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Old 30 July 2010, 12:56   #1
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usb wrapper

hi,

maybe some usb wrapper could be added to be used with poseidon (eueusb.device ...)
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Old 30 July 2010, 21:02   #2
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USB "wrapper" would be extremely complex and difficult task.

Why? Mass storage devices work without usb support, network does not need usb, input devices don't need usb support etc..
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Old 30 July 2010, 22:11   #3
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I would like to use my USB scanner through uaescsi.device ...

Or a generic Betascan driver for Windows scanners: uaescanner.device (Not TWAIN, there must be something else in Windows, because the "Wizard for Scanners and Cameras" (free translation from German; wiaacmgr.exe) can scan without opening the TWAIN GUI.)
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Sorry for that , was not me who wrote that....probably my daughter who played with the PC...sorry again
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Someone played with your PC too...probably...
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I would like to use my USB scanner through uaescsi.device ...

Or a generic Betascan driver for Windows scanners: uaescanner.device (Not TWAIN, there must be something else in Windows, because the "Wizard for Scanners and Cameras" (free translation from German; wiaacmgr.exe) can scan without opening the TWAIN GUI.)
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USB "wrapper" would be extremely complex and difficult task.

Why? Mass storage devices work without usb support, network does not need usb, input devices don't need usb support etc..

I'm intrigued too.... why would you want to use a scanner in winUAE ?

I could almost (and I say *almost*) see the point of usb on a Real Amiga.... but UAE pardon me but I'm confused.

Surely it is easier to scan / manipulate in winblows and then import your pix into your emulated Amiga in winuae ? (you can set up your winuae to do this y'know, with a 'PC' folder - just drop the file into it once you have scanned)

or would that be too simple ?

I get that there are some mind squiffing things you can do on real Amigas... and the ability to connect USB scanners/cameras is probably one of them. But USB support in an EMULATOR ?

I genuinely don't understand the request. Or maybe I do, but I still cant see why you would want to... unless you are talking about doing everything in a WinUAE environment (i.e. using it as a "windows replacement") And having AMIGA OS do all your stuff.... which IMHO is bordering on madness.
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Surely it is easier to scan / manipulate in winblows and then import your pix into your emulated Amiga in winuae ?
No, it's the other way round. Amiga scanning Software, especially Scanquix, is much better than everything you get for Windows. It allows much more control over what is scanned and how. *Before* scanning begins.

I once started to write a Scanquix-like frontend for Betascan, but it would be much easier if I could do this in WinUAE.
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Amiga scanning Software, especially Scanquix, is much better than everything you get for Windows. It allows much more control over what is scanned and how. *Before* scanning begins.
Thanks for that, Thomas!

Now I know why requests for Amiga scanner drivers still pop up from time to time!
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USB "wrapper" would be extremely complex and difficult task.

Why? Mass storage devices work without usb support, network does not need usb, input devices don't need usb support etc..
i'm working on scanner software for morphos and aros. This wrapper could be useful for testing 68k port and drivers' port. Poseidon source code is located in aros archives.

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Old 09 August 2010, 23:27   #12
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Has anyone considered doing a USB over IP driver for Poseidon? Imagine the possibilities, direct access to USB devices even from Amigas that have no USB hardware attached
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Emulating SCSI scanner protocol probably isn't too difficult but afaik there is no good enough scanner API in Windows.. TWAIN probably sucks too much.

Emulating image file as an uaescsi.device virtual scanner unit is probably very pointless
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Emulating SCSI scanner protocol probably isn't too difficult but afaik there is no good enough scanner API in Windows.. TWAIN probably sucks too much.
So, it's not just the name that isn't interesting, then.
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Maybe now, after releasing Thylacine specs, WinUAE could get some usb card emulation?
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Old 06 January 2015, 13:54   #16
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No. You still need Windows driver to be able to access any real USB devices in low level.

Unless you want mostly pointless USB emulation that emulates for example hdf image as a virtual USB memory stick or USB HD or Windows supported mouse or joystick or keyboard as virtual USB input device.
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When using Windows XP Mode for example in Windows 7, it uses a USB virtualization driver which enables communication directly between the VM and the USB device. It is then disconnected from the host OS. I guess this is what needs to be used?
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Yep, VirtualBox has EHCI support and it works in Windows.
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