which new amiga do you want ???

turrican3 · 05 May 2007, 17:50

what do you want in the new amiga, what look do you want for the new amiga, try to be optimist just dream a little bit

.try to define the best possible amiga for a comeback even if you don't believe it's possible.

I know it's hard to be positive but give it a try, forget the battle amiga.inc vs hyperion for a moment.

turrican3 · 05 May 2007, 18:43

let's go nobody dreamed about a new amiga ?

s2325 · 05 May 2007, 18:50

Portable Amiga fully compatible with classic models with flash drive.

turrican3 · 05 May 2007, 19:06

i would like this design for the new amiga, with something like the cell from ibm

wizard66 · 05 May 2007, 19:07

I Want the MINIMIG (Dutch all the way

)

Marcuz · 05 May 2007, 19:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by marco pedrana

i would be happy for a cheap machine running classicwb, little form factor, let's say like a modern computer keyboard with cd and able to run some pcc games through software, a couple of usb ports, and a external little box with the original ports that were on the amiga, so that if you like to, you can plug in old hardware.
something like that... an A4000 big as a pc keyboard.
something alike the minimig

that's it!

Ultron · 05 May 2007, 19:32

I want version 1.5. Hopefully one day.

amiga · 05 May 2007, 20:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultron

I want version 1.5. Hopefully one day.

Me too

pmc · 05 May 2007, 21:11

I'd like a brand new shiny evolution of the Amiga - all new more powerful versions of the custom chips & associated DMA architecture, fast processor, support for modern hardware and for backwards compatibility, plug-in Clone-A type boards that have the old chipsets on them so that the new Amiga can be mode switched into a real classic Amiga.

viddi · 05 May 2007, 22:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by turrican3

i would like this design for the new amiga, with something like the cell from ibm

Yes!

The new Amiga should have something like a A1200 case.
It could be innovative these days and it´s the old style as well.

It should work with standard gfx cards, ram, USB and so on.

It has to be a console and a powerful computer.
A "all in one" machine with limited expansion possibilities.

But it has to be cheap; bundled with AmigaOS, *new* games/apps and 500 WHDload retro games!

PaulyQ · 06 May 2007, 00:24

So why not go along the lines of what the Mac has done?

Make it run natively under intel/amd and then have "classic" mode to run all the old software. Overhaul the OS/GUI, bring back the decent apps and creativity that made Amiga in the first place.

Well....I can dream!!

Zetr0 · 06 May 2007, 02:45

I want an Amiga

has x86 dual core under the cpu-hood (intel QX68000 - irony eh?) or AMD Athlon 64x2 6000+
2 GB of RAM
6.1 (or better) Sound
256 - 512MB Built in onboard Graphics
ATI onboard - XTX 1950 XT / Pro
HDMI

DVI / SVGA

Composite / SVHS

250GB Sata II or SCSI Harddisk (Multi-bootable)
AmigaOS

Linux

QNX

Wondoze

DVDRW

3.5" Foppy Drive & Smart Media Center : Supports
1.44mb / 720kb PC

1.67mb/ 880kb Amiga

Memory Reader
MMC

SD

DUO

CF

USB 2.0

USB 2.0 & 1.1 compatible
2 rear root hub(s)

2 side root hub(s)

------ Legacy support

060 & 68000 companion CPU's
Chipsets on a plugin miniPCI card (sold as extra)
Advanced MOS (mouse Operated System) Legacy setup
CPU & Frequency

cach enables

(other CPU features)

Timming support (for things with the memory)

Other Ports
Parallel

Wide Serial

PS2 (Mouse)

1394 Firewire

Wireless 54mbit LAN

and now it has to look like this!

pic 1 - primary distro model

pic 2 - primary distro model

The secondary distro model would be look similar to a snazzy DVD player, with wifi-bluetooth keyboard / mouse action or even a wand that slides onto a keyboard... neato...

Clearly a Winner!

viddi · 06 May 2007, 09:40

@ Zetr0:

Yes, that suits me fine.
But why not implement a powerful emulator instead of this PCI card?
I think of expenses reduction.

Zetr0 · 06 May 2007, 11:45

@viddi

heys my friend.,.... the reason i went for the board is so that you can add 'other' hard emulator cards or other cards in general as well as better emulation

Doc Mindie · 06 May 2007, 11:46

As for hardware specs.....

a Lisa heavily updated.... actually, scrap that.

