Amiga RGB to S-Video + composite adaptor - Page 6

narmi · 19 September 2007, 02:30

@alexh: do you have a link to get the board for $40? I would pay $40 for an SD/FF.

@hurtz, and anybody else who wants an NTSC-only board:
PM me with the number of boards you want, and your location (zip code or postal code) so I can estimate the shipping charge. If there is enough interest (10 or more boards) I will do a run. If enough people PM me, I'll start a thread in the marketplace to discuss pricing and other details.

@mrodfr
No one can guarantee that the board won't damage your Amiga if it malfunctions, but I doubt that a bad/broken board will do any damage. The board only connects to outputs on the Amiga, it doesn't send any signal back that could mess things up. Just don't plug or unplug it while it's powered on

.

I tested my external NTSC board with my A600 and Panasonic 34" HDTV (a big honkin' CRT). It looks great, even in interlaced modes because the TV has its own de-interlacer (flicker fixer). I tested NTSC Hires, Super-hires, and their corresponding interlaced modes. S-video is sharper and more colour-correct than composite video, but not sharp enough for the super-hires modes. Text is readable, but the edges are too soft. The TV could not display any PAL modes, though my 1084 can. I'm not sure how that works given that the encoder is hardwired as NTSC, but it works.

I was able to use the composite and s-video outputs at the same time with no problem. The quality of the composite is on par with the A600's own composite output. I may build the circuit Jope mentioned to add s-video to the A600 using it's own encoder chip for comparisons later, I think I have all the necessary parts.

As I expected, Productivity mode could not be displayed, all I got was a wonky off-colour image.

EDIT: Yes, I do like the name

.

alexh · 19 September 2007, 10:03

http://www.miba51.com/CoCo_VGA_Adpater.html

My bad they are / were $48

They are 16-bit only meaning you loose colours why trying to display AGA, however lots of Amiga scandoublers were only 16-bit

mrodfr · 19 September 2007, 12:42

hello,

thanks for the informations for the "narmi external deluxe".

Do you want to search after more customers ???

Is It necessary to post on news site the informations and receive thousands ;-) of new customers for the hardware ???

I know you make the stuff for the fun, for help the amiga users and for using your skill for making hardware and sure you don't want to do constant business ????.

what are your projects ???

nujack · 24 September 2007, 20:13

@narmi: I would buy a ntsc-device too if I can use it with my german A4000. I want to connect the S-Video-output of this device with my PCI-TV-card to bring the signal of PAL/NTSC-games to my LCD-Screen. Will this work?

narmi · 25 September 2007, 02:25

@nujack: I think you'll need a PAL version, but I'm not sure. I don't know what clock frequency (/CCK) a German A4000 will output on the video port when it shows an NTSC screenmode. I'll have to probe my PAL A500+ to see what it does when I select a NTSC screenmode. My A600 seems to output an NTSC /CCK even in PAL screenmodes, though the horizontal and vertical clocks seem to change to PAL.

digit01 · 01 October 2007, 19:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zetr0

already got you down for one m8

lets see

this is what i have so far

internal units
- DrF
- Methanoid
external units
- Charlie
- Me

hmmm i should of ordered more.....

I hope I'm not late but I would like an External NTSC version

please oh please!

Zetr0 · 01 October 2007, 21:12

@digit01

Hello there and welcome to the EAB, i am sure you will like it here.

I will put you down for the next batch

I will be etching the existing boards this week

(was going to do it last week just keep running out of time

)

thanks for your patience guys

Charlie · 02 October 2007, 01:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zetr0

I will be etching the existing boards this week

(was going to do it last week just keep running out of time

)

Time...
...How many projects are you juggling @ the mo'..?

My thanks for your efforts - and your generosity!

It will go a treat with the A1200 I'm in the process of modding.

Zetr0 · 02 October 2007, 02:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie

Time...
...How many projects are you juggling @ the mo'..?

Oh my friend.... perhaps too many

... but the SVideo gets priority this week

... i have the boards printed just need etching time

and soldering... and testing... and packing

mentioning projects I have just finished the clip-on 8MB upgrade for the A600... gonna revise and check tomorrow evening .... but i think I have cracked it..... *small whoot* will see tomorrow

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie

My thanks for your efforts - and your generosity!

It will go a treat with the A1200 I'm in the process of modding.

