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Old 01 November 2020, 20:38   #161
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i tried both picasso and cgx but they don't work for me.
perhaps it would be useful to add the complete list of tooltypes to be selected with CVision3D to the topic
And just a suggestion.
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Old 01 November 2020, 20:49   #163
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i tried both picasso and cgx but they don't work for me.
perhaps it would be useful to add the complete list of tooltypes to be selected with CVision3D to the topic
And just a suggestion.

In the note in the main thread there is a setting that i change, everything else is default, is strange with Picasso96 driver.
You i try with JIT off , Picasso96 driver 2.0 from aminet and Rom->Advance UAE Expansion boars set "Rom Disable" in winaue set "ROM disable".
Don't use the same installation for picasso96 and CBX, create two separate from scratch.


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4)_For Picasso96 Driver
__A) Download htt*p://aminet.net/driver/video/Picasso96.lha - v2.0
__B) For active 15Bit resolution open Prefs:PVS->Environment->Show Mode set "ALL", save and restart Amiga.
__C) Reset WinUAE
__D) Set resolution 15Bit (S3 Virge in 3D Accelerator support only 15 resolution)

4) _For CyberGraphX v4 from cd, when ask this option must be:
__A) NOPASSTHROUGH=NO (disable card monitor swtich)
__B) ToolType "PASSTHROUGH=YES" In this mode active native / rtg switch from driver. (Piccasso96 is set for default)
__C) Set Dragging=NO (something todo with being compatible with v39 multibuffering)
__D) Before reboot install update CyberGraphX v4.3rc6
__E) Close Winuae and Reopen
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thanks, but I had already read and used these tooltypes.
but it did not serve for the display of ward3D-Demo
I also meant other tooltypes present in CVision3D
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Old 01 November 2020, 21:26   #165
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for example also 2 screenshots like these would be useful
by the way are they correct? :-)

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or those of cgx like these:

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Old 01 November 2020, 22:44   #167
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2 videos with Picasso 96 2.0
WinUAE 4.5 beta 8 on i7 7700 (68040, A4000, 128MB, JIT, S3 Virge Zorro III
https://fb.watch/1uVjd2V1jo/

WinUAE 4.5 beta 8 on Q9950@3200 Mhz (68040, A1200, 128MB, JIT, S3 Virge Zorro II)
https://fb.watch/1uVnLXughQ/
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Old 02 November 2020, 11:11   #168
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thanks for the videos they are interesting
I was referring to the warp3D test:
gears68k small
gears68k window
gears_68k

because to me these rarely start or winuae crashes depending on the type of configuration it seems random.
thanks

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Warp3D test don't work in 15 bit. Only in 24/32 bit, but only in windows and with pink texture. Full screen Gear crash with a "HALT3".
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Thanks, same thing for me it only works at 24 / 32bit with pink colors.
I thought I was doing something wrong :-)
I wasted a lot of time rehearsing
Thanks for the info
While it sometimes works, this time I'll save the dump if it can be useful later.
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for example microbe3D of "thellier" also works
but only with the warp3Dpatch program and other times it also works without this patch.
not sure if it is a pure warp3D program.
But it seems so by reading the readme

https://aminet.net/driver/video/PatchWarp3D.lha
https://aminet.net/util/libs/Microbe3D.lha
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Warp3D test don't work in 15 bit. Only in 24/32 bit, but only in windows and with pink texture. Full screen Gear crash with a "HALT3".
They do work in 15bit. But I also had WB setup where they simply crashed. Another setup works. So it is almost certainly some software conflict. This is exactly the reason I don't really care much unless EXACT same config (=same CF card) does not work in real world.

24/32-bit "working" probably means software 3D, not hardware 3D and most likely it is correct behavior too. Check the log for 3D usage log messages.

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because to me these rarely start or winuae crashes depending on the type of configuration it seems random.
Config, loads and dump if it happens without JIT. Also make sure you don't do any on the fly changes. Test must be: run winuae, load config, start emulation.
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so the right color depth to work on what is 15Bit?
or 24/32bit?
I did not understand the explanation, thanks
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Microbe3D is a pure Warp3D program it dont use minigl nor stormmesa
(but need all picture formats datatypes for loading textures)
I am not sure if it can run on both cybergraphix and picasso96
If you use an old Warp3D that dont have w3d_drawarray() fonction then patchwarp3d may emulate it. But if you use warp3d 4.2 it should (?) be useless
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I don't know which is right. Anything related to Amiga 3D software -> don't ask me. I only said 15-bit works for me (and does use 3D HW)

Also I can't find any mention of 24/32-bit 3D restrictions in Virge datasheet. It even says ARGB1555, ARGB4444 and ARGB8888 textures are supported.
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thanks for the tips

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it works
with 3.xx after using warp3dpatch
it also works on 4.1FE with wazp3d I tried it long ago
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example
without the warp3dpatch nothing is displayed and winuae crashes and restarts

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thanks, but I had already read and used these tooltypes.
but it did not serve for the display of ward3D-Demo
I also meant other tooltypes present in CVision3D
Sure!
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for example also 2 screenshots like these would be useful
by the way are they correct? :-)

Here my screen for Os 3.1
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2 videos with Picasso 96 2.0
WinUAE 4.5 beta 8 on i7 7700 (68040, A4000, 128MB, JIT, S3 Virge Zorro III
https://fb.watch/1uVjd2V1jo/

WinUAE 4.5 beta 8 on Q9950@3200 Mhz (68040, A1200, 128MB, JIT, S3 Virge Zorro II)
https://fb.watch/1uVnLXughQ/

Seiya for the video you use JIT Direct or Indirect.
Thanks.
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