Apollo 040 SCSI-II controller

XDelusion · 01 November 2011, 00:03

I have an Apollo 040 with SCSI controller for my A1200. Since I've owned this I have not owned any SCSI devices till now. Now I'm wondering if I need any software to get this up and running, or will I simply need to plug in my hardware, install and configure ASIMCDFS (since it's a CD-ROM) and use it to my hearts content?

roy bates · 01 November 2011, 09:57

the disk you are looking for is on the "eab file server".

also ive heard this unit isent the best in the world,its not dma and a few harddisks and cdroms dont work with it apparently.

good luck.

also is there any chance of a picture(these things are rarer than hens teeth)

clauddio · 01 November 2011, 10:45

for hardisks you do not need any software
for cdrom I recommend idefix97...connect the cdrom and use idefix installer ...it will find the cdrom and configure automatically
btw, cdrom speed is like ide
hardisk speed on apollo scsi controller is around 4 or 5mb /second max....depends of the hardisk
anyways it's a bit faster than internal ide on the A1200

XDelusion · 02 November 2011, 06:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by roy bates

the disk you are looking for is on the "eab file server".

also ive heard this unit isent the best in the world,its not dma and a few harddisks and cdroms dont work with it apparently.

good luck.

also is there any chance of a picture(these things are rarer than hens teeth)

What disk are you talking about?

Also, I uploaded images here:

http://www.amiga.org/forums/album.ph...&pictureid=826

http://www.amiga.org/forums/album.ph...&pictureid=825

http://www.amiga.org/forums/album.ph...&pictureid=824

roy bates · 02 November 2011, 09:29

nevermind clauddio is right,it shows up in idefix97.

XDelusion · 02 November 2011, 23:38

On my list for things to test tonight.

Thankx all!

XDelusion · 06 November 2011, 21:44

idefix97 is commercial and requires registration. Also installing it did not do a thing for my situation.

Can someone provide me a link to the original software that came with this hardware please?

THank you!

roy bates · 06 November 2011, 21:50

you can still register idefix97,i have the codes.

plus you dont need to register it for it to recognise the scsi devise.

XDelusion · 06 November 2011, 22:00

It installed all kinds of devices into my DEVs directory, none of which are the SCSI.DEVICE I'm looking for.

My SCSI Cd-ROm is set to Unit 5, so I edited the ATAPI.DEVICE to mirror my set up, but that was to no avail.

I'm at a loss, what should I do? I've not messed with SCSI in about 20 years...

roy bates · 06 November 2011, 22:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by XDelusion

It installed all kinds of devices into my DEVs directory, none of which are the SCSI.DEVICE I'm looking for.

My SCSI Cd-ROm is set to Unit 5, so I edited the ATAPI.DEVICE to mirror my set up, but that was to no avail.

I'm at a loss, what should I do? I've not messed with SCSI in about 20 years...

when you use idefix97,look for the apollo scsi in the search field on installing the cdrom.

EDIT:- the device you are qouting is the ide interface
EDIT2:-i think the device is called 1230scsi.devise or something like that (its been a long time since ive use one of these)

XDelusion · 06 November 2011, 22:15

Ya... that's the thing. I didn't see a mention of the Apollo at all, and I only turned to the IDE interface because of the lack of supported Apollo devices...

I'll have a second look when I got home. Perhaps I just over looked something.

roy bates · 06 November 2011, 22:22

yep i think you missed it somehow it shows on mine and i dont have scsi on both of my cards.(the driver is in the apollo rom)on boot up.

XDelusion · 06 November 2011, 22:47

I just downloaded the archive again and looked through the files...

There is nothing there with the word Apollo attached to it.

I believe I found the original Apollo 040 Install disc on the EAB server. It was under MISC and has an Apollo SCSI device. I'm going to try that one tonight.

stachu100 · 07 November 2011, 00:17

I think you need this:
http://www.l8r.net/install/accel/apollo060.DMS
I cannot look inside the content at the moment, but I remember there was something about SCSI as well. Check this please.

XDelusion · 07 November 2011, 00:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by stachu100

I think you need this:
http://www.l8r.net/install/accel/apollo060.DMS
I cannot look inside the content at the moment, but I remember there was something about SCSI as well. Check this please.

