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Old 27 July 2023, 11:24   #81
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But then it would no longer be an original Amiga 4000, which is the point of my original post.

The new Checkmate already exists for people who want a redesigned case. But for many people, they would rather spend hundreds on a original A3000 case than buy one of those.
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Old 27 July 2023, 11:31   #82
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But then it would no longer be an original Amiga 4000, which is the point of my original post.

The new Checkmate already exists for people who want a redesigned case. But for many people, they would rather spend hundreds on a original A3000 case than buy one of those.
the collectors want everything original and would not be interested in something new. There is still a lot of original hardware available that would be cheaper than a new one. I do not see a market out there currently. And even on longer run, why rebuilding the original hardware?
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Old 27 July 2023, 12:45   #83
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However I am still to be convinced on the benefit of running any software on actual hardware compared to a quality emulated alternative.
If you never got rid of the hardware, like me, why not? WinUae is certainly nice for compiling largish C projects, though.
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Old 27 July 2023, 15:41   #84
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Literally every company making cases and keyboards.
But they aren't. It took me 3 attempts to get the PC keyboard I wanted. Every time I odered it they said it was out of stock, and when it came back in stock the price went up.

No company is making a case and keyboard styled like the A1000 or A4000, so if I want that I am forced to buy original hardware at grossly inflated prices. I'm not going to do that, but I would be prepared to pay a reasonable price for new hardware that is equivalent.
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But then it would no longer be an original Amiga 4000, which is the point of my original post.
I you only accept original hardware then then this thread is pointless.

But there are many who would be happy with something that looks the same and has the same functionality, even it doesn't weigh a ton and have screw holes that don't line up (A3000) or isn't made of thin metal with razor sharp edges (A4000).

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The new Checkmate already exists for people who want a redesigned case. But for many people, they would rather spend hundreds on a original A3000 case than buy one of those.
The new Checkmate case is not appealing to me because it copies flawed features of the A3000 case design without being identical to it. I'm not sure an A3000 motherboard would even fit in it.
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Old 27 July 2023, 17:16   #86
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The intent of "original hardware" relates to using moulds that will produces the style, anesthetics, and dimensions of the original case; using the original chip set rather than an FPGA version.

Of course, if minor corrections can be introduced such as screw alignment, quality RAM connectors etc, I don't think anybody would mind, rather we could legitimately say it is a new "revision".
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Tank mouse too? I mean it's hardly a reproduction without the tank mouse.
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using the original chip set rather than an FPGA version
Good luck getting hold of significant quantities of those!
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Tank mouse too? I mean it's hardly a reproduction without the tank mouse.
There you go: https://sordan.ie/search/?q=tank+mouse
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That simply would not do at all. Wireless? PC USB Bluetooth adapter? Touch scrolling? That's no reproduction!
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That simply would not do at all. Wireless? PC USB Bluetooth adapter? Touch scrolling? That's no reproduction!
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Those who complain about the quality of plastics should have a look at ACIIL’s printouts of A4000 front fascia on a proper, professional, resin printer.
It is astounding.
Such printout is probably around or less than $100 with JLCPCB similar service…
Since the case will require painting, a car painter can do both at the same time for another $100.
A case should cost less than $1000, probably $600-$800, even considering the re-engineering, which leaves 2k$ for the motherboard… but the chips remain the issue.
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