'm not sure how to populate "Components". Do you manually copy various stuff that you'd like to include, like ehide.device or fat32 / pcmcia drivers ? Can you use the tool to automatically extract components from existing ROMs ? What about ADFs then ?

Anyway, I just had my first attempt at 3.2.2 + EHIDE :

Code:

$ ./capcli.MacOS
CapCLI> loadrom "ROMs/A1200.47.111.rom"
No declared format, assuming unencoded, unencrypted data
WARNING, No hash file for component 40 may have unknown relocs
WARNING, No hash file for component 41 may have unknown relocs
WARNING, No hash file for component 42 may have unknown relocs
CapCLI> add "Components/ehide_d2874a8/ehide.device"
Populating component 133 relocs
Not enough space in rom
No space in rom

And that's a fail ! Am I doing something wrong or is there truly not enough space in 3.2.2 without removing other stuff ?
I don't understand : the 3.2.2 .rom file is 512KB and we have two 512K slots in a 1200. How do I tell Capitoline to use them ? "romprofile" only seems to be for saving.

:

If I do need to remove things to make space for ehide, how would I go about learning which components are essential and which ones can go ? Any useful recipes (I find the ones in tests rather basic) ?

reno · 08 March 2023, 05:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by reno

Am I doing something wrong or is there truly not enough space in 3.2.2 without removing other stuff ?
I don't understand : the 3.2.2 .rom file is 512KB and we have two 512K slots in a 1200. How do I tell Capitoline to use them ? "romprofile" only seems to be for saving.

:

If I do need to remove things to make space for ehide, how would I go about learning which components are essential and which ones can go ? Any useful recipes (I find the ones in tests rather basic) ?

Okay, many of my questions are actually answered here. It turns out that creating a 1MB ROM is a much more involved process. I naively thought that Capitoline would automatically set up the second 512KB as an extended ROM for overflow space if I added more components, but that's probably a lot to ask at this point

It doesn't even know I'm targeting a 1200 in fact...

Is the linked HowTO directly applicable to 3.2.2 ?

R4M · 08 March 2023, 08:05

In principle it should be possible to take a stock ROM, patch it to also look for ROMtags at $E00000 and than assemble all missing Modules into a ROM file which is to be mapped at $E00000.

02 March 2023, 19:02	#1
Mikeywikey Kickstart Hacker Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: Wales Posts: 80	Kickstart Editor updates, extra features and fixes! Did a bunch of tidyups and fixes to the Kickstart editor and celebrated by moving it to a v1.00 release and a new website with loads of Kickstart/ROM history and technical info. Major feature update, “analyserom” now uses component hash files to identify known components Standard “Recipes and Tests” added, to check Cap works and to be used as template examples Quiet a few small (unmentioned) fixes and a couple of important ones like CD32 ROM writing fixed, broken in last release Quite a lot of tidying hash files and adding ROM hashes, after fixing how unordered relocs are handled Bugfixes Patcher Patching components that don’t have relocs no longer coredumps findopcode was broken since previous missassembler updates (didn’t check!), also tweaked to do more exhaustive searches (every two bytes) Saving CD32 ROMs Saving a CD32 formatted ROM works again now, I had inadvertently reordered the interleaving process which made them unusable, this is now documented on the website! CapCLI “add” Adding components without relocs no longer risks null pointer access (tried to access a null list) Adding components with unordered relocs could lead to inconsistent hashes (auto sorts them now) Adding unallocated space works properly now (adds as a component) Hash Files Previously missed 1.x 2.x 3.x components added Definition fixed for 0xbc0ec13f.Kickstart v1.4 beta 3 r36.16 (1990-03)(Commodore)(A3000)[!] (and the two bad hashes removed, thanks to Greg Donner) Defintion added for 0x17d949e3.0x17d949e3.Kickstart 1.4 r36.15 Beta 4 Definitions for early KS2 v36/v37 added Amiga Forever definitions added Hyperion ROMs and component hashes fixed when components has unordered relocs Superkick hashes (floppy and file) now properly analysed Enhancements CapCLI analyserom – Significant update, now uses hash files (not just loaded components) for more complete component identification, you no longer have to have extracted files or known ROMs to identify known components, and you don’t have to load them Added * to roms command output to show current rom adfsavezip – lets you save a loaded ADF file as a zip file rombase – The rombase command now patches already added libraries to the new address, you can relocate an entire ROM to a new ROMBASE this way. It doesn’t currently update kickity-split, extended ROMHEADER or SKSize, and you need to checksum the ROM before use. Missassembler Default debug level reduced when adding comments/labels to cut down on noise Added misshints.ini (see Features->Missassembler for more info) CapGUI Lots of icon and colour tidy ups (and a nasty green replaced with a nice purple) “Save ADF to Zip” added to the ADF: options once an ADF is loaded Website All new website created, all the old content copied, plus a few new pages added, HowTo, ROM list (big update), Kickstart formats, features http://capitoline.twocatsblack.com/

