Return to Atlantis YES worky

21 January 2002, 01:50

Has anyone gotten Return to Atlantis to work? If so how and in what emulator?
I've tried everything...

andreas · 21 January 2002, 03:15

BAD LUCK MAN.

I also tried everything and I can say there are various problems with various emulators, some of them mutually exclusive.

WinUAE:
Everything works fine, unless you forgot to put Disk 2 in DF1: ! The game will cause the emulator to crash (GURU) if you change the disk in the game!
Saving doesn't work at all! I tried it with both a standard ADF and a custom one on old WinUAE versions (standard only, though) and new WinUAE (both). No way.

And this is ESSENTIAL: without ID disk you can't go on.

WinFellow:
Works up to the Workbench but ... since WinFellow doesn't handle Soft Reset correctly yet, the game can't be played!
Game invokes a soft reset when double clicking the "DIVE" icon. This causes WinFellow to hang completely. (But unlike WinUAE, you can still work with your Windows system afterwards and you don't have to reboot

)

Sorry ... no good news (yet).

21 January 2002, 03:34

Hey, thanks for coming to my aid again, Andreas! Guess We'll just have to wait for the emulator writers to gain some more ground. But why is it that the games I reeeaaaalllly care about are the ones that don't work yet...
Is it just me or?

Twistin'Ghost · 21 January 2002, 08:34

Unfortunately, the old E/A games have always been a major pain for emulation, but often they were just as buggered on any upgraded Amiga. I guess the best solution is to find original versions that we can image for the WHD team (who seem to have their hands full as it is...)

Fred the Fop · 21 January 2002, 15:08

If youse rememebr, old EA games were hell on any Megadrive/Genesis version besides the first one.

Twistin'Ghost · 21 January 2002, 17:11

How do those games fare on Sega emulation?

Ian · 21 January 2002, 23:52

Quote:

Originally posted by RocketMack
Hey, thanks for coming to my aid again, Andreas! Guess We'll just have to wait for the emulator writers to gain some more ground.

Hmm, maybe not, I seem to remember helping someone with this game some time ago, probably in my AEN days, could someone upload the disk/s again so I can have a fudge around with it and see what I can do.

No promises mind, I might be thinking of a different game entirely

22 January 2002, 06:54

OK Ian! I've uploaded Return to Atlantis in the Zone again. Twistin gave me one set and I found another out in space. It's been cracked by some team and it gets to the black screen past workbench.
Thanks to all concerned...

DPainter · 22 January 2002, 07:55

Quote:

Originally posted by RocketMack
OK Ian! I've uploaded Return to Atlantis in the Zone again. Twistin gave me one set and I found another out in space. It's been cracked by some team and it gets to the black screen past workbench.
Thanks to all concerned...

I dumped an original that seems to work fine under WinUAE+KS1.2+512kb, with save disk and all. I used LockPick v2 to remove the "key disk check" protection on Disk 2. Let me know if you want this in the Zone or if you just need to try different settings.

Twistin'Ghost · 22 January 2002, 08:00

Did you have to try it in NTSC or did it work in PAL, as well?

DPainter · 22 January 2002, 08:05

Quote:

Originally posted by Twistin' Ghost
Did you have to try it in NTSC or did it work in PAL, as well?

Well, I first tested it with NTSC checked, but I just tested it without NTSC checked and it works the same, although I only went to the ID disk request.

Ian · 22 January 2002, 21:22

The version in the zone works.

config:-

Kick 1.2, 512k chip & 512k slow, 68000, slow but more compatable mode (May not be needed, but I always use it anyway

).

As far as the log disk is concerened I just use the same disk the game uses.

I'll test it with more config's later, but the version in the zone right now, uploaded by RocketMack works.

After more testing:-

It appears (To me anyway) the game doesn't like working with loads of extra (Possibly technically illegal) memory, for instance I use the config above and it works fine with kick 1.2 & 1.3 without any problems (including disk swapping) but the minute I try to use my normal config (ie 8mb chip mem w/kick 1.3) the soft reset doesn't work, it's just keeps on going back to workbench, I supect it's an error with (Win)UAE, but don't quote me on that

Anyway, it works so you should all send large amounts of cash to my address

MethodGit · 22 January 2002, 22:27

OK, I'll send you 50p in the post...

:laugh

23 January 2002, 02:19

Bravo gentlemen! Again I thank you all. This little episode has convinced me to learn more about Winuae. Up to this point I have shunned extensive use of it, but getting Return to Atlantis to work is more than enough motivation.
I can see that it's going to be a long night...
LamerMack over and out!

andreas · 23 January 2002, 08:03

Well I said I did already get it to work in WinUAE before, provided that both disks are in the drives.
But I couldn't save!
Ian, how did you handle this ID disk thing?

Ian · 23 January 2002, 21:53

Quote:

Originally posted by Ian
As far as the log disk is concerened I just use the same disk the game uses.