Thankx, I'll look into this disk image as well. I've got a card I need to mail out to you soon as well...

...if only my damn car would stop breaking down. :/

zipper · 07 November 2011, 10:09

Dirty translation of the Lies_Mich (readme)

Dear customer, Apollo!

This document presents information on the new 5.0 version of Apollo.

-------------------------------------------------- ----------------------

* Routines to transfer 68040/68060 processors optimized

* CD-ROM access is now at full speed and interrupt capability

* Workbench install:
To install the Workbensch partition and format
Install your disk with Apollo. Then do a reset
and boot up your 'installer' software. With this you can then
Installing the Workbench to perform individually.

The direct installation with Apollo-Install is no longer possible.
Since this is intended only for the Workbench V1.3 and V2.0 versions, was
which are already obsolete in the meantime, should this not
Represent restriction.

* AmigaDOS uses signed 32-bit pointer for addressing
of storage media. Thus, a device has a maximum capacity of
Have 2 GB. To connect more disks can still be
this in 2 GB chunks 'broken', then the individual plates as
be treated. These pieces can then use the device number
be distinguished.

Example:
---------
4.5 GB hard disk with, connected as unit number 1 is displayed as:
- 2 GB disk with unit number one
- 2 GB disk with unit number 11
- 500 MB disk with 21 Umitnummer

* Connection of CD-ROM drives:
For the operation of a CD-ROM drive, you need a CD-ROM driver,
e.g. the Aminet CD-ROM drivers (Public Domain).
You also need to create a suitable mount list entry.
As assistance is included on this disk model
Mount List Entry. Please note the double hyphen in
the 'startup'-line (' SCSI - Apollo.device ')

* Apollo tools:
-------------
* SCSI Speed
This can be for each unit in retrospect, the transmission
adjust speed. Normally, the Apollo software
this automatically at boot time. If, however, in devices with
Operating transmission errors occur, then the speed
be changed using 'SCSI Speed'.

NOTE: If you put a slow speed device, this can
result in data loss!

SYNTAX: SCSI Speed <Unit-Nr> <SPEED>; Speed: 0 = slow
1 = medium
2 = fast

* AT-Speed - ditto for the AT-Apollo2000 part of the controller

* SCSI Int
Allows for each device - regardless of the setting
RDB - set the use of interrupts when transferring
be. This only applies to data transmission, the system
interrupts are not affected.

SYNTAX: SCSI Int <Unit-Nr> <0 / 1>, 0 = Interrups to
1 = interrupts (polling BUSY)

01 November 2011, 00:03	#1
XDelusion Alien Breeder Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NW Ohio Posts: 276	Apollo 040 SCSI-II controller I have an Apollo 040 with SCSI controller for my A1200. Since I've owned this I have not owned any SCSI devices till now. Now I'm wondering if I need any software to get this up and running, or will I simply need to plug in my hardware, install and configure ASIMCDFS (since it's a CD-ROM) and use it to my hearts content?

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01 November 2011, 09:57	#2
roy bates Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: birmingham Age: 55 Posts: 2,827	the disk you are looking for is on the "eab file server". also ive heard this unit isent the best in the world,its not dma and a few harddisks and cdroms dont work with it apparently. good luck. also is there any chance of a picture(these things are rarer than hens teeth)

01 November 2011, 10:45	#3
clauddio Banned Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Saturn Age: 52 Posts: 279	for hardisks you do not need any software for cdrom I recommend idefix97...connect the cdrom and use idefix installer ...it will find the cdrom and configure automatically btw, cdrom speed is like ide hardisk speed on apollo scsi controller is around 4 or 5mb /second max....depends of the hardisk anyways it's a bit faster than internal ide on the A1200

02 November 2011, 09:29	#5
roy bates Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: birmingham Age: 55 Posts: 2,827	nevermind clauddio is right,it shows up in idefix97.

02 November 2011, 23:38	#6
XDelusion Alien Breeder Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NW Ohio Posts: 276	On my list for things to test tonight. Thankx all!

