Chaos Engine Speedball II ECS Vs AGA

Deaths_Head · 12 October 2012, 18:21

Was it just me, but did anyone else find the upgraded colour palette on the AGA systems ugly compared to the original ECS versions.

Djay · 12 October 2012, 18:25

Yeah I much prefer the older colour schemes for both...

Do you mean speedball 2 on cd32?

Deaths_Head · 12 October 2012, 18:35

Yeah Speedball 2 CD32 looks ugly as hell. I presumed speedball 2 came out on A1200 but ive just realised it was CD32 only

Dastardly · 12 October 2012, 18:44

Yeah, I always preferred the colours of the non AGA versions. A lot more subtle.

Deaths_Head · 12 October 2012, 18:51

Wonder if its possible to Change the graphics in the CD32 version of Chaos Engine back to the ECS, keeping the intro and CD sound etc.

lilalurl · 12 October 2012, 19:03

Speedball II CD32 I found ugly at first sight.

CE AGA is more bearable. ECS version is perfectly fine. The "enhancements" of the AGA version have never struck me as horrible but I could also live without. Well, can't really make my mind

.

Djay · 12 October 2012, 19:06

Although I prefer AGA enhancements on Alien Breed Tower Assault

TCD · 12 October 2012, 19:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilalurl

CE AGA is more bearable. ECS version is perfectly fine. The "enhancements" of the AGA version have never struck me as horrible but I could also live without. Well, can't really make my mind

.

I'll just quote you and pretend that I said that

CE OCS is perfectly fine and the AGA version doesn't ruin it (like Speedball 2 CD32 does...). They decently used the colours to enhance the AGA version of CE while keeping the 'mood/atmosphere' of the graphics.

Deaths_Head · 12 October 2012, 19:12

Yeah, Team 17 seemed to have had a better handle on the expanded capabilities of the AGA machines

Retro-Nerd · 12 October 2012, 19:16

ECS Version, just like Chaos Engine. The AGA version reminds me of too coloured Japanese console games.

Deaths_Head · 12 October 2012, 19:30

Yeah, you're right i think they tried to appeal to the console kids.

Djay · 12 October 2012, 20:02

The megadrive has the ECS version and Snes has the AGA version? With some subtle differences to the 'Hud'...

fishyfish · 14 October 2012, 03:29

Yep, I agree.
Its like they added extra color just because they could, without trying to actually improve graphics quality.
Maybe trying to squeeze a few extra sales by releasing an "AGA version" and needed to have it look a little different to justify calling them AGA games.

clauddio · 14 October 2012, 06:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishyfish

Yep, I agree.
Its like they added extra color just because they could, without trying to actually improve graphics quality.
Maybe trying to squeeze a few extra sales by releasing an "AGA version" and needed to have it look a little different to justify calling them AGA games.

nope you are wrong...they do not added extra colors
the original game is AGA and original graphics were done in 256 colors....they degraded the graphics to 32 colors to make the ECS version

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deaths_Head

Was it just me, but did anyone else find the upgraded colour palette on the AGA systems ugly compared to the original ECS versions.

The AGA palette of chaos engine is not ugly it have more colors and is vivid /strong colors....plus the AGA palette is the original one...read my previous reply to fishyfish
The original Amiga chipset is not capable of those vivid and strong colors but AGA yes

fishyfish · 14 October 2012, 07:34

No, Im not wrong.
To be wrong I'd ave to have said it was the case. I didnt. I said "it's like".
Either way Im still sceptical that theyd have been making a game for aga before aga existed (development appears to stem back to '91).

Im almost tempted to say, "No, you're wrong", but I wont.

C.E.2 started out as AGA, C.E. 1, I strongly doubt it.
Incidently C.E.2 isnt 256 colors either.

