TF1260 won't boot from EHIDE

[xalakibaniou]

I have just bought a TF1260 128MB with a 68060. The card fitted neatly in my custom made tower A1200.


I also have an 4x fast IDE adapter that boots as usual. I installed the drivers that came with the TF1260.


My physical ROM is 3.1.4 and OS version is 3.2.1
I added the necessary lines to my startup-sequence but no luck. The machine wont boot from TF1260 EHIDE but it boots fine from the 4x IDE fast adapter.


I ordered the card with modified boot rom.
I tried to disconnect the 4x IDE fast adapter but still won't boot


My HDD is 3.5 and i use a 2.5 to 3.5 ide cable. Power is not an issue since my PSU is 550W and stable.


File System used PFS3.


Any ideas?



Startup-sequence
; $VER: Startup-Sequence_HardDrive 47.16 (18.10.2021)
; Startup-Sequence for hard drive systems

Version exec.library version 47 >NIL:
If Warn
LoadModule L:System-Startup ROMUPDATE
Else
Version strap version 47 >NIL:
If Warn
LoadModule DOWNGRADE L:Ram-Handler L:Shell-Seg L:System-Startup Libs:dos.library Libs:gadtools.library Libs:graphics.library >NIL:
EndIf
EndIf
SetPatch >NIL:

Failat 21
SYS:Libs/MuFastROM >NIL:

Failat 21
LoadModule SYSevs/ehide.device >NIL:

;------------------- CPU CheckInstall Section ------------------------

FailAt 31
CPU CHECKINSTALL

SET temp1 $RC

If VAL $temp1 EQ 30
ECHO ""
ASK "Press the RETURN key to resume booting into a restricted system."
Execute S:Startup-failsafe
QUIT
EndIf

If VAL $temp1 EQ 5
ECHO ""
ASK "Press the RETURN key to resume booting."
EndIf

UNSET temp1

;---------------- End of CPU CheckInstall Section --------------------

FailAt 10
Version >NIL:

Assign >nil: EXISTS DF0:
If not warn
AddBuffers DF0: 15 >NIL:
EndIf

If EXISTS ENVARC:
MakeLink RAM:ENV to ENVARC: FORCE
Else
MakeDir RAM:ENV
Endif
MakeDir RAM:T RAM:Clipboards

Resident C:Assign PURE

Assign ENV: RAM:ENV
Assign T: RAM:T
Assign CLIPS: RAM:Clipboards
Assign REXX: S:

FailAt 21
Assign PRINTERS: DEVS:Printers
Assign KEYMAPS: DEVS:Keymaps
Assign LOCALE: SYS:Locale
Assign LIBS: SYS:Classes ADD
Assign HELP: LOCALE:Help DEFER

; ## AmigaKit 4xIDE adapter
IF EXISTS c:Load4xIDEPrefs
c:Load4xIDEPrefs QUIET
EndIF


BindDrivers
Mount DEVSOSDrivers/~(#?.info)

LoadMonDrvs >NIL:

FailAt 10
SetEnv Language "english"
SetEnv Workbench $Workbench
SetEnv Kickstart $Kickstart
UnSet Workbench
UnSet Kickstart

AddDataTypes REFRESH QUIET
IPrefs
ConClip

If EXISTS SYS:System/RexxMast
SYS:System/RexxMast >NIL:
EndIF

Path C: SYS:Utilities SYS:Rexxc SYS:System S: SYS:Prefs SYS:Tools SYS:Tools/Commodities

MakeLink RAMisk.info TO ENVARC:Sys/def_RAM.info SOFT

IF EXISTS S:User-Startup
Execute S:User-Startup
EndIF

LoadWB
EndCLI >NIL:

[crazyc]

I may be missing something but I can see some issues.

You should have a hard drive on the a1200 IDE which has the amended startup sequence, once this runs the Loadmodule command will cause it to reboot, at which point it can see the Ehide as well, and it will boot from whichever drive it can find that has the higher priority.

I would suggest a cf adapter and a cheap card on the a1200 IDE just to run loadmodule and reboot.

[xalakibaniou]

Originally Posted by crazyc

I may be missing something but I can see some issues.

You should have a hard drive on the a1200 IDE which has the amended startup sequence, once this runs the Loadmodule command will cause it to reboot, at which point it can see the Ehide as well, and it will boot from whichever drive it can find that has the higher priority.

I would suggest a cf adapter and a cheap card on the a1200 IDE just to run loadmodule and reboot.

Hmmm... So for now i'll leave it as is. Is that a hardware limitation of the Amiga or a TF issue (eg newer firmware)?

[crazyc]

I would suggest getting a set of 3.2 roms with the ehide built in. Not very expensive and sorts this so the ehide is available from first boot.
I dont have anything on my a1200s ide port anymore, just my cf hard drive on the tf1260s ide.

[crazyc]

What did you mean you ordered the card with the modified boot rom?

[xalakibaniou]

Originally Posted by crazyc

What did you mean you ordered the card with the modified boot rom?

may i attach my order details, is it a violation to the forum rules?

Actually i thought i would get 3.2 physical rom modified but nothing was included in the package. Either I misunderstood or may be they forgot (which i think is unlikely) to put the roms in the package.
in the package though it was included an os 3.2 CD with the license printed on it. I registered the product to Hyperion.

[Daedalus]

The TF card doesn't have a boot ROM so it cannot provide the ehide drive at boot time on its own; it needs to come from elsewhere, either a modified Kickstart or loaded from a drive on another interface. If you are using a modified Kickstart that includes the ehide.device, you don't need the Loadmodule line, so I'm assuming you've got standard Kickstart ROMs.

