HstWB Installer - Making preinstalled HDF legal for sharing - Page 28

enigma776 · 09 August 2020, 01:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberhead97

Sure, if you want download and install latest WHDLoad games/demos from EAB file server, then you can combine HstWB Installer's user packages with user package installation:
1. Download HstWB Installer without packages https://hstwb.firstrealize.com/relea...2_portable.zip.
2. Download HstWB User Package Installation https://hstwb.firstrealize.com/relea...tion_1.4.2.zip.
3. Extract hstwb-installer_1.4.2_portable.zip and hstwb_user_package_installation_1.4.2.zip.
4. Copy "Support\User Packages" directories and files from extracted hstwb-installer_1.4.2_portable.zip to extracted hstwb_user_package_installation_1.4.2.zip directory.

You should now have a directory structure like this in extracted hstwb_user_package_installation_1.4.2.zip directory:
- [DIR] C
- [DIR] eab-whdload-demos
- [DIR] eab-whdload-games
- [DIR] eab-whdload-games_beta
- [DIR] S
- [FILE] build_install_entries.cmd
- [FILE] build_install_entries.command
- [FILE] build_install_entries.desktop
- [FILE] build_install_entries.ps1
- [FILE] build_install_entries.py
- [FILE] build_install_entries.sh
- [FILE] readme.txt
- [FILE] UserPackage-Installation
- [FILE] UserPackage-Installation.info
- [FILE] UNLZX

Then copy downloaded WHDLoad games/demos from EAB file server to their directories and run build_install_entries script depending on your OS: .cmd for Windows, .command for Mac OS and .sh for Linux in a terminal.

Last you need to run user package installation on your existing image, which can be done in 2 ways:

Plug in your SD/CF/HDD image on your PC using a USB adapter and use WinUAE to mount hdd, directory with user package installation and run user package installation.
Copy user package installation to a FAT32 formatted device and mount in your Amiga and run package installation.

I would recommend using a PC with WinUAE and run user package installation as thats the fastest method unless you have a powerful Amiga with 68060 and fast disk access.

If you're on Mac OS you can also use an imaging tool like ApplePi Baker to first read the image to a image file. Then you can run FS-UAE (or WinUAE using Wine), mount the image file, directory with user package installation and run user package installation.

When you have image running in WinUAE or your Amiga, from Workbench open mounted directory or FAT32 device and double-click "UserPackage-Installation". This should start user package installation in the same way as a self install image does.

After user package installation is complete, write back your image file to your SD/CF/HDD.

I hope this answers your question otherwise just let me know.

I have used the above method for some time now, but I would like to update my 3.x install which uses folders and not a hard file. How would I point this installer to say a "Games" folder and a "Demos" folder? I looked at assigns but unsure if that would change the location or not.

--Edit--
Yup changing the assigns did the trick. will leave it up so others will know.

ransom1122 · 24 September 2020, 02:47

Once you have set up a stable HstWB HDF, is there an easy way to update whdload games via script?

jono1975 · 24 September 2020, 04:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by ransom1122

Once you have set up a stable HstWB HDF, is there an easy way to update whdload games via script?

agreed that would be awesome

ransom1122 · 24 September 2020, 04:46

On a mediocre PC, The scanning of "all" WHDLoad Games,Demo's & Beta takes 24hrs..

There has to be a way to update the games without the headache of re scanning

enigma776 · 24 September 2020, 12:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by ransom1122

On a mediocre PC, The scanning of "all" WHDLoad Games,Demo's & Beta takes 24hrs..

There has to be a way to update the games without the headache of re scanning

Eh something must be wrong somewhere as it takes a couple of minutes on my 11 year old computer.

ransom1122 · 24 September 2020, 12:56

Very strange.. the addition of all whdload content, and then to extract all lhas 11mins.. very strange.

wiz12 · 24 September 2020, 14:29

Extracting a complete set of WHDload Games alone on my 10/11 year old PC takes much longer, roughly about 3 or 4 hours and that is even when hstWB flys through the process.

enigma776 · 24 September 2020, 14:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiz12

Extracting a complete set of WHDload Games alone on my 10/11 year old PC takes much longer, roughly about 3 or 4 hours and that is even when hstWB flys through the process.

Oh yeah for a full install yeah about 3 hours but to scan what is there only a minute or two.

wiz12 · 24 September 2020, 14:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by enigma776

Oh yeah for a full install yeah about 3 hours but to scan what is there only a minute or two.

Yes you're right it's around two minutes or so for a scan.

ransom1122 · 25 September 2020, 01:52

Can someone verify wether the HstWB Scanner picks up the English version of Shadow Sorcerer?

