AmigaOne update

Pyromania · 30 May 2002, 13:16

http://www.eyetech.co.uk/amigaone/300502update.php

Sounds very very nice

Twistin'Ghost · 31 May 2002, 05:15

Whoa! Built-in hardware copy-protection for the OS! Still, I can live with that.

Amiga1992 · 01 June 2002, 06:07

*zronk*

02 June 2002, 02:47

Yeah! I hope this will knock our socks of!

And the this people say about "software protection" rulez!
People should get paid for the work and hopefully this os/hw will rock!
things that rocks cost money to develop!

02 June 2002, 11:40

Quote:

And the this people say about "software protection" rulez!
People should get paid for the work and hopefully this os/hw will rock!
things that rocks cost money to develop!

This never works.

andy · 02 June 2002, 16:20

I have to agree with Burseg on this one.

When did other forms of protection (dongles, for example) ever stop cracking?

I'm not against attempting protection (programmers/designers do have to earn a living, after all - much to the surprise of many

); but it does seem a rather futile gesture.

Pyromania · 02 June 2002, 17:35

Quote:

Originally posted by andy
I have to agree with Burseg on this one.

When did other forms of protection (dongles, for example) ever stop cracking?

I'm not against attempting protection (programmers/designers do have to earn a living, after all - much to the surprise of many ); but it does seem a rather futile gesture.

On the SGI locking the SN # of each machine to a licenced version of each application stopped cracking dead.

02 June 2002, 19:46

Then every machine will have a serial number, and every user. Then big brother will watch us.

jmmijo · 21 June 2002, 05:11

Not sure how accurate this is, but apparently this US dealer is taking pre-orders on the Amiga One mobo:

http://www.compuquick-amigadirect.co...migas&cart_id=

The text says available soon, not sure how soon this really is however

Bloodwych · 06 July 2002, 22:26

A nice little article, one of the many promoting the Amiga One:

Read Here

jmmijo · 06 July 2002, 22:36

Well an interesting article, but mainly a hopeful Amiga addict, like most of us

My local dealer has told me about October/November and I'm saying more like next year at the soonest

I suppose I shouldn't be so pessimistic, but I can't help it :hoo

Bloodwych · 06 July 2002, 23:04

Quote:

Originally posted by jmmijo
Well an interesting article, but mainly a hopeful Amiga addict, like most of us

Yep, and like us, he'll eventually end up here where he will finally find peace and goodwill. So says the Amiga preacher brothers of the EAB.

jmmijo · 06 July 2002, 23:07

So should we call ourselves:

The Black Sheep Amiga Enthusiasts

Bloodwych · 06 July 2002, 23:13

Quote:

Originally posted by jmmijo
So should we call ourselves:

The Black Sheep Amiga Enthusiasts

LOL :laugh

That kind of has a ring to it! Seriously! I feel a webpage coming on! An upwelling of Amiga Faith EAB'ers!

jmmijo · 06 July 2002, 23:16

I was kinda thinking of the article and the author and how he has lost his way and then wham.... I was thinking of Black Sheep Squadron, both the TV series and the real Naval Aviators in WWII

Bloodwych · 06 July 2002, 23:37

Quote:

Originally posted by jmmijo
I was kinda thinking of the article and the author and how he has lost his way and then wham.... I was thinking of Black Sheep Squadron, both the TV series and the real Naval Aviators in WWII

Funny things brains aren’t they? Never quite know where they're gonna lead you.

jmmijo · 06 July 2002, 23:46

Yeah, just look at this thread now and how OT it has become :laugh

Shatterhand · 17 August 2002, 06:50

I've been just told that AmigaONE is arleady out for the suppliers. The guy also told me you will be able to connect your A1200 to the Amigaone mobo and use the dedicate A1200 chips with it.. (!?!?!!?!?!) This would be like an A1200 running a G3@600Mhz

Now this was in an MSX channel (the #msx channel at irc.afternet.org , only for brazilian users, I guess).. so I came here to ask the guys who KNOW stuff..

Is this true ?

Amiga1992 · 17 August 2002, 06:57

Quote:

Originally posted by Shatterhand
I've been just told that AmigaONE is arleady out for the suppliers. The guy also told me you will be able to connect your A1200 to the Amigaone mobo and use the dedicate A1200 chips with it.. (!?!?!!?!?!) This would be like an A1200 running a G3@600Mhz

It would actually be an AmigaOne with the biggest, stupidest expansion card ever

.

If the custom chips were not surface mounted I bet they would have made a card where you could snap out the chips off your Amiga and put them inside the AmigaOne. That would have been smart.

Anyway... I stick with my A1200.

Korodny · 17 August 2002, 17:41

@Shatterhand:

Quote:

I've been just told that AmigaONE is arleady out for the suppliers.

That's not true. While the AmigaOne hardware is finished for months and working perfectly, the Softex BIOS that was supplied with the machines was extremely buggy and outdated. A third party that was contracted to work on the BIOS (update it, make it compatible with Amiga standards like Amiga formatted hard disks) simply failed to do their job. Currently Hyperion are porting and adopting the open source BIOS PPCBoot to the AmigaOne while adding some very cool functionality (mainly boring low-level stuff, no need to further explain that) along the way.

