Individual Computers - New accelerator cards for A600 & A1200 - Page 90

RMK · 16 February 2011, 14:43

Hi Retro,

Glad you got your card. I have had mine for a month now but have still to install and setup ACA tune. Hopefully the answer to your question will confirm to me what I need to do to set it up.

fitzsteve · 16 February 2011, 14:49

Hi Retrofan!

I find if you make a mistake in the ACATune line then no options set.

Looking at yours I'm not sure you sould have two stars ** after Maprom, I think it should just be one *

All the best,

Steve.

Retrofan · 16 February 2011, 15:31

Thanks fitzsteve. Now I've got:
C:ACATune -maprom * -fastchip on -setchipmem 2048 -fastmem on -z2cache on -chipcache on >NIL:
... and it hangs -black screen-
I deleted -caches on as it was saying it was unknown, and -fastchip on as it was repeated.

fitzsteve · 16 February 2011, 15:51

@Retrofan,

I should have read your sig. Doh! I think since you are using OS3.9 you can't use Maprom unless you a using a Custom Rom that you made up. However if you have a Custom 3.9 Rom ijn a file that you made you can replace * with the path to that Rom file and then it will work.

For now, if you do not have a Custom Rom you should take out Maprom all together.

Then you can ask in forum about making a 3.9 Rom, mfilos is an expert here so should be able to give some advice

Steve.

Retrofan · 16 February 2011, 16:02

Thanks fitzsteve, but now it's running with two ** even.
I've used now the ACATune tool of the floppy instead of the new one of Jens. It seems the latest works with some ACA's, but not with others.

It goes fast as a bullet, I see it faster than the B1260. It opens all before you hear the click of the mouse (faster than sound?...

) I've taked off -setcOmem as it was slowing it, I believe. For the rest it's all activated.

Another thing: Ibrowse hangs. I don't remember it was hanging with the B1260. Let me see it.

fitzsteve · 16 February 2011, 16:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retrofan

Thanks fitzsteve, but now it's running with two ** even.
I've used now the ACATune tool of the floppy instead of the new one of Jens. It seems the latest works with some ACA's, but not with others.

It goes fast as a bullet, I see it faster than the B1260. It opens all before you hear the click of the mouse (faster than sound?...

) I've taked off -setcOmem as it was slowing it, I believe. For the rest it's all activated.

Another thing: Ibrowse hangs. I don't remember it was hanging with the B1260. Let me see it.

Glad you got it working, yeah the ACA really is quick with the ACATune enhancements

I think you're using IBrowse with FPU option, this is why it hangs. Reinstall and choose non FPU option when installing

Oh - and have fun

Steve.

Retrofan · 16 February 2011, 16:20

Thanks, I'll have. Perhaps I've got a little excited telling that comparisons... Well, it has 2,137Mbs speed with sysinfo. That's a lot as I'm (still) not using any Fast-Ata, any Idefix.
Ah, and another thing I was supossing is that I've got more chip ram. Do you remember that photo of my CWB39 with the Full Throttle image? It was showing 1.500.000 of chip ram... a misery. I got more after I installed cyberbugFixAga, around 1.700.000. Now it shows 1.835.928 chip ram

EDIT: I've got a dude: I have around 5 Cf Hd. Can I leave installed the ACATune in all my Cf HD's so I can use them in both Amigas? (Although I won't be able to use FPU Ibrowse)

mfilos · 16 February 2011, 18:56

Just for info... And since I see you have Subway (from your signature)...
Poseidon installation tends to put "LoadModule input.device" as first line in startup-sequence using the default installation.
Since loading the input.device in the memory before ACATune declaration kinda screws the memory, just put it (if you use it) under ACATune or comment it and you'll be fine!

Apart from that, 2x* = mapping 1MB roms, while 1x* = mapping of 512kb roms.

Retrofan · 16 February 2011, 19:39

Thanks Mfilos. I believe I'm going to leave this Amiga without subway by now. What I'm thinking is to put a Fast Ata MKIII, and it will put it's commands in the first line too. I will change them to 2º then. Can I have any problem adding the Fast Ata?

Don't tell me the ACA 1230/56 doesn't run AmigaAmp?

BTW: I've made the trapdoor for it:

mfilos · 16 February 2011, 20:55

You will have a problem with anything that load in memory before the MapROM feature.
If you want MapROM enabled (which you'll want cause speed difference is huge) then you should put ACATune as 1st declaration in Startup-Sequence and everything you want after that

AmigaAMP (that I test yesterday on my A600 with ACA630 told me it requires and FPU... So I guess it will say the same to your installation as well :S
I dunno if there is a method of running AmigaAMP with no FPU but I would like that also to test my MAS-Player (without the MAS-Player program)

Retrofan · 16 February 2011, 21:10

BTW -SetcOmem is necessary for something?