GeForce8 with Lisa integrated, when going below 8bit colours, it switches from Chunky to oldschool Planar type display.

Soundblaster Live! with integrated Paula, the Paula module upgraded to handle 2.88 MB floppies at normal speed.

CPU would be dual AMD Athlon64 x2

the Kickstart should also include a hardware 680x0MC (full w/ MMUwhere applicable) emulation module, to run the oldschool crap we have with even less problems.

Blitter and Copper and such upgraded as neccessary to keep up with the speeds of the Lisa Geforce

1GB Chipmem, upgradeable to 4, and 1GB fastmem upgradeable to 16 (8GB for each CPU)

So.. down to less important junk:

DMA133 IDE, for upto 4 devices.
S-ATA
10/100/1000MB Lancard. (anyone who claims wireless is a goodiea is a liar :P)
6*USB 2.0 compliant ports. (New Amiga Mouse and Keyboard and joysticks are hereby going USB)

Parallell and serial ports, both your normal SVGA and the not-so-normal 23pin Video ports.
5PCI slots.

DVD burner, dual layer +/- RW
250GB HD

Bundled software:
VMWare Workstation
WoW+Burning Crusade
Cinema3D
Photoshop
Opera or Firefox web-browser
CygnusEd
--

That's all I can think of for now....

Zetr0 · 06 May 2007, 11:55

@Doc

With those specs you would know the Doctors in the house,..... but really WoW ? bah, kiddies game go get Guildwars me says!!!! and join my guild!!!

I would change one thing about my previous load out though. the wifi is build in but there is also a 10/100/1k lan port

and a feature connector port!

turrican3 · 06 May 2007, 12:00

could you put a price estimation too ?
I think it will be awesome

turrican3 · 06 May 2007, 12:03

For a low price they can sell os4.0 with an update firmware for the best motherboards with an amiga tower in option.

Doc Mindie · 06 May 2007, 12:09

Price estimate...... with 2 AMD Athlon64 x2's..... expensive as he|_|_

Would probably be hardpressed to get this baby under £1500

And Zetro... Guildwars is for losers, WoW is "For the Horde"

I would really like to see the AGA chipset integrated into the other chips I've mentioned.... because of backwards compatability. Games or application calling the AGA routines, would automatically trigger he 68k emulation and you wouldn't know the difference. Apart from SysInfo reporting a 6GHz 68060

turrican3 · 06 May 2007, 12:13

why not finish the aaa chipset, do you know if it must be compatible with aga ? for the aga is there no solution to use the aga chipset from a real 1200 or 4000 ?

05 May 2007, 17:50	#1
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06 May 2007, 02:45	#12
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	I want an Amiga has x86 dual core under the cpu-hood (intel QX68000 - irony eh?) or AMD Athlon 64x2 6000+ 2 GB of RAM 6.1 (or better) Sound 256 - 512MB Built in onboard Graphics ATI onboard - XTX 1950 XT / Pro HDMI DVI / SVGA Composite / SVHS 250GB Sata II or SCSI Harddisk (Multi-bootable) AmigaOS Linux QNX Wondoze DVDRW 3.5" Foppy Drive & Smart Media Center : Supports 1.44mb / 720kb PC 1.67mb/ 880kb Amiga Memory Reader MMC SD DUO CF USB 2.0 USB 2.0 & 1.1 compatible 2 rear root hub(s) 2 side root hub(s) ------ Legacy support 060 & 68000 companion CPU's Chipsets on a plugin miniPCI card (sold as extra) Advanced MOS (mouse Operated System) Legacy setup CPU & Frequency cach enables (other CPU features) Timming support (for things with the memory) Other Ports Parallel Wide Serial PS2 (Mouse) 1394 Firewire Wireless 54mbit LAN and now it has to look like this! pic 1 - primary distro model pic 2 - primary distro model The secondary distro model would be look similar to a snazzy DVD player, with wifi-bluetooth keyboard / mouse action or even a wand that slides onto a keyboard... neato... Clearly a Winner!

06 May 2007, 12:09	#19
Doc Mindie In deep Trouble Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manchester, Made in Norway Age: 51 Posts: 841	Price estimate...... with 2 AMD Athlon64 x2's..... expensive as he\|_\|_ Would probably be hardpressed to get this baby under £1500 And Zetro... Guildwars is for losers, WoW is "For the Horde" I would really like to see the AGA chipset integrated into the other chips I've mentioned.... because of backwards compatability. Games or application calling the AGA routines, would automatically trigger he 68k emulation and you wouldn't know the difference. Apart from SysInfo reporting a 6GHz 68060 Last edited by Doc Mindie; 06 May 2007 at 23:45.

