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now, if you hope for backporting os4 to amiga (68k) then id ask you, what in this respect is an advantage of a system that takes already 80mb to boot to workbench? even considering the ppc binaries are usually 1.5-2 times bigger, it would be still 40 mb. not to talk about speed, you could probably check how the current mui fork is working on an actual amiga. in comparison aros68k needs 6 mb to boot to wanderer, and it *is* working on an amiga, as of current. |
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So, while keeping the AmigaOS source code in a subversion repository seems to be possible, while at the same time accessing it through Git, it does not seem to be a good match. Part of what empowers Git users is in the workflow it allows, and to me it seems that this comes up short with Git access to a subversion repository. Quote:
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I'll certainly have egg on my face if the MacRelix source isn't available, but indeed I don't see it either. I'm almost positive that I saw it before, but I guess Josh himself will have to confirm whether or not I am also suffering hallucinations.
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Well that wasn't so difficult to find out the last times. The Takedown (DMCA) notice issued to GitHub was done by Cloanto. |
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15 October 2016, 15:56 | #129 | |
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I started on a port of that to Amiga some years ago, one day when i have free time i should finish it :-) |
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OK, so Cloanto issued the takedown requests. What do we know about Cloanto? Who runs it, how many employees do they have, are they publicly traded, and do we know how they came into possession of full rights to AmigaOS in the first place? Are they the "root" owner of the IP?
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That is interesting info, surprised I missed that.
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This isn't AOS4 or higher, but now has a boing ball. Also, Hyperion's boing ball license can only be transferred to a third party with Amiga Inc.'s consent. Quote:
So they couldn't legally open source it without the consent of Cloanto. Surely the Cloanto copyright ownership doesn't extend to the AOS4 additions as well unless it's considered a derivative work like GPL in a way? |
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That seems to back up the previous link, that Cloanto seems to have the copyrights to at least through 3.1
Cloanto already makes money from open source, so hit them up with the proposal. All they can say is "no" or "we don't have the ability". |
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The mere fact that somebody has a license doesn't mean that the party granting the license has any rights to it. There was a court settlement where all interested parties got some part of the loot. This also doesn't mean that any party did actually have any rights to AOS in the first place. Actually it seems to indicate the contrary as apparently none of the parties could win in a court suit. Somebody owning the rights should have been able to come out the courtroom as the sole winner...
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I only see copyright assignments from Amiga Delaware to Cloanto in there.
Looking over it again, I don't see kickstart newer than 2.04 and it may only be the binaries for all we know. Those unknown rom numbers don't seem to even be kickstart. The top one is the rom for a 1541 for example. |
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With your permission i used the vector-coordinates from this exe-file. You told me, that you extracted them from the org. demo in 1986. br André edit: preview - 19.02.1998 |
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That link is apparently the motherlode, thank you very much. Do you happen to know who put that site together? This person, it would seem, has a reasonable interest in understanding this topic and could be very useful here. Also, OMFG: https://twitter.com/amigadocuments/s...30999738867712 EDIT: I see the contact address now and I will write to this person. Last edited by wXR; 16 October 2016 at 02:54. |
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If you listen to the interview on episode 11 of Amicast, you get the impression that Cloanto actually _wants_ classic AmigaOS open sourced. The episode is quite long, I cannot be bothered to find exactly when in it that this is said, but it is an interrsting interview, so just listen to it all, http://amicast.ppa.pl
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