Once it's booted from the internal IDE, can you then see any drives on the TF IDE interface? You can use HDToolbox to check, or perhaps even better would be FindDevice from the IDEFix97 package. This will also list all suitable device drivers available so you can see that ehide.device is being loaded properly.

[Leon Besson]

Maybe worth getting hold of sysinfo on a bootable floppy. Then have a look at which devices and libraries it sees as well Bromigo! That way if no EHIDE.DEVICE is being seen, then it’s NOT included in the ROMs.

[xalakibaniou]

Originally Posted by Daedalus

The TF card doesn't have a boot ROM so it cannot provide the ehide drive at boot time on its own; it needs to come from elsewhere, either a modified Kickstart or loaded from a drive on another interface. If you are using a modified Kickstart that includes the ehide.device, you don't need the Loadmodule line, so I'm assuming you've got standard Kickstart ROMs.

Once it's booted from the internal IDE, can you then see any drives on the TF IDE interface? You can use HDToolbox to check, or perhaps even better would be FindDevice from the IDEFix97 package. This will also list all suitable device drivers available so you can see that ehide.device is being loaded properly.

I see... Well most likely i have to contact my dealer cause i have selected and payed for modified kickstart 3.2.1 roms which were not included in the package

[freakofnature]

My reading of the bill:

Installation guide:
Download the modified 3.2.1 ROMs (digital version!!)

So, no physical ROMs have been offered.

Problem is as already said, you need to softkick the digital roms, reboot, then ehide is detected.
Or you find someone who burns proper eeproms to replace existing roms on A1200.

[xalakibaniou]

Originally Posted by freakofnature

My reading of the bill:

Installation guide:
Download the modified 3.2.1 ROMs (digital version!!)

So, no physical ROMs have been offered.

Problem is as already said, you need to softkick the digital roms, reboot, then ehide is detected.
Or you find someone who burns proper eeproms to replace existing roms on A1200.

and were do i get the digital version?
i thought that the digital version refers to the installation manual (which was included after all in the package)

screenshot is the configuration i selected. I am pretty sure that the digital version refers to the manual and not to the roms

[freakofnature]

You're right. It refers to the manual.

I had a quick peek at the store and you're right again, they owe you the physical roms. Let's hope they mail them quickly.

[xalakibaniou]

Originally Posted by freakofnature

You're right. It refers to the manual.

I had a quick peek at the store and you're right again, they owe you the physical roms. Let's hope they mail them quickly.

Thanks! I thought i am dumb, totally stupid.


I sent them a message just a while ago. I hope they will not charge me for extra shipping. Besides it's their fault and have placed other orders to them in the past and generally i am very pleased by their response times.

[Leon Besson]

Originally Posted by xalakibaniou

Thanks! I thought i am dumb, totally stupid.


I sent them a message just a while ago. I hope they will not charge me for extra shipping. Besides it's their fault and have placed other orders to them in the past and generally i am very pleased by their response times.

I take it you have registered your copy with Hyperion on the website? The serial number is/was on the cellophane wrapper of the CD box. You can then download 3.2.1 with the latest 3.2.1 ROMs

[thomas]

Originally Posted by Leon Besson

I take it you have registered your copy with Hyperion on the website? The serial number is/was on the cellophane wrapper of the CD box. You can then download 3.2.1 with the latest 3.2.1 ROMs

He needs modified ROMs which include the TF IDE drivers. Those are not available from Hyperion.

[xalakibaniou]

Originally Posted by Leon Besson

I take it you have registered your copy with Hyperion on the website? The serial number is/was on the cellophane wrapper of the CD box. You can then download 3.2.1 with the latest 3.2.1 ROMs

Yes, i have registered my product to Hyperion's website but I have paid for physical ROMs which were not included in the package. Anyway I hope they admit their mistake and ship the ROMs to me as soon as possible.

[xalakibaniou]

Originally Posted by thomas

He needs modified ROMs which include the TF IDE drivers. Those are not available from Hyperion.

Thanks Thomas, you are have helped me solve quite a few hardware issues in the past.


This is the first time I have encountered a shipment with missing items. It's my word against theirs. I beleive thy have no reason not to trust my word.
A few years ago during the lockdown across Europe due to covid-19 pandemic I purchased OS3.1.4 + physical ROMs from the same store. To be honest my shipment arrived unexpectedly fast and they were very helpful in general.

[klx300r]

@ xalakibaniou

Hi, you need to get the EHIDE driver file which is associated with the firmware version of your TF1260 and this is usually provided by the person who sold you your card.
Once you get the driver you need to run it in your startup-sequence i.e c:ehide.driver etc…this has nothing to do with boot rom issue. Also many CF cards won’t work even if you have the driver installed so you may have to try a few before it works. When I’m in front of my A1200 later today I’ll have a look at my startup-sequence as I recall the driver line needs to be located at a certain spot else it wouldn’t work for me

Also I’ve done a few blogs about updating firmware on my TF1260 with test results which you might find interesting here https://mancave-ramblings.blogspot.c...mware.html?m=1

[crazyc]

Originally Posted by klx300r

@ xalakibaniou

Hi, you need to get the EHIDE driver file which is associated with the firmware version of your TF1260 and this is usually provided by the person who sold you your card.
Once you get the driver you need to run it in your startup-sequence i.e c:ehide.driver etc…this has nothing to do with boot rom issue.

Are you sure? Whilst I am no expert I am pretty sure that without the custom roms the ehide driver needs to be loaded using loadmodule on the normal IDE if he wants to then boot from the TF1260's own IDE.
Also I thought it was CPU speed that was firmware dependent, for the ehide you just want the latest driver whatever firmware you have?

[Leon Besson]

Originally Posted by thomas

He needs modified ROMs which include the TF IDE drivers. Those are not available from Hyperion.

Indeed Thomas. I stand corrected Bromigo!