Adebug Amiga

oldbrain · 04 January 2018, 11:25

Hello all, as mentioned I'm looking for adebug.

I have it on atari st but no way to find the amiga version.
I read somewhere the source included in the pack over the net just needed to be assemble with the amiga flag on, but unfortunately some further files are missing.
Any help would be apreciated

Cheers !

kamelito · 04 January 2018, 13:51

Did you tried google?
I used it quite a lot back in the day, I even did a review for it but I'll have to dig my backup to see if it is still there.
IIRC it was only 24bit as it stored data on the upper bits.

oldbrain · 04 January 2018, 15:45

Hey Kamelito, yeah i tried google but nothing possitive.
Strange it's so hard to find it for amiga.
I still use it on atari st and it's the best from far.

emufan · 04 January 2018, 18:26

I found ADebug on a disk magazine, with the help of Stone Oakvalley's SOTDS.
zone: magazynamiga_cd01_ma38.dms
in the CLI folder.

StingRay · 04 January 2018, 18:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by emufan

I found ADebug on a disk magazine, with the help of Stone Oakvalley's SOTDS.
zone: magazynamiga_cd01_ma38.dms
in the CLI folder.

That's not the ADebug he's looking for. What he needs is the Amiga version of a pretty powerful Atari debugger.

emufan · 04 January 2018, 18:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by StingRay

That's not the ADebug he's looking for. What he needs is the Amiga version of a pretty powerful Atari debugger.

I was about to add to my post, not sure if this is/was the right one :/

kamelito · 04 January 2018, 19:14

The source code for the record.
It says that Assemble was also available on the Amiga, I never saw it.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/adebug/

kamelito · 04 January 2018, 20:02

amlabel.s is missing, it may worth asking the authors.
I'm going to wrote them an email asking for this and the exes if they've them.

oldbrain · 05 January 2018, 08:57

Thanks guys for your help.
As you mentioned Kamelito amlabel.s is missing.

At time I remember, I saw Alex (the author) developing adebug on amiga, so for sure it
exists.

kamelito · 05 January 2018, 18:04

I know it exist as I used it back in the day, I was writing about "Assemble".
I just got a reply from the author of the Amiga version, he will upload the missing file to github.
Assemble was never ported to the Amiga, but the command line assembler exist and the author is looking for the source code.

oldbrain · 05 January 2018, 18:14

Great news Kamelito, thanks a lot for your help.

I never used 'Assemble', nor tried it. I'm on depvac for too long to change

Strange to me, as an Atari user, that it's so hard to get adebug on amiga.

I wonder which debugger crackers were using at this time.

kamelito · 05 January 2018, 18:32

On The Amiga I guess the Action Replay was used for that even if monitors like Adebug exist on the Amiga. I let others like Stingray or Galahad complete this question.
What I like about Adebug is that it is low level and that is is working like Monam. (Equivalent of MonST)

oldbrain · 05 January 2018, 18:40

action replay ?? i can't believe serious crackers were working with that tool

veper · 05 January 2018, 18:56

Why wouldn't they?

oldbrain · 05 January 2018, 19:19

simply because saving memory is not cracking.

At time the most important was the chalenge, and the set was debugger, assembler and your brain.

Any skilly cracker stands more than 100 action replay in his mind.

StingRay · 05 January 2018, 19:35

Lots of people used cartridges for cracking. And hardware debuggers (which is the same) are not uncommon on Atari either.

oldbrain · 06 January 2018, 08:21

On atari st, there was a cartridge callled 'ultilmate ripper', never used it.

The guys i knew at time never used this kind of tool.

veper · 06 January 2018, 22:59

In the very beginning that was true, but later competition forced groups to be the first with a release. Noone cared anymore how something was cracked (ie. tools used), as long as it was quick.

kamelito · 07 January 2018, 14:28

I was able to build an iso of a CD backup of my A3000 unfortunately Adebug wasn't there.
I found Sherlock disassembler which is I think even rarer than Adebug to find. http://obligement.free.fr/articles/sherlock.php
Maybe it is sitting in my A3000 HD but it has been ages since I powered it. I don't even have the HW to transfer it to PC same with floppies.
We will have to wait the author to get it.

oldbrain · 07 January 2018, 20:53

Thanks again Kamelito, let's wait so.

04 January 2018, 11:25	#1
oldbrain Registered User Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: france Posts: 10	Adebug Amiga Hello all, as mentioned I'm looking for adebug. I have it on atari st but no way to find the amiga version. I read somewhere the source included in the pack over the net just needed to be assemble with the amiga flag on, but unfortunately some further files are missing. Any help would be apreciated Cheers !