08 March 2023, 04:44	#18
reno Registered User Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: London Posts: 63	I've just read through the whole website and this tool is really looking like the future new standard for custom KS creation ! As a newbie the setup steps weren't super clear though (especially as I can't use the GUI) : I figured that you dump your stash of KS roms into "ROMs", but I'm not sure how to populate "Components". Do you manually copy various stuff that you'd like to include, like ehide.device or fat32 / pcmcia drivers ? Can you use the tool to automatically extract components from existing ROMs ? What about ADFs then ? Anyway, I just had my first attempt at 3.2.2 + EHIDE : Code: $ ./capcli.MacOS CapCLI> loadrom "ROMs/A1200.47.111.rom" No declared format, assuming unencoded, unencrypted data WARNING, No hash file for component 40 may have unknown relocs WARNING, No hash file for component 41 may have unknown relocs WARNING, No hash file for component 42 may have unknown relocs CapCLI> add "Components/ehide_d2874a8/ehide.device" Populating component 133 relocs Not enough space in rom No space in rom And that's a fail ! Am I doing something wrong or is there truly not enough space in 3.2.2 without removing other stuff ? I don't understand : the 3.2.2 .rom file is 512KB and we have two 512K slots in a 1200. How do I tell Capitoline to use them ? "romprofile" only seems to be for saving. : If I do need to remove things to make space for ehide, how would I go about learning which components are essential and which ones can go ? Any useful recipes (I find the ones in tests rather basic) ?

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03 March 2023, 02:00	#2
coldacid WinUAE 4000/40, V4SA Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: East of Oshawa Posts: 538	You should check that download, it's missing the executables (it has description files instead).

03 March 2023, 14:12	#4
coldacid WinUAE 4000/40, V4SA Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: East of Oshawa Posts: 538	That's not the same download that I got.

04 March 2023, 00:52	#6
coldacid WinUAE 4000/40, V4SA Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: East of Oshawa Posts: 538	I just re-downloaded it and it looks like somehow I got popped into the hashes subdir and extracted that. Oops. All's well.

04 March 2023, 02:11	#8
coldacid WinUAE 4000/40, V4SA Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: East of Oshawa Posts: 538	Sorry for worrying you!

04 March 2023, 04:32	#9
reno Registered User Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: London Posts: 63	This looks amazing, thank you ! Also super timely for me : with the 3.2.2 release I decided to order an EPROM burner and I was looking into how to make a custom KS with ehide.device. Remus/Romsplit didn't look too inviting. Just a few questions : - You released this literally 30 minutes before the 3.2.2 announcement Should Capitoline work out of the box with 3.2.2 ROMs for most use cases, or do you need to update it ? - I'm on macOS : am I missing out on anything by using the CLI rather than the Windows GUI ? - Any plans to open source it ? Thank you again

05 March 2023, 18:57	#14
wiz12 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Ireland Posts: 752	Nice tool, can this patch the 3.2.2 rom with eide.device for TF cards?

06 March 2023, 11:37	#16
spudje Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,406	Please remove the download, does not comply with forum rules.

08 March 2023, 08:05	#20
R4M Registered User Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: /home Posts: 122	In principle it should be possible to take a stock ROM, patch it to also look for ROMtags at $E00000 and than assemble all missing Modules into a ROM file which is to be mapped at $E00000.

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