Meaning, use the original game disk. It appears I called it a log disk instead of ID disk, sorry you couldn't figure out what I meant.

and

Quote:

Originally posted by Ian
it works fine with kick 1.2 & 1.3 without any problems (including disk swapping)

Meaning, it works even if you don't insert both disk's into DF0: and DF1: respectively.

andreas · 23 January 2002, 22:23

Quote:

Meaning, use the original game disk. It appears I called it a log disk instead of ID disk, sorry you couldn't figure out what I meant.

OR USE A COPY!

Of course, damnit! Thanks Ian! Why didn't I have this idea before?
I bet you five to one that the original manual suggests to COPY the disk and use the copy as an ID disk ...

- makes sense, so you can preserve the original CRC of the original disk, leaving it unmodified...

Hacky · 18 May 2006, 07:45

Hello

I just tried 3 different versions of the game *I found* but I was unable to start the game withe UAE (latest Version). The softreset/game start doesn´t work for me.

I think I need a different version...

21 January 2002, 01:50	#1
RocketMack Posts: n/a	Return to Atlantis no worky Has anyone gotten Return to Atlantis to work? If so how and in what emulator? I've tried everything...

21 January 2002, 03:15	#2
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	Hrmph... BAD LUCK MAN. I also tried everything and I can say there are various problems with various emulators, some of them mutually exclusive. WinUAE: Everything works fine, unless you forgot to put Disk 2 in DF1: ! The game will cause the emulator to crash (GURU) if you change the disk in the game! Saving doesn't work at all! I tried it with both a standard ADF and a custom one on old WinUAE versions (standard only, though) and new WinUAE (both). No way. And this is ESSENTIAL: without ID disk you can't go on. WinFellow: Works up to the Workbench but ... since WinFellow doesn't handle Soft Reset correctly yet, the game can't be played! Game invokes a soft reset when double clicking the "DIVE" icon. This causes WinFellow to hang completely. (But unlike WinUAE, you can still work with your Windows system afterwards and you don't have to reboot ) Sorry ... no good news (yet).

22 January 2002, 21:22	#12
Ian Global Moderator Join Date: May 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 46 Posts: 2,287	The version in the zone works. config:- Kick 1.2, 512k chip & 512k slow, 68000, slow but more compatable mode (May not be needed, but I always use it anyway). As far as the log disk is concerened I just use the same disk the game uses. I'll test it with more config's later, but the version in the zone right now, uploaded by RocketMack works. After more testing:- It appears (To me anyway) the game doesn't like working with loads of extra (Possibly technically illegal) memory, for instance I use the config above and it works fine with kick 1.2 & 1.3 without any problems (including disk swapping) but the minute I try to use my normal config (ie 8mb chip mem w/kick 1.3) the soft reset doesn't work, it's just keeps on going back to workbench, I supect it's an error with (Win)UAE, but don't quote me on that Anyway, it works so you should all send large amounts of cash to my address Last edited by Ian; 22 January 2002 at 23:02.

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21 January 2002, 03:34	#3
RocketMack Posts: n/a	Hey, thanks for coming to my aid again, Andreas! Guess We'll just have to wait for the emulator writers to gain some more ground. But why is it that the games I reeeaaaalllly care about are the ones that don't work yet... Is it just me or?

21 January 2002, 08:34	#4
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 33 Posts: 4,662	Unfortunately, the old E/A games have always been a major pain for emulation, but often they were just as buggered on any upgraded Amiga. I guess the best solution is to find original versions that we can image for the WHD team (who seem to have their hands full as it is...)

21 January 2002, 15:08	#5
Fred the Fop flaming faggot Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Versailles Age: 55 Posts: 2,808	If youse rememebr, old EA games were hell on any Megadrive/Genesis version besides the first one.

21 January 2002, 17:11	#6
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 33 Posts: 4,662	How do those games fare on Sega emulation?

22 January 2002, 06:54	#8
RocketMack Posts: n/a	OK Ian! I've uploaded Return to Atlantis in the Zone again. Twistin gave me one set and I found another out in space. It's been cracked by some team and it gets to the black screen past workbench. Thanks to all concerned...

22 January 2002, 08:00	#10
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 33 Posts: 4,662	Did you have to try it in NTSC or did it work in PAL, as well?

22 January 2002, 22:27	#13
MethodGit Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Streets Age: 39 Posts: 2,731	OK, I'll send you 50p in the post... :laugh

23 January 2002, 02:19	#14
RocketMack Posts: n/a	Bravo gentlemen! Again I thank you all. This little episode has convinced me to learn more about Winuae. Up to this point I have shunned extensive use of it, but getting Return to Atlantis to work is more than enough motivation. I can see that it's going to be a long night... LamerMack over and out!

23 January 2002, 08:03	#15
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	Well I said I did already get it to work in WinUAE before, provided that both disks are in the drives. But I couldn't save! Ian, how did you handle this ID disk thing?

18 May 2006, 07:45	#18
Hacky Zone Friend Join Date: May 2006 Location: Berlin Age: 53 Posts: 89	Hello I just tried 3 different versions of the game I found but I was unable to start the game withe UAE (latest Version). The softreset/game start doesn´t work for me. I think I need a different version...

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