More than welcome, consider it a thank you for your help and counsul my friend

digit01 · 02 October 2007, 19:53

Man I cannot tell you how long I have been dreaming about being able to hook up my A500 via s-video. I'm getting ready to mod my C64 for that as well. I have no desk space for a 1702 monitor so I see it fitting to just plug these precious gems into my tv card for my PC. Well a different one I have yet to buy

my Wintv150 has a delay due to the encoding-but non the less I am happy that you all have been doing this.

mrodfr · 02 October 2007, 20:09

hello,

I also would like to have a great PAL signal to send to my pctv pci TV card on the elbox mediator (comp or svideo) to have a great PAL amiga on a window for playing with whdload games.

also maybe send the PAL to a futur flat monitor or TV LCD (I don't know).

It's a verry great hardware. I would like to have the hardware reliable (well made and robust) and can be used in a large range of possibilities. There is also no problems for me if last minuts improvement must be made (or not) to be even better ;-)

I think with some publicity, It wil be possible to found a great number of new customers (I don't make publicity myself for the harware, just to keep all calm).

If zetrO have a Paypal account, easy to pay the hardware and postage.

hope my english is OK on all the answer :-)

Zetr0 · 02 October 2007, 21:20

Hi guys,

As an update, this week I will be etcing / assembling and posting to

DrF
Methanoid
Charlie

from this i will have an idea on howmuch it will cost for future runs

I will start a thread / post in the market place with a cost (including pictures and postage)

for PAL versions of Internal and External Units

and paypal is always an option, I will not be asking for any money untill the unit is complete and you are happy with it...

I will need Narmi's help in sourcing some components (again) if thats okay with you sir!

digit01 · 03 October 2007, 01:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zetr0

Hi guys,

As an update, this week I will be etcing / assembling and posting to

DrF
Methanoid
Charlie

from this i will have an idea on howmuch it will cost for future runs

I will start a thread / post in the market place with a cost (including pictures and postage)

for PAL versions of Internal and External Units

and paypal is always an option, I will not be asking for any money untill the unit is complete and you are happy with it...

I will need Narmi's help in sourcing some components (again) if thats okay with you sir!

Sounds great! Just let me know when you are ready for the rest of us and I will gladly send you the money.

narmi · 03 October 2007, 04:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zetr0

I will need Narmi's help in sourcing some components (again) if thats okay with you sir!

No problem, just send a PM. I'm looking foward to the pics!

I've also been juggling projects, and a new job, so I've been pretty busy lately. I hope to post something new this weekend.

Zetr0 · 03 October 2007, 12:36

@Narmi

Excelent! thank you!

New Job eh? I hope its going well

possibly posting somthing new.... *excited* I am such a sucker for hardware pr0n!

Angus · 05 October 2007, 21:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zetr0

if i have this correct

interested parties for maybe this month's order there is

Amigo's

NuJack
Angus
Rebel CD32
Gizmomelb (maybe)

Hi, I've been on holiday for a week, I'm not sure what developments have been but I just wanted to let Zetr0 know I was still very keen.

Cheers,

Angus.

Zetr0 · 06 October 2007, 01:13

no worries m8y, still runnning a bit slow here, but as an update i have a couple of boards etching as i type

Angus · 06 October 2007, 09:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zetr0

no worries m8y, still runnning a bit slow here, but as an update i have a couple of boards etching as i type

Excellent stuff. Thanks for the update - and your efforts.

digit01 · 14 October 2007, 00:32

Let me know if there is anything I can help with

.

mrodfr · 14 October 2007, 07:07

hello,

I'm not forgotten on the list, zethrO ???

(the external unit PAL version)

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19 September 2007, 02:30	#101
narmi Guru Meditation Error Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 92	@alexh: do you have a link to get the board for $40? I would pay $40 for an SD/FF. @hurtz, and anybody else who wants an NTSC-only board: PM me with the number of boards you want, and your location (zip code or postal code) so I can estimate the shipping charge. If there is enough interest (10 or more boards) I will do a run. If enough people PM me, I'll start a thread in the marketplace to discuss pricing and other details. @mrodfr No one can guarantee that the board won't damage your Amiga if it malfunctions, but I doubt that a bad/broken board will do any damage. The board only connects to outputs on the Amiga, it doesn't send any signal back that could mess things up. Just don't plug or unplug it while it's powered on . I tested my external NTSC board with my A600 and Panasonic 34" HDTV (a big honkin' CRT). It looks great, even in interlaced modes because the TV has its own de-interlacer (flicker fixer). I tested NTSC Hires, Super-hires, and their corresponding interlaced modes. S-video is sharper and more colour-correct than composite video, but not sharp enough for the super-hires modes. Text is readable, but the edges are too soft. The TV could not display any PAL modes, though my 1084 can. I'm not sure how that works given that the encoder is hardwired as NTSC, but it works. I was able to use the composite and s-video outputs at the same time with no problem. The quality of the composite is on par with the A600's own composite output. I may build the circuit Jope mentioned to add s-video to the A600 using it's own encoder chip for comparisons later, I think I have all the necessary parts. As I expected, Productivity mode could not be displayed, all I got was a wonky off-colour image. EDIT: Yes, I do like the name .