Work on the BIOS is nearly completed (currently it is under heavy testing). BIOS should be finished at the end of this month.

Quote:

The guy also told me you will be able to connect your A1200 to the Amigaone mobo and use the dedicate A1200 chips with it.. (!?!?!!?!?!) This would be like an A1200 running a G3@600Mhz

The original plan looks (looked, see below) like this:

A PCI card that fits into one of the A1's PCI slots. A ribbon cable connects this PCI card to the A1200 motherboard. The A1200 acts as an expansion to the A1, important Chipset register addresses are "mirrored" in the A1's memory. This way, software directly hitting the custom chip registers would work on the A1 (you would have to connect a monitor to the A1200's video/audio ports of course) and you could access A1200 ports from AmigaOS4 (joyports, floppy disk drive).

Escena were supposed to develop the PCI card. But to be honest, nobody in the OS4/AmigaOne development team expects them to deliver this hardware...

Alternatives:

1. DFx

An adapter that is plugged between a standard AmigaOne/PC floppy disk controller and the disk drive. Enables the host computer to read/write standard Amiga floppy disks. Will (should) work with Amithlon, AmigaOne, Windows (given proper software support of course).

2. CatweaselPCI

Jens Schönfeld is working on a PCI version of the Catweasel. A multi purpose disk controller, which is able to read virtually any disk format you throw at it (CBM 5 1/4"PC, 5 1/4", Apple DD, Amiga etc.)

3. USB to 9-Pin digital joyport adaptors

Seems I lost the URL..

4. UAE

5. Elbox's SharkPPC G3/G4 accelerator cards for classic Amiga machines

While the Shark cards are a licensed design (i.e. they are working in Apple computers already), the integration with classic hardware is pretty tricky. Let's wait and see if Elbox manage to solve all related problems. Would be cool, of course.

@Akira:

Quote:

It would actually be an AmigaOne with the biggest, stupidest expansion card ever .

Right, but isn't that the kind of obscure concept that appeals to you?

30 May 2002, 13:16	#1
Pyromania Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 3,375	AmigaOne update http://www.eyetech.co.uk/amigaone/300502update.php Sounds very very nice

02 June 2002, 02:47	#4
k0w Posts: n/a	re: sound realy great Yeah! I hope this will knock our socks of! And the this people say about "software protection" rulez! People should get paid for the work and hopefully this os/hw will rock! things that rocks cost money to develop!

21 June 2002, 05:11	#9
jmmijo Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: PDX Age: 62 Posts: 2,395	Another Update Not sure how accurate this is, but apparently this US dealer is taking pre-orders on the Amiga One mobo: http://www.compuquick-amigadirect.co...migas&cart_id= The text says available soon, not sure how soon this really is however

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31 May 2002, 05:15	#2
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 33 Posts: 4,662	Whoa! Built-in hardware copy-protection for the OS! Still, I can live with that.

01 June 2002, 06:07	#3
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	zronk

02 June 2002, 16:20	#6
andy Back. Join Date: May 2002 Location: UK Posts: 121	I have to agree with Burseg on this one. When did other forms of protection (dongles, for example) ever stop cracking? I'm not against attempting protection (programmers/designers do have to earn a living, after all - much to the surprise of many ); but it does seem a rather futile gesture.

02 June 2002, 19:46	#8
oldpx Posts: n/a	Then every machine will have a serial number, and every user. Then big brother will watch us.

06 July 2002, 22:26	#10
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	A nice little article, one of the many promoting the Amiga One: Read Here

06 July 2002, 22:36	#11
jmmijo Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: PDX Age: 62 Posts: 2,395	Well an interesting article, but mainly a hopeful Amiga addict, like most of us My local dealer has told me about October/November and I'm saying more like next year at the soonest I suppose I shouldn't be so pessimistic, but I can't help it :hoo

06 July 2002, 23:07	#13
jmmijo Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: PDX Age: 62 Posts: 2,395	So should we call ourselves: The Black Sheep Amiga Enthusiasts

06 July 2002, 23:16	#15
jmmijo Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: PDX Age: 62 Posts: 2,395	I was kinda thinking of the article and the author and how he has lost his way and then wham.... I was thinking of Black Sheep Squadron, both the TV series and the real Naval Aviators in WWII

06 July 2002, 23:46	#17
jmmijo Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: PDX Age: 62 Posts: 2,395	Yeah, just look at this thread now and how OT it has become :laugh

17 August 2002, 06:50	#18
Shatterhand Warhasneverbeensomuchfun Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro / Brazil Age: 41 Posts: 3,450	I've been just told that AmigaONE is arleady out for the suppliers. The guy also told me you will be able to connect your A1200 to the Amigaone mobo and use the dedicate A1200 chips with it.. (!?!?!!?!?!) This would be like an A1200 running a G3@600Mhz Now this was in an MSX channel (the #msx channel at irc.afternet.org , only for brazilian users, I guess).. so I came here to ask the guys who KNOW stuff.. Is this true ?

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