For me it only picked up the multi language non English version in AGS,HstWB & iGame yet the game is perfectly located in the HDF itself and can boot from WB easily..

enigma776 · 25 September 2020, 01:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by ransom1122

Can someone verify wether the HstWB Scanner picks up the English version of Shadow Sorcerer?

For me it only picked up the multi language non English version in AGS,HstWB & iGame yet the game is perfectly located in the HDF itself and can boot from WB easily..

Yeah can confirm this, which is odd as I told it not to install any non english games.

ransom1122 · 25 September 2020, 02:37

I performed an "Install all" option, and it avoided Shadow Sorcerer English.. Do you know why? and are there any other games the scanner has missed that you know of ?

enigma776 · 25 September 2020, 02:38

Nope, sorry and I bet it's a pain in the arse to find out too. Would need to go through every whdload game and match it to what it installed and no one has time for that.

ransom1122 · 25 September 2020, 02:47

Nah no need... This was brought up to me by a friend. I was just curious and resulted in the scanner not programmed to pick this game up for some reason..

Maybe the dev should be told about it...

In the meantime any missing game, can be easily launched from WB anyway

UncleAwesome · 09 October 2020, 08:53

Hi.

EDIT: It's working now. Not sure what mistakes I made the first time, but now I can hold right mouse button and configure the scsi drive and it boots fine. I installed picasso96 but, since with my cybervision64 it would not work. So anyone with that card, I would suggest install picasso96 on the amiga.

I followed a guide I saw on youtube for how to use this installer. And it works in winuae, everything boots up fine when I am done installing. But when I write the image file to cf card, my amiga 4000 will not boot, it just asks for floppy disk. If I hold down right mouse button I get to shell. I get the error "Requestlist: Unknown command requestlist failed returncode 10 set failed returncode 10"

I type in loadwb and workbench loads, but the picasso screen mode does not work and, it doesn't have the "userpackdir, kickstartdir, amigaosdir" on the workbench screen.
I tried with a 4gb cf card and 16sd card with adapter. This should work on an Amiga 4000?

Sandancer · 21 November 2020, 14:17

Hi there I have tried several times now to install this on a 128gig SDcard, followed a guide on youtube, evrything works fine aprt from when workbench load i get a DH2:uninitalised. In WInUAE its there and works, but put it in my Amiga 1200 it dosent show up, WHDload works,workbench loads, it just wont let me format that part.

DamienD · 21 November 2020, 16:55

Probably to do with drive geometry.

Once you put the card into your real Amiga, run HDToolbox again, get the correct drive information and save.

See this video where he talks about the issue:

[ Show youtube player ]

5:17 --> 5:58.

rabidgerry · 07 January 2021, 15:26

It's funny you mention that video, as there is something else he does on that part of the tutorial I have a questions about. He adds PFS3AIO file system. I just wondering is it possible for the HstWB installed script to do PFS3AIO? It only seems to do FFS from the builds I have created using it. I gather I am unable to add the filesystem once I've created and installation right? I'd need to start from scratch yes?

rabidgerry · 09 January 2021, 12:20

Never mind, I worked out how to do it by formatting a card as PFS3-AIO and then copying everything over from an OS3.1.4 hardfile.

dimfil · 02 February 2021, 11:16

Thank you @cyberhead97 from this great tool!
I have been using it for quite some time, no problems so far. I prefer Installer itself but Self Install images where OK when needed.
This week decided at last to update to the last stable 1.4.2 and I encountered an issue: during installation I get the same message as this:
http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...&postcount=245

Having no clue about what was missing, I searched and copied the file Prepare-User-Packages from the folder Amiga/userpackages/S of my previous Installer folder (v1.2.0) to the relative folder of 1.4.2 version. I did the same for the folder ENV in the Amiga/userpackageinstallation folder.
Now everything works OK but I don't know if this was the correct way to fix the issue or not. Maybe something else is needed too? The result works OK on emulator and real Amiga so far.

Using prebuid self install images has no issue at all, it' just that I prefer Installer itlself!

09 October 2020, 08:53	#555
UncleAwesome Registered User Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Norway Posts: 8	Hi. EDIT: It's working now. Not sure what mistakes I made the first time, but now I can hold right mouse button and configure the scsi drive and it boots fine. I installed picasso96 but, since with my cybervision64 it would not work. So anyone with that card, I would suggest install picasso96 on the amiga. I followed a guide I saw on youtube for how to use this installer. And it works in winuae, everything boots up fine when I am done installing. But when I write the image file to cf card, my amiga 4000 will not boot, it just asks for floppy disk. If I hold down right mouse button I get to shell. I get the error "Requestlist: Unknown command requestlist failed returncode 10 set failed returncode 10" I type in loadwb and workbench loads, but the picasso screen mode does not work and, it doesn't have the "userpackdir, kickstartdir, amigaosdir" on the workbench screen. I tried with a 4gb cf card and 16sd card with adapter. This should work on an Amiga 4000? Last edited by UncleAwesome; 11 October 2020 at 01:06.

