Worms: The Director's Cut crashes on basic A1200

Jonathan Drain · 01 February 2010, 05:34

I was delighted to find Worms: the Director's Cut for free download, but it gurus at the loading screen on an unexpanded 2MB A1200 (real or emulated). Same thing happens whether I use patched or patched version, boot from Workbench or floppy.

Works fine in WinUAE if I add more RAM, but I don't have that option on the real Amiga.

Any ideas?

dlfrsilver · 01 February 2010, 11:06

i own the game in original, and it works on a real A1200 with 2 mb bog standard.

Maybe you have a disk drive problem ?

StingRay · 01 February 2010, 11:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

i own the game in original, and it works on a real A1200 with 2 mb bog standard.

Notice that he is speaking about the director's cut version of Worms. And I just tried it in UAE and it crashes for me too with 2MB Chip only.

Kitty · 01 February 2010, 11:20

Did you try this?

Worms - The Directors Cut Patch Disk (ADF)

The patch disk, on its own. Updates your copy of WormsDC to v1.05 and fixes minor bugs. This disk is included in the above ADF bundle but not in the IPF bundle, so you'll need this if you've chosen to download the IPF version of the game.

http://www.dream17.co.uk/softography...34&s=downloads

Predseda · 01 February 2010, 11:21

I have the original DC package, I could try to boot it with accelerator disabled.

StingRay · 01 February 2010, 11:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitty

Did you try this?

Worms - The Directors Cut Patch Disk (ADF)

I booted exactly that version.

Predseda · 01 February 2010, 11:30

BTW original Worms had a memory problem with unexpanded A1200. You had to boot without startup-sequence, if you wanted to play from HDD, otherwise you were unable to leave the options screen.

dlfrsilver · 01 February 2010, 13:34

That is normal. this game requires 1,5mb of ram on HDD.

Jonathan Drain · 01 February 2010, 18:42

Aha, Worms TDC seems to have a problem when WinUAE has three disk drives enabled. The CHIPRAM cheat shows ~38,000 to ~42,000 bytes free when only DF0 is enabled, and ~3,000 bytes free when DF1 is enabled. It gurus when DF2 is enabled also. Patched or unpatched runs fine emulated with one disk drive.

I'd still like to run it from hard disk. I've tried disabling floppy drive and booting without startup sequence, but it still gurus when loading. I also tried making a boot disk with a startup-sequence that simply runs Worms from the HD, but when Worms loads I just get a blank screen. Am I barking up the wrong tree?

Photon · 01 February 2010, 18:44

I had the same problem with Worms DC.

btw, I think the first version I had (floppies for A500) only had English samples which were funny, and now it sounds strange to hear other samples. Which version am I looking for? Is it in WHDload?

StingRay · 01 February 2010, 18:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Drain

Aha, Worms TDC seems to have a problem when WinUAE has three disk drives enabled. The CHIPRAM cheat shows ~38,000 to ~42,000 bytes free when only DF0 is enabled, and ~3,000 bytes free when DF1 is enabled. It gurus when DF2 is enabled also. Patched or unpatched runs fine emulated with one disk drive.

Strange, disabling all external drives was the first I tried and it still crashed. Nice to hear it works for you though.

Jonathan Drain · 02 February 2010, 00:19

Got it working from HD!

I made a copy of WormsDC disk 1 and changed the startup-sequence to point to the hard disk executable. I used this as a boot disk. To try and save more RAM I created the directory df0:env/ and changed the startup-sequence to point there instead of ram:env (I don't know if this has any effect).

This was enough for the emulator, where WormsDC loads with 20K chip to spare.

I managed to get it working by deleting some TWMOUNTAINS files from the HD install. You can delete all but DEFAULT.MNT, and the only drawback is that Hell looks silly with the default mountains.