05 January 2018, 18:14	#11
oldbrain Registered User Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: france Posts: 10	Great news Kamelito, thanks a lot for your help. I never used 'Assemble', nor tried it. I'm on depvac for too long to change Strange to me, as an Atari user, that it's so hard to get adebug on amiga. I wonder which debugger crackers were using at this time. Last edited by oldbrain; 05 January 2018 at 18:22.

07 January 2018, 14:28	#19
kamelito Zone Friend Join Date: May 2006 Location: France Posts: 1,801	I was able to build an iso of a CD backup of my A3000 unfortunately Adebug wasn't there. I found Sherlock disassembler which is I think even rarer than Adebug to find. http://obligement.free.fr/articles/sherlock.php Maybe it is sitting in my A3000 HD but it has been ages since I powered it. I don't even have the HW to transfer it to PC same with floppies. We will have to wait the author to get it. Last edited by kamelito; 07 January 2018 at 14:33.

04 January 2018, 13:51	#2
kamelito Zone Friend Join Date: May 2006 Location: France Posts: 1,801	Did you tried google? I used it quite a lot back in the day, I even did a review for it but I'll have to dig my backup to see if it is still there. IIRC it was only 24bit as it stored data on the upper bits.

04 January 2018, 15:45	#3
oldbrain Registered User Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: france Posts: 10	Hey Kamelito, yeah i tried google but nothing possitive. Strange it's so hard to find it for amiga. I still use it on atari st and it's the best from far.

04 January 2018, 18:26	#4
emufan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: #DrainTheSwamp Posts: 4,545	I found ADebug on a disk magazine, with the help of Stone Oakvalley's SOTDS. zone: magazynamiga_cd01_ma38.dms in the CLI folder.

04 January 2018, 19:14	#7
kamelito Zone Friend Join Date: May 2006 Location: France Posts: 1,801	The source code for the record. It says that Assemble was also available on the Amiga, I never saw it. https://sourceforge.net/projects/adebug/

04 January 2018, 20:02	#8
kamelito Zone Friend Join Date: May 2006 Location: France Posts: 1,801	amlabel.s is missing, it may worth asking the authors. I'm going to wrote them an email asking for this and the exes if they've them.

05 January 2018, 08:57	#9
oldbrain Registered User Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: france Posts: 10	Thanks guys for your help. As you mentioned Kamelito amlabel.s is missing. At time I remember, I saw Alex (the author) developing adebug on amiga, so for sure it exists.

05 January 2018, 18:04	#10
kamelito Zone Friend Join Date: May 2006 Location: France Posts: 1,801	I know it exist as I used it back in the day, I was writing about "Assemble". I just got a reply from the author of the Amiga version, he will upload the missing file to github. Assemble was never ported to the Amiga, but the command line assembler exist and the author is looking for the source code.

05 January 2018, 18:32	#12
kamelito Zone Friend Join Date: May 2006 Location: France Posts: 1,801	On The Amiga I guess the Action Replay was used for that even if monitors like Adebug exist on the Amiga. I let others like Stingray or Galahad complete this question. What I like about Adebug is that it is low level and that is is working like Monam. (Equivalent of MonST)

05 January 2018, 18:40	#13
oldbrain Registered User Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: france Posts: 10	action replay ?? i can't believe serious crackers were working with that tool

05 January 2018, 18:56	#14
veper EAB fan Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Slovenia Posts: 29	Why wouldn't they?

05 January 2018, 19:19	#15
oldbrain Registered User Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: france Posts: 10	simply because saving memory is not cracking. At time the most important was the chalenge, and the set was debugger, assembler and your brain. Any skilly cracker stands more than 100 action replay in his mind.

05 January 2018, 19:35	#16
StingRay move.l #$c0ff33,throat Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Berlin/Joymoney Posts: 6,863	Lots of people used cartridges for cracking. And hardware debuggers (which is the same) are not uncommon on Atari either.

06 January 2018, 08:21	#17
oldbrain Registered User Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: france Posts: 10	On atari st, there was a cartridge callled 'ultilmate ripper', never used it. The guys i knew at time never used this kind of tool.

06 January 2018, 22:59	#18
veper EAB fan Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Slovenia Posts: 29	In the very beginning that was true, but later competition forced groups to be the first with a release. Noone cared anymore how something was cracked (ie. tools used), as long as it was quick.

07 January 2018, 20:53	#20
oldbrain Registered User Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: france Posts: 10	Thanks again Kamelito, let's wait so.

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