The upcoming EAB's Database - Page 7

§ane · 25 July 2001, 01:14

yup, i'ma big fan of Dr Who!

a small update on screenshots WinUAE
after some time searching i found the source project for WinUAE 8.8 r8 [ http://www.codepoet.com/UAE/winuae088src.zip ] suprisingly the link is still valid..

and i've just started on the image saving code.. might have something basic working tommorow.. *maybe*

"Would you like a Jelly Baby?"

icycool · 25 July 2001, 05:10

Hehe!!!
Tom Baker R0X!
;-))

Mangar · 25 July 2001, 11:00

Well Its nearly 5am and I just stumbled along this thread. Forgive me for not reading all the messages. I'm damn tired.. lol

I'd just like to say I've already agreed to help in any way I can.

A few things on my tired mind at the moment. What classifies a game as being commercial? Sold in stores? And why not include some PD titles? Some of the classics for amigas are not commercial. If a game is the absolute FULL version it should be included.

As for allowing the general public to add to this database. Maybe you should think about the Amount of work it would be to verify each and every piece of software that is added. If you're already going through the trouble of verifying the information just do it yourself from the beginning. Allow the general public to put forward a game TITLE and thats it. Would save them and us some time in my opinion.

We should start small and add more to it as time goes on. Use Warlock's list of games.. get them in the database.. then add to it.. Putting restrictions on the games based on how they were marketed would just complicate matters.. We dont need to start off with EVERY known title.. but I'd rather have to skip the step of deciding if a game should be included or not.. All games should get in there eventually.. Just start with what we have from the list..

I know I havent been around much lately.. Summer is a busy time.. hehe.. still plugging away with cafe..

last note.. Cafe and this database can co-exist.. Cafe is a launcher.. this is a database.. what I'm working on is just the database.. so as long as a database is created it still helps out Cafe or any other project that would extract its info from a database.. So, I'll be throwing my efforts fully into RCK's project.. It all achieves the same result..

CodyJarrett · 25 July 2001, 11:28

The database has evolved. See the following thread:

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?threadid=820

Also, the problem with using Warlock's list is that it is a listing of ADFs, so if that was the basis for a database, we wouldn't have to add to it, we would have to change and remove more!

Yes, folks, getting information from the filenames of ADFs is the most unreliable method in the world, ever. Better to start from scratch and work upwards.

Mangar · 30 July 2001, 12:35

Oh.. didnt know you had a list.. doesnt really matter which list is used.. just start with a list and build once those are done.. the changes look good..

BippyM · 18 November 2001, 17:11

Is this still going ahead?

The last post was a few months ago?

RCK · 18 November 2001, 17:26

We are in the last phase of the dev !

The AGD (Amiga Games Database) is now much much bigger and complete than the first objective of this thread.

The beta-test is going well, and the public release will be "when it's done"

BippyM · 18 November 2001, 17:33

Oh! Thats excellent, roughly how big is it at the moment?
and how long to public release?

Cheers

icycool · 18 November 2001, 17:40

no clue, it sure is taking awhile... ?

RCK · 18 November 2001, 17:49

- The struture of the base is finished.
- The admin interface is done at 90%.
- The public interface is done at 50%.

I'm currently working days & night on this

Expect one public release at the end of this year ?
(if we have enough data in it

)

RCK · 18 November 2001, 18:04

Okay dudes, here are some screenshots of the admin interface.
(the place where moderators will enter all the Database informations).

We are working, but the project is big and we need time.
What you would like to see is the ultimate Amiga Game Database no ?

"when it's done"

Codetapper · 19 November 2001, 01:53

Firstly I apologise for not having time to read this entire thread so if this is a stupid question, sorry!

Rather than just a HD flag, I would like to know what kind of HD installer it is:

1. WHDLoad (the best type!)
2. JST
3. Games own HD installer (and often can't quit back to WB)
4. Other

The Other category relates to some games which have been spread where somebody simply dos copies the files and calls the game HD installed. The lamer BodyCount did a lot of these HD versions which don't actually work. His funniest was Barbarian/Palace in which the game loads "mathtrans.library" and decrypts it as the main game. BodyCount thought it's just a library so deleted it and spread the game. So it never did or will run. Quite a lot of other groups have done HD fixes for certain versions of games with variable reliability aswell (eg. Fix Ltd)

Some games like Zool 2 AGA come with a HD installer on disk 2 and also a WHDLoad/JST installer so tick boxes would be useful in these cases. I always trust a WHDLoad install over the games own one in these cases.

Any comments?

Twistin'Ghost · 19 November 2001, 04:10

The admin interface actually has fields for WHD, JST and HD (other) and even fields for notes on these install methods. In the notes, for example, we could mention if an original is required, registered WHD required, latest version number of patch, author of patch, etc.

CodyJarrett · 19 November 2001, 11:03

I've added all the WHDLoad information to my part of the database, for example:

WHD-Codetapper-v1.1

Information like this is best as a text field.

