How to run Blitz Game from bootable ADF

Havie · 29 August 2018, 22:07

I'm struggling to make a bootable adf for the game I am making. Runs fine from HD but when I put it on to an installed dfo: with a startup-sequence in s: and loadwb in c: and mathstran in libs: it doesn't work! I guess I might need something else in the c: and libs:

Can someone do an idiots guide to getting this to work please?

Daedalus · 29 August 2018, 22:16

What the code needs to run depends on what function it uses, but in general, if you're not using the OS it should use very little else. What you could do is run SnoopDOS before you run it from the hard drive and see what it accesses, then copy whatever it is over to the floppy.

It could be something like a font missing, or an image or other asset that's at a different relative path on the floppy.

Coagulus · 29 August 2018, 22:40

Snoopdos is the thing to use for sure. Was ultra annoying trying to locate the issue without it.

Turned out in my example I'd used the Print command and needed diskfont!

Havie · 29 August 2018, 22:42

Ok - will try and see! Thanks guys.

Havie · 29 August 2018, 23:14

Snoopdos told me that I needed diskfonts.library. Game now boots but how do I stop workbench showing up first (I think I need Loadwb so I run the game via execute)?

Aladin · 29 August 2018, 23:18

a methode:

run >NIL: game
endcli

Havie · 30 August 2018, 00:04

Tried but didn't seem to work = argh!!!!!

Daedalus · 30 August 2018, 01:02

Does the game run ok from a Shell window? LoadWB opens the Workbench itself, it's not needed for the game unless you explicitly use Workbench's features. If it runs from the Shell, it should run from the Startup-Sequence, though you don't actually need the run >NIL: or EndCLI bits for now so leave them out to keep things simple.

Havie · 31 August 2018, 00:38

Yep - nearly got this working. Took your advice and removed loadwb (thought I needed it) and the game loads. Still get a workbench bar appear at top of the screen. How do I stop this?

Havie · 31 August 2018, 00:52

Success! Needed to create env: in ram (nicked teh code from the workbench disk) and have added some test (echo) as the game loads. Now just copying adf to my real 1200 to test!

DamienD · 31 August 2018, 01:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Havie

Snoopdos told me that I needed diskfonts.library.

...just quickly read this thread and was about to say "diskfonts.library" after your 1st post and before getting to your reply

SnoopDos is essential when working out what's accessed / needed

Havie · 31 August 2018, 20:32

Yes - I knew about SnoopDos but have never used it. Obviously, I will again! Thanks.

29 August 2018, 22:07	#1
Havie Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: UK Posts: 1,893	How to run Blitz Game from bootable ADF I'm struggling to make a bootable adf for the game I am making. Runs fine from HD but when I put it on to an installed dfo: with a startup-sequence in s: and loadwb in c: and mathstran in libs: it doesn't work! I guess I might need something else in the c: and libs: Can someone do an idiots guide to getting this to work please?

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29 August 2018, 22:16	#2
Daedalus Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dublin, then Glasgow Posts: 6,334	What the code needs to run depends on what function it uses, but in general, if you're not using the OS it should use very little else. What you could do is run SnoopDOS before you run it from the hard drive and see what it accesses, then copy whatever it is over to the floppy. It could be something like a font missing, or an image or other asset that's at a different relative path on the floppy.

29 August 2018, 22:40	#3
Coagulus Gets there in the end... Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Wales Posts: 862	Snoopdos is the thing to use for sure. Was ultra annoying trying to locate the issue without it. Turned out in my example I'd used the Print command and needed diskfont!

29 August 2018, 22:42	#4
Havie Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: UK Posts: 1,893	Ok - will try and see! Thanks guys.

29 August 2018, 23:14	#5
Havie Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: UK Posts: 1,893	Snoopdos told me that I needed diskfonts.library. Game now boots but how do I stop workbench showing up first (I think I need Loadwb so I run the game via execute)?

29 August 2018, 23:18	#6
Aladin Registered User Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: France Posts: 853	a methode: run >NIL: game endcli

30 August 2018, 00:04	#7
Havie Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: UK Posts: 1,893	Tried but didn't seem to work = argh!!!!!

30 August 2018, 01:02	#8
Daedalus Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dublin, then Glasgow Posts: 6,334	Does the game run ok from a Shell window? LoadWB opens the Workbench itself, it's not needed for the game unless you explicitly use Workbench's features. If it runs from the Shell, it should run from the Startup-Sequence, though you don't actually need the run >NIL: or EndCLI bits for now so leave them out to keep things simple.

31 August 2018, 00:38	#9
Havie Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: UK Posts: 1,893	Yep - nearly got this working. Took your advice and removed loadwb (thought I needed it) and the game loads. Still get a workbench bar appear at top of the screen. How do I stop this?

31 August 2018, 00:52	#10
Havie Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: UK Posts: 1,893	Success! Needed to create env: in ram (nicked teh code from the workbench disk) and have added some test (echo) as the game loads. Now just copying adf to my real 1200 to test!

31 August 2018, 20:32	#12
Havie Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: UK Posts: 1,893	Yes - I knew about SnoopDos but have never used it. Obviously, I will again! Thanks.

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