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Old 05 February 2017, 15:22   #1
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Swos Hardware Problem?

Hello everyone,

i own an Amiga 500 6A 512+512 Kickstart 1.3 Sharp 315093-02 Fat Agnus 8372A Denise 8362R8

I tried via pc to amiga floppy drive almost every adf version of swos 95/96 and 96/97 and either it doesn't loads the first disk or it freezes at the second.

My conclusion is that the problem is not on the adfs...

Any suggestions of what is wrong with the machine? Thank you.
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Old 05 February 2017, 15:29   #2
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have you tried other games? Cannon Fodder, Sensible Soccer, Megalomania?
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Old 05 February 2017, 15:44   #3
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Sensible soccer is my problem.
No, do you want me to try cannon fodder 1 or 2?
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Old 05 February 2017, 15:54   #4
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yes. Cannon Fodder 2 has a similar disk loader.
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Old 05 February 2017, 16:07   #5
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I can't even load it to WinUAE.. no need to try it on my amiga
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Old 05 February 2017, 16:14   #6
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On WinUAE it loads only with 1MB of chip ram..
Do you think this is my problem?
swos on WinUAE plays with 512+512
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I can't even load it to WinUAE..
Weird; works fine here in WinUAE using an "A500 - 1.3 ROM, OCS or ECS Agnus, 512KB Chip + 512KB Slow RAM" configuration and these .ADFs:

... Cannon Fodder 2 (1994)(Virgin)[cr PDX](Disk 1 of 3)[t +11 ATX].adf
... Cannon Fodder 2 (1994)(Virgin)[cr PDX](Disk 2 of 3).adf
... Cannon Fodder 2 (1994)(Virgin)[cr PDX](Disk 3 of 3).adf
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Old 05 February 2017, 16:27   #8
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t+11 ATX is ok! Let's go to the floppy now..
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Old 05 February 2017, 17:32   #9
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NO!! I can't load the cannon fodder disk 2...
Is it a sensible software?????
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Do you have 2 disk drives? Maybe your 2nd drive is slightly faulty.

You could try just using one drive.
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Old 05 February 2017, 18:24   #11
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No i have only one internal drive.
How can i be sure that it is not faulty?
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No i have only one internal drive.
How can i be sure that it is not faulty?
Best if one of the hardware experts answer that one.
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Old 05 February 2017, 18:30   #13
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Can my floppy drive be faulty on sensible software games only? :/
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No experts today or there are for complicated problems..
I think i am the only one who use Amiga 500 with floppies..
I know that there's no way to load swos but... just trying..
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I think i am the only one who use Amiga 500 with floppies..
I really doubt that

I'm sure someone with a real A500 like yourself will test on their computer when they get the chance. Just be patient, the thread has only been up for a few hours.
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Maybe you are right

So, the new problem is that besides swos, i cannot load cannon fodder 2 aka sensible softwares games.. i have a non-sensible floppy drive

The funny thing is that there is an adf called "unsensible soccer 1.1" and guess what?!!!! it is not working too
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Any suggestions of what is wrong with the machine? Thank you.
This problem you are having running games by Sensible Software quite frankly almost completely mystifies me.

But looking at your machines hardware specifications one thing comes to mind as possibly causing your problems. And that is a fair portion (but not all) of your A500's hardware is ECS, but Kictstart 1.3 is really for OCS Amigas.

Maybe the game code is checking some of the Amiga 500's HW, identifying the machine as ECS, and then failing when it tries to make use of some feature of ECS/KS2.0 which is not present in your system.
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Are you sure your memory expansion works.
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Maybe the game code is checking some of the Amiga 500's HW, identifying the machine as ECS, and then failing when it tries to make use of some feature of ECS/KS2.0 which is not present in your system.
So, how swos can be loaded in WinUAE with ECS and Kickstart1.3
If i try your suggestion, what is cheaper? to buy KS2.0 or OCS?
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Are you sure your memory expansion works.
My workbench shows 882***
Before the WB load i press Ctrl+d AVAIL and it shows over 1MB maximum

The only different thing from my original memory expansion is that it used to work with a 3,6V green barrel battery and now it works with a 3V CR2032 battery..
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