View Poll Results: Will you help us to fill the Database ?
Yes, I will	21	75.00%
No, sorry	0	0%
Maybe ...	7	25.00%
Voters: 28. You may not vote on this poll

25 July 2001, 01:14	#121
§ane Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: . Age: 44 Posts: 246	yup, i'ma big fan of Dr Who! a small update on screenshots WinUAE after some time searching i found the source project for WinUAE 8.8 r8 [ http://www.codepoet.com/UAE/winuae088src.zip ] suprisingly the link is still valid.. and i've just started on the image saving code.. might have something basic working tommorow.. maybe "Would you like a Jelly Baby?" Attached Thumbnails

25 July 2001, 11:28	#124
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,160	Database The database has evolved. See the following thread: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?threadid=820 Also, the problem with using Warlock's list is that it is a listing of ADFs, so if that was the basis for a database, we wouldn't have to add to it, we would have to change and remove more! Yes, folks, getting information from the filenames of ADFs is the most unreliable method in the world, ever. Better to start from scratch and work upwards.

18 November 2001, 17:11	#126
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	Still Going? Is this still going ahead? The last post was a few months ago?

18 November 2001, 18:04	#131
RCK Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Paris / France Age: 45 Posts: 3,086	Okay dudes, here are some screenshots of the admin interface. (the place where moderators will enter all the Database informations). We are working, but the project is big and we need time. What you would like to see is the ultimate Amiga Game Database no ? "when it's done" Attached Thumbnails

25 July 2001, 05:10	#122
icycool Banned Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Melbourne/Australia Age: 50 Posts: 203	Hehe!!! Tom Baker R0X! ;-))

25 July 2001, 11:00	#123
Mangar Got the fever back Join Date: May 2001 Location: Toronto / Canada Age: 52 Posts: 288	Well Its nearly 5am and I just stumbled along this thread. Forgive me for not reading all the messages. I'm damn tired.. lol I'd just like to say I've already agreed to help in any way I can. A few things on my tired mind at the moment. What classifies a game as being commercial? Sold in stores? And why not include some PD titles? Some of the classics for amigas are not commercial. If a game is the absolute FULL version it should be included. As for allowing the general public to add to this database. Maybe you should think about the Amount of work it would be to verify each and every piece of software that is added. If you're already going through the trouble of verifying the information just do it yourself from the beginning. Allow the general public to put forward a game TITLE and thats it. Would save them and us some time in my opinion. We should start small and add more to it as time goes on. Use Warlock's list of games.. get them in the database.. then add to it.. Putting restrictions on the games based on how they were marketed would just complicate matters.. We dont need to start off with EVERY known title.. but I'd rather have to skip the step of deciding if a game should be included or not.. All games should get in there eventually.. Just start with what we have from the list.. I know I havent been around much lately.. Summer is a busy time.. hehe.. still plugging away with cafe.. last note.. Cafe and this database can co-exist.. Cafe is a launcher.. this is a database.. what I'm working on is just the database.. so as long as a database is created it still helps out Cafe or any other project that would extract its info from a database.. So, I'll be throwing my efforts fully into RCK's project.. It all achieves the same result..

30 July 2001, 12:35	#125
Mangar Got the fever back Join Date: May 2001 Location: Toronto / Canada Age: 52 Posts: 288	Oh.. didnt know you had a list.. doesnt really matter which list is used.. just start with a list and build once those are done.. the changes look good..

18 November 2001, 17:26	#127
RCK Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Paris / France Age: 45 Posts: 3,086	We are in the last phase of the dev ! The AGD (Amiga Games Database) is now much much bigger and complete than the first objective of this thread. The beta-test is going well, and the public release will be "when it's done"

18 November 2001, 17:33	#128
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	Oh! Thats excellent, roughly how big is it at the moment? and how long to public release? Cheers

18 November 2001, 17:40	#129
icycool Banned Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Melbourne/Australia Age: 50 Posts: 203	no clue, it sure is taking awhile... ?

18 November 2001, 17:49	#130
RCK Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Paris / France Age: 45 Posts: 3,086	- The struture of the base is finished. - The admin interface is done at 90%. - The public interface is done at 50%. I'm currently working days & night on this Expect one public release at the end of this year ? (if we have enough data in it )

19 November 2001, 01:53	#132
Codetapper 2 contact me: email only! Join Date: May 2001 Location: Auckland / New Zealand Posts: 3,182	HD installs Firstly I apologise for not having time to read this entire thread so if this is a stupid question, sorry! Rather than just a HD flag, I would like to know what kind of HD installer it is: 1. WHDLoad (the best type!) 2. JST 3. Games own HD installer (and often can't quit back to WB) 4. Other The Other category relates to some games which have been spread where somebody simply dos copies the files and calls the game HD installed. The lamer BodyCount did a lot of these HD versions which don't actually work. His funniest was Barbarian/Palace in which the game loads "mathtrans.library" and decrypts it as the main game. BodyCount thought it's just a library so deleted it and spread the game. So it never did or will run. Quite a lot of other groups have done HD fixes for certain versions of games with variable reliability aswell (eg. Fix Ltd) Some games like Zool 2 AGA come with a HD installer on disk 2 and also a WHDLoad/JST installer so tick boxes would be useful in these cases. I always trust a WHDLoad install over the games own one in these cases. Any comments?

19 November 2001, 04:10	#133
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 33 Posts: 4,662	The admin interface actually has fields for WHD, JST and HD (other) and even fields for notes on these install methods. In the notes, for example, we could mention if an original is required, registered WHD required, latest version number of patch, author of patch, etc.

19 November 2001, 11:03	#134
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,160	I've added all the WHDLoad information to my part of the database, for example: WHD-Codetapper-v1.1 Information like this is best as a text field.

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