19 September 2007, 10:03	#102
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,354	http://www.miba51.com/CoCo_VGA_Adpater.html My bad they are / were $48 They are 16-bit only meaning you loose colours why trying to display AGA, however lots of Amiga scandoublers were only 16-bit

19 September 2007, 12:42	#103
mrodfr Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: 62-France Age: 56 Posts: 413	hello, thanks for the informations for the "narmi external deluxe". Do you want to search after more customers ??? Is It necessary to post on news site the informations and receive thousands ;-) of new customers for the hardware ??? I know you make the stuff for the fun, for help the amiga users and for using your skill for making hardware and sure you don't want to do constant business ????. what are your projects ???

24 September 2007, 20:13	#104
nujack Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Leipzig/Germany Age: 49 Posts: 458	@narmi: I would buy a ntsc-device too if I can use it with my german A4000. I want to connect the S-Video-output of this device with my PCI-TV-card to bring the signal of PAL/NTSC-games to my LCD-Screen. Will this work?

25 September 2007, 02:25	#105
narmi Guru Meditation Error Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 92	@nujack: I think you'll need a PAL version, but I'm not sure. I don't know what clock frequency (/CCK) a German A4000 will output on the video port when it shows an NTSC screenmode. I'll have to probe my PAL A500+ to see what it does when I select a NTSC screenmode. My A600 seems to output an NTSC /CCK even in PAL screenmodes, though the horizontal and vertical clocks seem to change to PAL.

01 October 2007, 21:12	#107
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@digit01 Hello there and welcome to the EAB, i am sure you will like it here. I will put you down for the next batch I will be etching the existing boards this week (was going to do it last week just keep running out of time ) thanks for your patience guys

02 October 2007, 19:53	#110
digit01 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NC Posts: 20	Man I cannot tell you how long I have been dreaming about being able to hook up my A500 via s-video. I'm getting ready to mod my C64 for that as well. I have no desk space for a 1702 monitor so I see it fitting to just plug these precious gems into my tv card for my PC. Well a different one I have yet to buy my Wintv150 has a delay due to the encoding-but non the less I am happy that you all have been doing this.

02 October 2007, 20:09	#111
mrodfr Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: 62-France Age: 56 Posts: 413	hello, I also would like to have a great PAL signal to send to my pctv pci TV card on the elbox mediator (comp or svideo) to have a great PAL amiga on a window for playing with whdload games. also maybe send the PAL to a futur flat monitor or TV LCD (I don't know). It's a verry great hardware. I would like to have the hardware reliable (well made and robust) and can be used in a large range of possibilities. There is also no problems for me if last minuts improvement must be made (or not) to be even better ;-) I think with some publicity, It wil be possible to found a great number of new customers (I don't make publicity myself for the harware, just to keep all calm). If zetrO have a Paypal account, easy to pay the hardware and postage. hope my english is OK on all the answer :-)

02 October 2007, 21:20	#112
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	Hi guys, As an update, this week I will be etcing / assembling and posting to DrF Methanoid Charlie from this i will have an idea on howmuch it will cost for future runs I will start a thread / post in the market place with a cost (including pictures and postage) for PAL versions of Internal and External Units and paypal is always an option, I will not be asking for any money untill the unit is complete and you are happy with it... I will need Narmi's help in sourcing some components (again) if thats okay with you sir!

03 October 2007, 12:36	#115
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@Narmi Excelent! thank you! New Job eh? I hope its going well possibly posting somthing new.... excited I am such a sucker for hardware pr0n!

06 October 2007, 01:13	#117
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	no worries m8y, still runnning a bit slow here, but as an update i have a couple of boards etching as i type

14 October 2007, 00:32	#119
digit01 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NC Posts: 20	Let me know if there is anything I can help with .

14 October 2007, 07:07	#120
mrodfr Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: 62-France Age: 56 Posts: 413	hello, I'm not forgotten on the list, zethrO ??? (the external unit PAL version)

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