21 November 2020, 16:55	#557
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Probably to do with drive geometry. Once you put the card into your real Amiga, run HDToolbox again, get the correct drive information and save. See this video where he talks about the issue: [ Show youtube player ] 5:17 --> 5:58. Last edited by DamienD; 21 November 2020 at 17:03.

02 February 2021, 11:16	#560
dimfil Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Athens Greece Posts: 17	User Packages error during Install Thank you @cyberhead97 from this great tool! I have been using it for quite some time, no problems so far. I prefer Installer itself but Self Install images where OK when needed. This week decided at last to update to the last stable 1.4.2 and I encountered an issue: during installation I get the same message as this: http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...&postcount=245 Having no clue about what was missing, I searched and copied the file Prepare-User-Packages from the folder Amiga/userpackages/S of my previous Installer folder (v1.2.0) to the relative folder of 1.4.2 version. I did the same for the folder ENV in the Amiga/userpackageinstallation folder. Now everything works OK but I don't know if this was the correct way to fix the issue or not. Maybe something else is needed too? The result works OK on emulator and real Amiga so far. Using prebuid self install images has no issue at all, it' just that I prefer Installer itlself!

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24 September 2020, 02:47	#542
ransom1122 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Omnicorp Age: 45 Posts: 5,812	Once you have set up a stable HstWB HDF, is there an easy way to update whdload games via script?

24 September 2020, 04:46	#544
ransom1122 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Omnicorp Age: 45 Posts: 5,812	On a mediocre PC, The scanning of "all" WHDLoad Games,Demo's & Beta takes 24hrs.. There has to be a way to update the games without the headache of re scanning

24 September 2020, 12:56	#546
ransom1122 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Omnicorp Age: 45 Posts: 5,812	Very strange.. the addition of all whdload content, and then to extract all lhas 11mins.. very strange.

24 September 2020, 14:29	#547
wiz12 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Ireland Posts: 752	Extracting a complete set of WHDload Games alone on my 10/11 year old PC takes much longer, roughly about 3 or 4 hours and that is even when hstWB flys through the process.

25 September 2020, 01:52	#550
ransom1122 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Omnicorp Age: 45 Posts: 5,812	Can someone verify wether the HstWB Scanner picks up the English version of Shadow Sorcerer? For me it only picked up the multi language non English version in AGS,HstWB & iGame yet the game is perfectly located in the HDF itself and can boot from WB easily..

25 September 2020, 02:37	#552
ransom1122 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Omnicorp Age: 45 Posts: 5,812	I performed an "Install all" option, and it avoided Shadow Sorcerer English.. Do you know why? and are there any other games the scanner has missed that you know of ?

25 September 2020, 02:38	#553
enigma776 Bringer of Death Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Peterborough, UK Age: 40 Posts: 434	Nope, sorry and I bet it's a pain in the arse to find out too. Would need to go through every whdload game and match it to what it installed and no one has time for that.

25 September 2020, 02:47	#554
ransom1122 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Omnicorp Age: 45 Posts: 5,812	Nah no need... This was brought up to me by a friend. I was just curious and resulted in the scanner not programmed to pick this game up for some reason.. Maybe the dev should be told about it... In the meantime any missing game, can be easily launched from WB anyway

21 November 2020, 14:17	#556
Sandancer Registered User Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Wakefield Posts: 269	Hi there I have tried several times now to install this on a 128gig SDcard, followed a guide on youtube, evrything works fine aprt from when workbench load i get a DH2:uninitalised. In WInUAE its there and works, but put it in my Amiga 1200 it dosent show up, WHDload works,workbench loads, it just wont let me format that part.

07 January 2021, 15:26	#558
rabidgerry Registered User Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Belfast Posts: 1,512	It's funny you mention that video, as there is something else he does on that part of the tutorial I have a questions about. He adds PFS3AIO file system. I just wondering is it possible for the HstWB installed script to do PFS3AIO? It only seems to do FFS from the builds I have created using it. I gather I am unable to add the filesystem once I've created and installation right? I'd need to start from scratch yes?

09 January 2021, 12:20	#559
rabidgerry Registered User Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Belfast Posts: 1,512	Never mind, I worked out how to do it by formatting a card as PFS3-AIO and then copying everything over from an OS3.1.4 hardfile.

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