Garrison I & II

29 April 2003, 19:38

Is anybody working on this install?

This game even don't work on a real A500 with 1MB.....

and it's my favourite amiga game.....so I play on WinUAe...

Thanks!!

IFW · 30 April 2003, 00:35

See our wip why it may not work if original...
www.caps-project.org

...but if anyone is willing to do the scans, most of you know what happens next

Psygore · 30 April 2003, 00:39

Do you have originals disks ?

30 April 2003, 01:20

Infortunately I haven't the original disks

killergorilla · 02 May 2003, 14:53

I have the original disks for garrison.

And I'm sure it worked on my A500 with the ram expansion.

No, I'm definate it did.

I'll soon be dumping all my games for CAPS, so if the whdload team want an mfm version I can only say yes.

Just need to get hold of a zip drive for my PC....

Galahad/FLT · 02 May 2003, 17:07

Garrison.... MFMwarped, I'll take em !

Galahad/FLT · 09 May 2003, 13:54

WHDLoad version is underway.

Bizarrely wasteful MFM Protection system on disk two, its format is smaller than a normal DOS format?!?!?!

IFW · 09 May 2003, 20:56

Yes, 4096 bytes per track. Probably the same with the format of another platform.

andreas · 09 May 2003, 21:03

Atari? (guessing)
A couple of Amiga games used Atari format.

IFW · 09 May 2003, 21:34

No.

Galahad/FLT · 10 May 2003, 15:50

MSX

IFW · 10 May 2003, 16:14

Galahad/FLT · 10 May 2003, 16:16

Quote:

Originally posted by IFW
Yes, 4096 bytes per track. Probably the same with the format of another platform.

It's actually 4404 bytes per track (including Checksum longword) for Garrison but thats me being picky!

IFW · 10 May 2003, 16:29

Being picky, eh...?

The data track structure is:

2 marks, byte A1 bit robbed.
1 ID word $FFFF
1 EDC, Xor32 on decoded data layer of area 3:

area 3:
1 Track ID long
4096 data bytes

The rest is don't care/fake.

That is 8216 bytes mfm encoded, or 4108 bytes.

Galahad/FLT · 10 May 2003, 16:33

I was talking about decoded data as used by the game!

On another note, have you checked out the MFM system for Nevermind/Psyclapse?

No matter what I do, the imaging process for this game is so goddamed slow!

IFW · 10 May 2003, 16:42

I don't remember how the data is being used... but it is certainly encoded/recorded the way I wrote it

Some games seem to make some kind of sport of misrepresenting their real data structure.

Afair Nevermind is not dumped by anyone - caps guys feel free to correct me...

If it gets dumped I will take a look into the problem

Slayer · 04 August 2003, 15:59

This I like to see! I remember all those years ago when
I sent Bert 20 American I enquired whether someone was
planning an Install for Garrison.

I actually brought the game twice, a mate of mine took
it away one day after assuring me he could copy it
safely (why did I agree? :P) he returned a few days
later with a pirated version which I discovered no
longer allowed individual character representation if
I remember rightly.

Good luck with the install... I only managed to back
it up once with cyclone... because the second version
must have been slightly different.

Yikes! I'll be banned for spamming shortly if I don't
watch it, new and lippy!

*grin*

adios!

29 April 2003, 19:38	#1
verdure Posts: n/a	Garrison I & II Is anybody working on this install? This game even don't work on a real A500 with 1MB..... and it's my favourite amiga game.....so I play on WinUAe... Thanks!!

02 May 2003, 17:07	#6
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,986	... Garrison.... MFMwarped, I'll take em !

09 May 2003, 13:54	#7
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,986	Garrison WHDLoad version is underway. Bizarrely wasteful MFM Protection system on disk two, its format is smaller than a normal DOS format?!?!?!

10 May 2003, 15:50	#11
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,986	... MSX

10 May 2003, 16:33	#15
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,986	... I was talking about decoded data as used by the game! On another note, have you checked out the MFM system for Nevermind/Psyclapse? No matter what I do, the imaging process for this game is so goddamed slow!

30 April 2003, 00:35	#2
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 52 Posts: 1,838	See our wip why it may not work if original... www.caps-project.org ...but if anyone is willing to do the scans, most of you know what happens next

30 April 2003, 00:39	#3
Psygore Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: France Posts: 491	Do you have originals disks ?

30 April 2003, 01:20	#4
verdure Posts: n/a	Infortunately I haven't the original disks

02 May 2003, 14:53	#5
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	I have the original disks for garrison. And I'm sure it worked on my A500 with the ram expansion. No, I'm definate it did. I'll soon be dumping all my games for CAPS, so if the whdload team want an mfm version I can only say yes. Just need to get hold of a zip drive for my PC....

09 May 2003, 20:56	#8
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 52 Posts: 1,838	Yes, 4096 bytes per track. Probably the same with the format of another platform.

09 May 2003, 21:03	#9
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	Atari? (guessing) A couple of Amiga games used Atari format.

09 May 2003, 21:34	#10
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 52 Posts: 1,838	No.

10 May 2003, 16:14	#12
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 52 Posts: 1,838

10 May 2003, 16:29	#14
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 52 Posts: 1,838	Being picky, eh...? The data track structure is: 2 marks, byte A1 bit robbed. 1 ID word $FFFF 1 EDC, Xor32 on decoded data layer of area 3: area 3: 1 Track ID long 4096 data bytes The rest is don't care/fake. That is 8216 bytes mfm encoded, or 4108 bytes.

10 May 2003, 16:42	#16
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 52 Posts: 1,838	I don't remember how the data is being used... but it is certainly encoded/recorded the way I wrote it Some games seem to make some kind of sport of misrepresenting their real data structure. Afair Nevermind is not dumped by anyone - caps guys feel free to correct me... If it gets dumped I will take a look into the problem

04 August 2003, 15:59	#17
Slayer Amiga Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: New Zealand Age: 56 Posts: 695	This I like to see! I remember all those years ago when I sent Bert 20 American I enquired whether someone was planning an Install for Garrison. I actually brought the game twice, a mate of mine took it away one day after assuring me he could copy it safely (why did I agree? :P) he returned a few days later with a pirated version which I discovered no longer allowed individual character representation if I remember rightly. Good luck with the install... I only managed to back it up once with cyclone... because the second version must have been slightly different. Yikes! I'll be banned for spamming shortly if I don't watch it, new and lippy! grin adios!

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