Accelerators - Is there any point in buying anything other than a Vampire in 2019?

[Marchie]

In order to be scientific about this we really should buy everything, then test and compare.

Anyone here good for a loan?

[ptyerman]

Originally Posted by mech

Unless something has changed, i am using a vampire V2(not plus) in my A2000 with GVP SCSI card and scsi card reader.A 2286 bridgeboard,and a A2065 Ethernet card and they all work fine with vampire.


On the A500 i use a vampire with a gvp ANET sidecar(basically a hydra ethernet card) and it too works fine.

That is useful info, thanks. Worth looking in to.
I am far behind on these things as my interest in the vampire disappeared when this problem was brought to light in the early days, I haven't looked at it since.
They must have looked at the problem and solved it by the sound of it. You would think they would have announced it or something, or that there was plenty of reports around stating it was working! Yours is the only statement I have seen on the subject.
Still, I'm loath to dish out that much money on one without knowing for sure it's widely working without problems with zorro 2 cards!
I'll keep my eye out for any more reports.

[Seiya]

Originally Posted by klx300r

the Vampire will make all your dreams come true especially as it's more and more compatible with most original 68k apps and games

i'd like to see a video with All (and i said all) amiga software that run on Vampire.
Strange that any video there are always the same games and apps.

[Jope]

Originally Posted by Seiya

i'd like to see a video with All (and i said all) amiga software that run on Vampire.

I'm not sure if that's a reasonable thing to ask. Perhaps make a list of the software relevant to you and hopefully someone takes the time try some of them out for you.

[TuKo]

Originally Posted by Seiya

i'd like to see a video with All (and i said all) amiga software that run on Vampire.
Strange that any video there are always the same games and apps.

I fear we will all be dead when we will end recording the last video. Wouldn't it be a shorter video of things not working ?

Mind what ? It could even be useful to fix non working things (if any) !

Why not start to be constructive and not the other way around ?

[grond]

Originally Posted by ptyerman

my interest in the vampire disappeared when this problem was brought to light in the early days, I haven't looked at it since.
They must have looked at the problem and solved it by the sound of it. You would think they would have announced it or something, or that there was plenty of reports around stating it was working! Yours is the only statement I have seen on the subject.
Still, I'm loath to dish out that much money on one without knowing for sure it's widely working without problems with zorro 2 cards!
I'll keep my eye out for any more reports.

The only thing that has changed is the amount of deliberate badmouthing of the Vampire since more and more people got one to try for themselves. The status of Z2 cards in an A2000 has not changed ever: Only cards that do DMA do not work. These cards are a few SCSI controllers and probably another few cards. Everything else has always worked just fine. Nonetheless, the V500 is an accelerator card directed at the A500, not the A1000 or A2000.

[Seiya]

Originally Posted by Jope

I'm not sure if that's a reasonable thing to ask. Perhaps make a list of the software relevant to you and hopefully someone takes the time try some of them out for you.

if someone declare that vampire is more and more compatible then real Amiga must show what they say.
but your suggest could be usefull to create a new list of compatibility

[ptyerman]

Originally Posted by grond

The only thing that has changed is the amount of deliberate badmouthing of the Vampire since more and more people got one to try for themselves. The status of Z2 cards in an A2000 has not changed ever: Only cards that do DMA do not work. These cards are a few SCSI controllers and probably another few cards. Everything else has always worked just fine. Nonetheless, the V500 is an accelerator card directed at the A500, not the A1000 or A2000.

Thanks for confirming it doesn't work with some cards. I have a couple of SCSI cards that I think are DMA so I will continue to give it a miss and look at other solutions.

[grond]

Originally Posted by ptyerman

Thanks for confirming it doesn't work with some cards.

Your welcome, although that is no secret.

I have a couple of SCSI cards that I think are DMA so I will continue to give it a miss and look at other solutions.

I think some of those SCSI controllers can be set to not use DMA. With the Z2 bus limited to something like 3.5 MB/s, the V500's internal IDE is faster anyway and the SCSI controllers would most likely only be needed for copying over old files for which a non-DMA operation is good enough.

[demolition]

Originally Posted by Minuous

Seems it only handles the 68000 instruction set? In which case it is entirely useless as most software that expects a fast Amiga will be built for 68020 or later, and of course AmigaOS 3.5/3.9 itself also requires 68020 or later. A bit like if AMD brought out a CPU that only handles the 80286 instruction set, doesn't matter how fast it is if it doesn't support all the instructions, it won't even run the programs.

Hold your horses.. Yes, it runs 68000 software but it also handles 68020 or 68040 instructions as well for that matter. The OS dist built specifically for Vampire (coffin) is based on WB3.9 so it obviously runs fine.
In terms of compatibility, many people are focused on plain 68000 compatibility since that is what most games were made for. A regular 68060 accelerator will not run old 68000 code as well as a Vampire.