23 May 2016, 13:31 | #121 |
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these is different ways to go around it. and there is a number of projects that could be affected. some sane, fair and genral solution would be most welcome for all, i sense.
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In this case candidates were derived from Candida which can also be pretty nasty...
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You'd only go to HP to buy OCP hardware if you are doing it because your CTO/CIO thinks it's cool. At the kind of scale we're talking about for Amiga hardware, anyone trying to make a little money from hardware, would be foolish to open source their designs. However, it's also more likely that you have people doing hardware for fun, who aren't motivated by profit and are prepared to open everything (e.g. mntmn) |
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I just want to notice it again. Don`t take the stuff written on a1k.org serious because the most posts are guesswork, wrong, attacks and meanings based on prejudices. wawa and OlafSch are part of that.
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Do you think the Individual Jens Schoenfled aka ICOMP, aka the saviour of the amiga community needs this kind of support? most here are old enough to understand what he was or IS trying to do. |
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<br /> you are our hero to make you happy I will more and more retreat from amiga community. People like you and others get exactly what they deserve so live with it. For me looking from someone living and working in 2016 it is looking more and more obscure anyway. Last edited by OlafSch; 24 May 2016 at 10:29. |
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I only see people who want to do, make, create something (this includes wawa and OlafSch, and many others of course). And people who want to stop that (armchair lawyers, licence vultures...). |
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most users obviously want it how it is otherwise they would think different. Whoever buys P96 will not buy it for charity but to make profit. Depending on the person/company there might even be strategic/political reasons to do it. None of this is primarly to make users happy, it is simply business. Clever boys like Daxb with their obviously superior knowledge and experience knows what is good so when they want it they will exactly get what they deserve, perhaps even more than they asked for. But that is not my problem anymore.
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I must admit, with everything that's going on in Amiga land lately, I feel like throwing in the towel and walking away/selling up. Think I'll take a back seat for a while and see how things pan out.
This whole thing just stinks of greed and sour grapes from certain people, about time certain folk started growing up! |
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I m for an option to keep all legal. After all everyone should get credit for hard work and all licenses should be paid. But after all blackmails I got I have no idea anymore who owns what, what is legit and what company/group represent what piece of software. After months of talking all is more and more confusing and this is becoming nothing more than:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordian_Knot Read complete wiki article please |
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&lt;br /&gt;<br /><br /> the problem is amiga market was very amateurish in legal sense. Many known companies only sold products but the copyright stayed at the developers. Then the amiga market collapsed and both the companies and the developers left. Now it is difficult to even find the copyright owners at all (former amiga developers, partly several) or they even block for strategical reasons. In other cases it was done only half legal. To avoid all that you would need a clean start avoiding all those old software but users obviously do not want that. So be it... they have to live with the consequences |
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ideally a cooperation on them problem as proposed by heiroglyph should be undertaken. because i see all kinds of independent attempts to solve this, each going it own way. instead the interested parties would best come off coordinatin their approach rather than doubling and trippling work and coming to independent incompatible halfway solutions.
i mean here: apollo tam fpga arcade aros? mist mntmn a1k members concerned about similar projects like ratte and mazze.. ..others? |
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@OlafSch: Thanks! Always wanted to be a hero. I guess people have different opinions about what Amiga "community" is or how it should be. I wouldn`t count/interpret to much on the word "community". Who tells you who is part of the "community" or not. Or how he/she should behave. Sooner or later everybody will say that isn`t the "community" I like or want to be a part of because it differs too much from the own definition. Hence it is sometimes not good or wrong to use the word "community" because it push misunderstandings. During reading the thread on a1k.org I also thought if this is the "community" I won`t be part of it. If you would retreat it sure wouldn`t make me happy. I`ve no personal antipathy to you. |
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