Games/applications which require a dongle to run - Page 2

dlfrsilver · 05 October 2009, 12:41

I know that BAT 2 use a resistor. I will post the value of it, and the place where it's solder
on the dongle.

Toni Wilen · 05 October 2009, 12:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

I know that BAT 2 use a resistor. I will post the value of it, and the place where it's solder
on the dongle.

Single resistor can't work (can't make time delay) but I guess capacitor is possible.

Supamax · 05 October 2009, 16:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Try to measure both halves separately. (just stick the multimeter probe to broken end, it "should" work)

He, I tried it... with no success. I'll try again

Supamax · 05 October 2009, 16:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by andreas

Not sure (too long ago!) but...
could be that Bars & Pipes had one. (sequencer software like Cubase/Cakewalk)

hmmm,
according to this online manual it shouldn't seem so:
http://fromwithin.com/liquidmidi/doc...1/chapter.html

(see the "Check Your Package" chapter)

Supamax · 05 October 2009, 16:27

The LightWave 3D v3.5 dongle is visible here:
http://www.lightwiki.com/images/e/e6...5_packshot.jpg

but I cannot tell if it's for parallel or serial port...

EDIT: the visible side of the 25p connector is female, so - since this is a pass-through dongle - the other side (the one which goes into the Amiga port) is male.
Hence the dongle is for the parallel port

.

cosmicfrog · 05 October 2009, 17:00

heheh but arnt the A1000 ports switched round, no just kidding hehehe

dlfrsilver · 05 October 2009, 17:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Single resistor can't work (can't make time delay) but I guess capacitor is possible.

Yep you're right, in fact it's a Resistor + Capacitor (round and flat model).

Both are hidden in a gray matter (won't break it, afraid to kill it).

the resistor is connected in pins 20 and 5 and the round capacitor in pins
5 and 7.

Can it help ?

Supamax · 05 October 2009, 17:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmicfrog

heheh but arnt the A1000 ports switched round, no just kidding hehehe

You seem to be right

.
I report here what you showed to me:
http://www.amiga-hardware.com/showha....cgi?HARDID=12
1 x 25pin Serial (FEMALE)
1 x 25pin Parallel (MALE)

Strange and stupid...

However, as you supposed, LightWave 3D v3.5 came out looong after the A1000, so what I wrote about the dongle remains valid.

thor · 05 October 2009, 20:10

HOL also lists Leviathan, Dames Grand-Maître and Rugby Coach.

dlfrsilver · 05 October 2009, 22:15

yes about Dames Grand-Maître, absolutely (i'm the owner).

Supamax · 06 October 2009, 00:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

yes about Dames Grand-Maître, absolutely (i'm the owner).

Does the dongle need to be inserted in joystick port 1 or 2?
Generally it's port 2, but for example Cricket Captain needs it in port 1.

P.S. if the original disk has no protections, could you upload an adf dump of it to the Zone?

Supamax · 06 October 2009, 17:56

@ Toni

I updated to the Zone the adf dumps of these two original programs of mine:

- Logistix v1.12A (IT)
- Superbase Personal v1.0 (IT)
(they use the same dongle)

Could you perhaps (when you have time etc.) disassembly the dongle check routines, as you did before for some of the games ?
I would be grateful, since so I wouldn't have to dismantle my dongle...

Toni Wilen · 06 October 2009, 18:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supamax

@ Toni

I updated to the Zone the adf dumps of these two original programs of mine:

- Logistix v1.12A (IT)
- Superbase Personal v1.0 (IT)
(they use the same dongle)

Could you perhaps (when you have time etc.) disassembly the dongle check routines, as you did before for some of the games ?
I would be grateful, since so I wouldn't have to dismantle my dongle...

Could you measure resistance between pins 5 and 7 and pins 9 and 7?

Dongle code reads both POT1X and POT1Y values, does simple calculation, result must be between 12 and 33.

I think the formula is POT1X * 10 / POT1Y, I am not yet sure because routines used for multiplication and division are some complex 32-bit versions, program is clearly written in some high-level compiled language, most likely C)

Also second firebutton/right mouse button signal must be high.

EDIT: formula is confirmed correct. (still need resistor values)

dlfrsilver · 06 October 2009, 19:53

Toni, dames grand maitre is zoned

Toni Wilen · 06 October 2009, 20:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

Toni, dames grand maitre is zoned

Thanks. Again two resistors (like Logistix)

POT1X != POT1Y
POT1Y * 256 / POT1X must be between 450 and 500

Again, it is impossible to find original resistor values without having original dongle. (for example 80 and 43 is acceptable, 100 and 54, and so on..)

Toni Wilen · 06 October 2009, 20:49

Rugby Coach: "joystick" with left, up and down directions switched at the same time.

Anyone have non-cracked Leviathan? I quickly checked common cracked versions but didn't find any dongle-like mouse/joystick port accesses. (or perhaps it isn't mouse port dongle..)

Galahad/FLT · 06 October 2009, 20:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

yes about Dames Grand-Maître, absolutely (i'm the owner).

Didn't I crack that one?

dlfrsilver · 06 October 2009, 20:54

i never got it........

Toni Wilen · 06 October 2009, 21:04

Cricket Captain: JOY0DAT bits 0 and 1 must keep toggling continuously and they must never be 0 simultaneously. (btw, game has mouse pointer which is only controlled by joystick, I can guess why..)

Galahad/FLT · 06 October 2009, 21:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

i never got it........

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?...ighlight=dames

05 October 2009, 16:27	#25
Supamax Da Digger :) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Monza, Italy Posts: 2,822	The LightWave 3D v3.5 dongle is visible here: http://www.lightwiki.com/images/e/e6...5_packshot.jpg but I cannot tell if it's for parallel or serial port... EDIT: the visible side of the 25p connector is female, so - since this is a pass-through dongle - the other side (the one which goes into the Amiga port) is male. Hence the dongle is for the parallel port . Last edited by Supamax; 05 October 2009 at 16:32.

06 October 2009, 17:56	#32
Supamax Da Digger :) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Monza, Italy Posts: 2,822	@ Toni I updated to the Zone the adf dumps of these two original programs of mine: - Logistix v1.12A (IT) - Superbase Personal v1.0 (IT) (they use the same dongle) Could you perhaps (when you have time etc.) disassembly the dongle check routines, as you did before for some of the games ? I would be grateful, since so I wouldn't have to dismantle my dongle... Last edited by Supamax; 06 October 2009 at 18:02.

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05 October 2009, 12:41	#21
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	I know that BAT 2 use a resistor. I will post the value of it, and the place where it's solder on the dongle.

05 October 2009, 17:00	#26
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 56 Posts: 3,557	heheh but arnt the A1000 ports switched round, no just kidding hehehe

05 October 2009, 20:10	#29
thor Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 899	HOL also lists Leviathan, Dames Grand-Maître and Rugby Coach.

05 October 2009, 22:15	#30
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	yes about Dames Grand-Maître, absolutely (i'm the owner).

06 October 2009, 19:53	#34
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	Toni, dames grand maitre is zoned

06 October 2009, 20:49	#36
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,502	Rugby Coach: "joystick" with left, up and down directions switched at the same time. Anyone have non-cracked Leviathan? I quickly checked common cracked versions but didn't find any dongle-like mouse/joystick port accesses. (or perhaps it isn't mouse port dongle..)

06 October 2009, 20:54	#38
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	i never got it........

06 October 2009, 21:04	#39
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,502	Cricket Captain: JOY0DAT bits 0 and 1 must keep toggling continuously and they must never be 0 simultaneously. (btw, game has mouse pointer which is only controlled by joystick, I can guess why..)

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