Photon · 02 February 2010, 02:50

If someone knows which version I mean, please advise, would be nice to have the version I had tons of fun with vs friends

A1200 is temporarily offline so I can't check if the WHDload version is that one.

Jonathan Drain · 03 February 2010, 00:44

Photon: The original Worms had English voices, unless you mean a different set of voices than that. Some people released custom voice sets, including the CU Amiga voice set which included worms that said "Game over, man!" when they explode. Is that the one you mean?

01 February 2010, 05:34	#1
Jonathan Drain Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sector K240 Posts: 338	Worms: The Director's Cut crashes on basic A1200 I was delighted to find Worms: the Director's Cut for free download, but it gurus at the loading screen on an unexpanded 2MB A1200 (real or emulated). Same thing happens whether I use patched or patched version, boot from Workbench or floppy. Works fine in WinUAE if I add more RAM, but I don't have that option on the real Amiga. Any ideas?

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01 February 2010, 11:06	#2
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,497	i own the game in original, and it works on a real A1200 with 2 mb bog standard. Maybe you have a disk drive problem ?

01 February 2010, 11:20	#4
Kitty Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London UK Posts: 1,532	Did you try this? Worms - The Directors Cut Patch Disk (ADF) The patch disk, on its own. Updates your copy of WormsDC to v1.05 and fixes minor bugs. This disk is included in the above ADF bundle but not in the IPF bundle, so you'll need this if you've chosen to download the IPF version of the game. http://www.dream17.co.uk/softography...34&s=downloads

01 February 2010, 11:21	#5
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,557	I have the original DC package, I could try to boot it with accelerator disabled.

01 February 2010, 11:30	#7
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,557	BTW original Worms had a memory problem with unexpanded A1200. You had to boot without startup-sequence, if you wanted to play from HDD, otherwise you were unable to leave the options screen.

01 February 2010, 13:34	#8
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,497	That is normal. this game requires 1,5mb of ram on HDD.

01 February 2010, 18:42	#9
Jonathan Drain Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sector K240 Posts: 338	Aha, Worms TDC seems to have a problem when WinUAE has three disk drives enabled. The CHIPRAM cheat shows ~38,000 to ~42,000 bytes free when only DF0 is enabled, and ~3,000 bytes free when DF1 is enabled. It gurus when DF2 is enabled also. Patched or unpatched runs fine emulated with one disk drive. I'd still like to run it from hard disk. I've tried disabling floppy drive and booting without startup sequence, but it still gurus when loading. I also tried making a boot disk with a startup-sequence that simply runs Worms from the HD, but when Worms loads I just get a blank screen. Am I barking up the wrong tree?

01 February 2010, 18:44	#10
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,642	I had the same problem with Worms DC. btw, I think the first version I had (floppies for A500) only had English samples which were funny, and now it sounds strange to hear other samples. Which version am I looking for? Is it in WHDload?

02 February 2010, 00:19	#12
Jonathan Drain Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sector K240 Posts: 338	Got it working from HD! I made a copy of WormsDC disk 1 and changed the startup-sequence to point to the hard disk executable. I used this as a boot disk. To try and save more RAM I created the directory df0:env/ and changed the startup-sequence to point there instead of ram:env (I don't know if this has any effect). This was enough for the emulator, where WormsDC loads with 20K chip to spare. I managed to get it working by deleting some TWMOUNTAINS files from the HD install. You can delete all but DEFAULT.MNT, and the only drawback is that Hell looks silly with the default mountains.

02 February 2010, 02:50	#13
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,642	If someone knows which version I mean, please advise, would be nice to have the version I had tons of fun with vs friends A1200 is temporarily offline so I can't check if the WHDload version is that one.

03 February 2010, 00:44	#14
Jonathan Drain Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sector K240 Posts: 338	Photon: The original Worms had English voices, unless you mean a different set of voices than that. Some people released custom voice sets, including the CU Amiga voice set which included worms that said "Game over, man!" when they explode. Is that the one you mean?

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