06 November 2011, 21:44	#7
XDelusion Alien Breeder Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NW Ohio Posts: 276	idefix97 is commercial and requires registration. Also installing it did not do a thing for my situation. Can someone provide me a link to the original software that came with this hardware please? THank you!

06 November 2011, 21:50	#8
roy bates Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: birmingham Age: 55 Posts: 2,827	you can still register idefix97,i have the codes. plus you dont need to register it for it to recognise the scsi devise.

06 November 2011, 22:00	#9
XDelusion Alien Breeder Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NW Ohio Posts: 276	It installed all kinds of devices into my DEVs directory, none of which are the SCSI.DEVICE I'm looking for. My SCSI Cd-ROm is set to Unit 5, so I edited the ATAPI.DEVICE to mirror my set up, but that was to no avail. I'm at a loss, what should I do? I've not messed with SCSI in about 20 years...

06 November 2011, 22:15	#11
XDelusion Alien Breeder Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NW Ohio Posts: 276	Ya... that's the thing. I didn't see a mention of the Apollo at all, and I only turned to the IDE interface because of the lack of supported Apollo devices... I'll have a second look when I got home. Perhaps I just over looked something.

06 November 2011, 22:22	#12
roy bates Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: birmingham Age: 55 Posts: 2,827	yep i think you missed it somehow it shows on mine and i dont have scsi on both of my cards.(the driver is in the apollo rom)on boot up.

06 November 2011, 22:47	#13
XDelusion Alien Breeder Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NW Ohio Posts: 276	I just downloaded the archive again and looked through the files... There is nothing there with the word Apollo attached to it. I believe I found the original Apollo 040 Install disc on the EAB server. It was under MISC and has an Apollo SCSI device. I'm going to try that one tonight.

07 November 2011, 00:17	#14
stachu100 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Poland Posts: 339	I think you need this: http://www.l8r.net/install/accel/apollo060.DMS I cannot look inside the content at the moment, but I remember there was something about SCSI as well. Check this please.

07 November 2011, 10:09	#16
zipper Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: finland Posts: 1,837	Dirty translation of the Lies_Mich (readme) Dear customer, Apollo! This document presents information on the new 5.0 version of Apollo. -------------------------------------------------- ---------------------- * Routines to transfer 68040/68060 processors optimized * CD-ROM access is now at full speed and interrupt capability * Workbench install: To install the Workbensch partition and format Install your disk with Apollo. Then do a reset and boot up your 'installer' software. With this you can then Installing the Workbench to perform individually. The direct installation with Apollo-Install is no longer possible. Since this is intended only for the Workbench V1.3 and V2.0 versions, was which are already obsolete in the meantime, should this not Represent restriction. * AmigaDOS uses signed 32-bit pointer for addressing of storage media. Thus, a device has a maximum capacity of Have 2 GB. To connect more disks can still be this in 2 GB chunks 'broken', then the individual plates as be treated. These pieces can then use the device number be distinguished. Example: --------- 4.5 GB hard disk with, connected as unit number 1 is displayed as: - 2 GB disk with unit number one - 2 GB disk with unit number 11 - 500 MB disk with 21 Umitnummer * Connection of CD-ROM drives: For the operation of a CD-ROM drive, you need a CD-ROM driver, e.g. the Aminet CD-ROM drivers (Public Domain). You also need to create a suitable mount list entry. As assistance is included on this disk model Mount List Entry. Please note the double hyphen in the 'startup'-line (' SCSI - Apollo.device ') * Apollo tools: ------------- * SCSI Speed This can be for each unit in retrospect, the transmission adjust speed. Normally, the Apollo software this automatically at boot time. If, however, in devices with Operating transmission errors occur, then the speed be changed using 'SCSI Speed'. NOTE: If you put a slow speed device, this can result in data loss! SYNTAX: SCSI Speed <Unit-Nr> <SPEED>; Speed: 0 = slow 1 = medium 2 = fast * AT-Speed - ditto for the AT-Apollo2000 part of the controller * SCSI Int Allows for each device - regardless of the setting RDB - set the use of interrupts when transferring be. This only applies to data transmission, the system interrupts are not affected. SYNTAX: SCSI Int <Unit-Nr> <0 / 1>, 0 = Interrups to 1 = interrupts (polling BUSY)

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