Cammy · 16 February 2011, 21:28

Try this instead of AmigaAmp - http://amigazeux.net/anr/

It uses WinAmp skins just like AmigaAmp and also supports internet radio and podcasts.

mfilos · 16 February 2011, 21:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cammy

Try this instead of AmigaAmp - http://amigazeux.net/anr/

It uses WinAmp skins just like AmigaAmp and also supports internet radio and podcasts.

Thx for the link Cammy. I guess it doesn't support MASPlayer's masmpeg.device though aye?

FOL · 16 February 2011, 23:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfilos

You will have a problem with anything that load in memory before the MapROM feature.
If you want MapROM enabled (which you'll want cause speed difference is huge) then you should put ACATune as 1st declaration in Startup-Sequence and everything you want after that

AmigaAMP (that I test yesterday on my A600 with ACA630 told me it requires and FPU... So I guess it will say the same to your installation as well :S
I dunno if there is a method of running AmigaAMP with no FPU but I would like that also to test my MAS-Player (without the MAS-Player program)

Also dont forget, if using newer ACATune, you need to add p to patch the maprom.

amigakit.com · 17 February 2011, 00:02

@mfilos

In the AmigaAmp directory, there is an alternative executable called AmigaAMP.NoFPU (you will need to Show All Files)

Retrofan · 17 February 2011, 00:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by FOL

Also dont forget, if using newer ACATune, you need to add p to patch the maprom.

Do you mean that I must install the new one again?
If the old is running fine....
BTW IBrowse for 68020 (no FPU) runs great, I'm using it now
And thanks Cammy, I'm going to try it.
EDIT: Well, no, I'll try AmigaAmp no FPU first...Now that I remind, it's true, you've got that option in the AmigaSys menu.

FOL · 17 February 2011, 00:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retrofan

Do you mean that I must install the new one again?
If the old is running fine....
BTW IBrowse for 68020 (no FPU) runs great, I'm using it now
And thanks Cammy, I'm going to try it.

This thread is way to confusing now.

Retrofan · 17 February 2011, 00:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by FOL

This thread is way to confusing now.

You have to read a couple of hours back. I tried the new ACATune and it wasn't working, so I'm with the old.

The AmigaAmp has it's No Fpu icon if you show them all. I changed it's icon even to have the same of the normal AmigaAmp, but it runs bad. I'm going to try the one of Cammy...

EDIT: Tried: I've got two news, one good and one bad... The good is that as Aminet Radio was asking for a guifx.library v18 that CWB39 doesn't have, I plugged the Cf HD of Amigakit where I've got a Ham video while booting, and it was running almost fine without installing ACATune in that Cf even. ... The bad is that after I copied the library in the other Cf Hd, Aminet hanged... won't it work with my ACA?

FOL · 17 February 2011, 01:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retrofan

You have to read a couple of hours back. I tried the new ACATune and it wasn't working, so I'm with the old.

The AmigaAmp has it's No Fpu icon if you show them all. I changed it's icon even to have the same of the normal AmigaAmp, but it runs bad. I'm going to try the one of Cammy...

EDIT: Tried: I've got two news, one good and one bad... The good is that as Aminet Radio was asking for a guifx.library v18 that CWB39 doesn't have, I plugged the Cf HD of Amigakit where I've got a Ham video while booting, and it was running almost fine without installing ACATune in that Cf even. ... The bad is that after I copied the library in the other Cf Hd, Aminet hanged... won't it work with my ACA?

Theres 3 ACATunes now,

Original 1.0, Beta 4 and Beta 5.

desiv · 17 February 2011, 03:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by FOL

Theres 3 ACATunes now,

Original 1.0, Beta 4 and Beta 5.

And including Beta 6? So would that be 4 of them total?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jens

b6 only adds the 42MHz cards to the list of known cards.

desiv

This thread is great, but a web support page might make this easier to track... ;-)

16 February 2011, 16:02	#1785
Retrofan Ruler of the Universe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lanzarote/Spain Posts: 6,189	Thanks fitzsteve, but now it's running with two ** even. I've used now the ACATune tool of the floppy instead of the new one of Jens. It seems the latest works with some ACA's, but not with others. It goes fast as a bullet, I see it faster than the B1260. It opens all before you hear the click of the mouse (faster than sound?...) I've taked off -setcOmem as it was slowing it, I believe. For the rest it's all activated. Another thing: Ibrowse hangs. I don't remember it was hanging with the B1260. Let me see it.