05 May 2007, 18:43	#2
turrican3 Moon 1969 = amiga 1985 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: belgium Age: 48 Posts: 3,913	let's go nobody dreamed about a new amiga ?

05 May 2007, 18:50	#3
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	Portable Amiga fully compatible with classic models with flash drive.

05 May 2007, 19:07	#5
wizard66 FPGA Replay inside A590 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Rotterdam/Netherlands Age: 57 Posts: 294	I Want the MINIMIG (Dutch all the way )

05 May 2007, 19:32	#7
Ultron Something Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Amigaland, Nostalgia Age: 48 Posts: 757	I want version 1.5. Hopefully one day.

05 May 2007, 21:11	#9
pmc gone Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: completely gone Posts: 1,596	I'd like a brand new shiny evolution of the Amiga - all new more powerful versions of the custom chips & associated DMA architecture, fast processor, support for modern hardware and for backwards compatibility, plug-in Clone-A type boards that have the old chipsets on them so that the new Amiga can be mode switched into a real classic Amiga.

06 May 2007, 00:24	#11
PaulyQ Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hartlepool, UK Age: 53 Posts: 237	So why not go along the lines of what the Mac has done? Make it run natively under intel/amd and then have "classic" mode to run all the old software. Overhaul the OS/GUI, bring back the decent apps and creativity that made Amiga in the first place. Well....I can dream!!

06 May 2007, 09:40	#13
viddi Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 4,007	@ Zetr0: Yes, that suits me fine. But why not implement a powerful emulator instead of this PCI card? I think of expenses reduction.

06 May 2007, 11:45	#14
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@viddi heys my friend.,.... the reason i went for the board is so that you can add 'other' hard emulator cards or other cards in general as well as better emulation

06 May 2007, 11:46	#15
Doc Mindie In deep Trouble Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manchester, Made in Norway Age: 51 Posts: 841	As for hardware specs..... a Lisa heavily updated.... actually, scrap that. GeForce8 with Lisa integrated, when going below 8bit colours, it switches from Chunky to oldschool Planar type display. Soundblaster Live! with integrated Paula, the Paula module upgraded to handle 2.88 MB floppies at normal speed. CPU would be dual AMD Athlon64 x2 the Kickstart should also include a hardware 680x0MC (full w/ MMUwhere applicable) emulation module, to run the oldschool crap we have with even less problems. Blitter and Copper and such upgraded as neccessary to keep up with the speeds of the Lisa Geforce 1GB Chipmem, upgradeable to 4, and 1GB fastmem upgradeable to 16 (8GB for each CPU) So.. down to less important junk: DMA133 IDE, for upto 4 devices. S-ATA 10/100/1000MB Lancard. (anyone who claims wireless is a goodiea is a liar :P) 6*USB 2.0 compliant ports. (New Amiga Mouse and Keyboard and joysticks are hereby going USB) Parallell and serial ports, both your normal SVGA and the not-so-normal 23pin Video ports. 5PCI slots. DVD burner, dual layer +/- RW 250GB HD Bundled software: VMWare Workstation WoW+Burning Crusade Cinema3D Photoshop Opera or Firefox web-browser CygnusEd -- That's all I can think of for now....

06 May 2007, 11:55	#16
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@Doc With those specs you would know the Doctors in the house,..... but really WoW ? bah, kiddies game go get Guildwars me says!!!! and join my guild!!! I would change one thing about my previous load out though. the wifi is build in but there is also a 10/100/1k lan port and a feature connector port!

06 May 2007, 12:00	#17
turrican3 Moon 1969 = amiga 1985 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: belgium Age: 48 Posts: 3,913	could you put a price estimation too ? I think it will be awesome

06 May 2007, 12:03	#18
turrican3 Moon 1969 = amiga 1985 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: belgium Age: 48 Posts: 3,913	For a low price they can sell os4.0 with an update firmware for the best motherboards with an amiga tower in option.

06 May 2007, 12:13	#20
turrican3 Moon 1969 = amiga 1985 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: belgium Age: 48 Posts: 3,913	why not finish the aaa chipset, do you know if it must be compatible with aga ? for the aga is there no solution to use the aga chipset from a real 1200 or 4000 ?

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