Retro-Nerd · 14 October 2012, 07:56

Chaos Engine 1 is an original OCS/ECS game, the AGA release was a few month later.

s2325 · 14 October 2012, 08:58

normal colors:

tarnish colors:

normal colors:

revive colors:

TCD · 14 October 2012, 11:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by clauddio

nope you are wrong...they do not added extra colors
the original game is AGA and original graphics were done in 256 colors....they degraded the graphics to 32 colors to make the ECS version

I wonder where you get all those (wrong) information from?

Graham Humphrey · 14 October 2012, 11:19

I am absolutely certain that the game was being developed long before AGA was available so I see no way that could have been developed first...

TCD · 14 October 2012, 11:25

http://amr.abime.net/review_2944
10 months later.

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12 October 2012, 18:25	#2
Djay 95th User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Brighton/UK Age: 48 Posts: 3,120	Yeah I much prefer the older colour schemes for both... Do you mean speedball 2 on cd32?

12 October 2012, 18:35	#3
Deaths_Head Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: cheadle Age: 48 Posts: 108	Yeah Speedball 2 CD32 looks ugly as hell. I presumed speedball 2 came out on A1200 but ive just realised it was CD32 only

12 October 2012, 18:44	#4
Dastardly Into the Wonderful Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: England Age: 49 Posts: 2,335	Yeah, I always preferred the colours of the non AGA versions. A lot more subtle.

12 October 2012, 18:51	#5
Deaths_Head Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: cheadle Age: 48 Posts: 108	Wonder if its possible to Change the graphics in the CD32 version of Chaos Engine back to the ECS, keeping the intro and CD sound etc.

12 October 2012, 19:03	#6
lilalurl Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: France Posts: 3,289	Speedball II CD32 I found ugly at first sight. CE AGA is more bearable. ECS version is perfectly fine. The "enhancements" of the AGA version have never struck me as horrible but I could also live without. Well, can't really make my mind .

12 October 2012, 19:06	#7
Djay 95th User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Brighton/UK Age: 48 Posts: 3,120	Although I prefer AGA enhancements on Alien Breed Tower Assault

12 October 2012, 19:12	#9
Deaths_Head Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: cheadle Age: 48 Posts: 108	Yeah, Team 17 seemed to have had a better handle on the expanded capabilities of the AGA machines

12 October 2012, 19:16	#10
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,438	ECS Version, just like Chaos Engine. The AGA version reminds me of too coloured Japanese console games.

12 October 2012, 19:30	#11
Deaths_Head Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: cheadle Age: 48 Posts: 108	Yeah, you're right i think they tried to appeal to the console kids.

12 October 2012, 20:02	#12
Djay 95th User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Brighton/UK Age: 48 Posts: 3,120	The megadrive has the ECS version and Snes has the AGA version? With some subtle differences to the 'Hud'...

14 October 2012, 03:29	#13
fishyfish Banned Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Australia Posts: 475	Yep, I agree. Its like they added extra color just because they could, without trying to actually improve graphics quality. Maybe trying to squeeze a few extra sales by releasing an "AGA version" and needed to have it look a little different to justify calling them AGA games.

14 October 2012, 07:34	#15
fishyfish Banned Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Australia Posts: 475	No, Im not wrong. To be wrong I'd ave to have said it was the case. I didnt. I said "it's like". Either way Im still sceptical that theyd have been making a game for aga before aga existed (development appears to stem back to '91). Im almost tempted to say, "No, you're wrong", but I wont. C.E.2 started out as AGA, C.E. 1, I strongly doubt it. Incidently C.E.2 isnt 256 colors either.

14 October 2012, 07:56	#16
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,438	Chaos Engine 1 is an original OCS/ECS game, the AGA release was a few month later.

14 October 2012, 08:58	#17
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	normal colors: tarnish colors: normal colors: revive colors:

14 October 2012, 11:19	#19
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	I am absolutely certain that the game was being developed long before AGA was available so I see no way that could have been developed first...

14 October 2012, 11:25	#20
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,532	http://amr.abime.net/review_2944 10 months later.

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