16 February 2011, 16:20	#1787
Retrofan Ruler of the Universe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lanzarote/Spain Posts: 6,189	Thanks, I'll have. Perhaps I've got a little excited telling that comparisons... Well, it has 2,137Mbs speed with sysinfo. That's a lot as I'm (still) not using any Fast-Ata, any Idefix. Ah, and another thing I was supossing is that I've got more chip ram. Do you remember that photo of my CWB39 with the Full Throttle image? It was showing 1.500.000 of chip ram... a misery. I got more after I installed cyberbugFixAga, around 1.700.000. Now it shows 1.835.928 chip ram EDIT: I've got a dude: I have around 5 Cf Hd. Can I leave installed the ACATune in all my Cf HD's so I can use them in both Amigas? (Although I won't be able to use FPU Ibrowse) Last edited by Retrofan; 16 February 2011 at 16:59.

16 February 2011, 19:39	#1789
Retrofan Ruler of the Universe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lanzarote/Spain Posts: 6,189	Thanks Mfilos. I believe I'm going to leave this Amiga without subway by now. What I'm thinking is to put a Fast Ata MKIII, and it will put it's commands in the first line too. I will change them to 2º then. Can I have any problem adding the Fast Ata? Don't tell me the ACA 1230/56 doesn't run AmigaAmp? BTW: I've made the trapdoor for it: Last edited by Retrofan; 16 February 2011 at 21:07.

17 February 2011, 00:02	#1795
amigakit.com Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: www.amigakit.com Posts: 2,025	@mfilos In the AmigaAmp directory, there is an alternative executable called AmigaAMP.NoFPU (you will need to Show All Files) Last edited by amigakit.com; 17 February 2011 at 00:08.

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16 February 2011, 14:43	#1781
RMK Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: UK Posts: 189	Hi Retro, Glad you got your card. I have had mine for a month now but have still to install and setup ACA tune. Hopefully the answer to your question will confirm to me what I need to do to set it up.

16 February 2011, 14:49	#1782
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	Hi Retrofan! I find if you make a mistake in the ACATune line then no options set. Looking at yours I'm not sure you sould have two stars ** after Maprom, I think it should just be one * All the best, Steve.

16 February 2011, 15:31	#1783
Retrofan Ruler of the Universe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lanzarote/Spain Posts: 6,189	Thanks fitzsteve. Now I've got: C:ACATune -maprom * -fastchip on -setchipmem 2048 -fastmem on -z2cache on -chipcache on >NIL: ... and it hangs -black screen- I deleted -caches on as it was saying it was unknown, and -fastchip on as it was repeated.

16 February 2011, 15:51	#1784
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	@Retrofan, I should have read your sig. Doh! I think since you are using OS3.9 you can't use Maprom unless you a using a Custom Rom that you made up. However if you have a Custom 3.9 Rom ijn a file that you made you can replace * with the path to that Rom file and then it will work. For now, if you do not have a Custom Rom you should take out Maprom all together. Then you can ask in forum about making a 3.9 Rom, mfilos is an expert here so should be able to give some advice Steve.

16 February 2011, 18:56	#1788
mfilos Paranoid Amigoid Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Athens/Greece Age: 45 Posts: 1,978	Just for info... And since I see you have Subway (from your signature)... Poseidon installation tends to put "LoadModule input.device" as first line in startup-sequence using the default installation. Since loading the input.device in the memory before ACATune declaration kinda screws the memory, just put it (if you use it) under ACATune or comment it and you'll be fine! Apart from that, 2x* = mapping 1MB roms, while 1x* = mapping of 512kb roms.

16 February 2011, 20:55	#1790
mfilos Paranoid Amigoid Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Athens/Greece Age: 45 Posts: 1,978	You will have a problem with anything that load in memory before the MapROM feature. If you want MapROM enabled (which you'll want cause speed difference is huge) then you should put ACATune as 1st declaration in Startup-Sequence and everything you want after that AmigaAMP (that I test yesterday on my A600 with ACA630 told me it requires and FPU... So I guess it will say the same to your installation as well :S I dunno if there is a method of running AmigaAMP with no FPU but I would like that also to test my MAS-Player (without the MAS-Player program)

16 February 2011, 21:10	#1791
Retrofan Ruler of the Universe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lanzarote/Spain Posts: 6,189	BTW -SetcOmem is necessary for something?

16 February 2011, 21:28	#1792
Cammy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tasmania, Australia Age: 39 Posts: 1,189	Try this instead of AmigaAmp - http://amigazeux.net/anr/ It uses WinAmp skins just like AmigaAmp and also supports internet radio and podcasts.

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