Skaut Kwatermaster - Page 2

StingRay · 28 October 2018, 15:13

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Originally Posted by jotd

Hey stop lambasting me. It's not my fault if it works straight out of the box

Out of the box on your system.

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Originally Posted by jotd

With the original game (that I don't have), I could have recreated the decryption, but why wasting that time?

Original game is not needed for decrypting. It is very simple encryption anyway which uses the file length of the chunks read by the patched dos.library.

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Originally Posted by jotd

@Stingray: interesting. I have to find which plugin is required and provide it in the install if not present. Seems that xfdmaster.library v39.15 does that natively. The link just in case http://aminet.net/package/util/pack/xfdmaster

That's the version I have installed and it doesn't recognise the file. So the file is handled by an external slave I guess.

Irek´72 · 28 October 2018, 18:22

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Originally Posted by jotd

BTW I have zoned the install, can be done with original or cracked disks.

I'll publish it in a few days on whdload page, so you can test it first

I just tried it but it seems that the original version is not supported at all.

Code:

The data/disk-files are damage or it is an unsupported version

jotd · 28 October 2018, 18:24

That's expected: you have to use the installer (which applies unpack on executable file), not just copy the files over. Unless you have the problem below:

@Stingray: yes, Don Adan was right. You need "Avalon" plugin by MrLarmer

I'll provide the plugin in the install script, and done.

Irek´72 · 28 October 2018, 18:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotd

That's expected: you have to use the installer (which applies unpack on executable file), not just copy the files over.

Of course, I installed the game with your installer after that I get this with unsupported version.....

jotd · 28 October 2018, 18:50

check my post above. I've posted an update of the installer in the zone. You can reinstall, or you can copy "Avalon" provided file in LIBS:XFD and just apply XFDDecrunch on the "kwatermaster" executable. Do it twice. File size must be > 500k and that'll work

StingRay · 28 October 2018, 19:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotd

@Stingray: yes, Don Adan was right. You need "Avalon" plugin by MrLarmer

I'll provide the plugin in the install script, and done.

Thanks.

Another approach could be to simply patch the decruncher at offset $236 ($1fa without hunk header) to patch the decrunched data and then start the game.

That way no external plugin slave would be needed but loading the file would be quite slow of course.

Irek´72 · 28 October 2018, 20:06

Okay, after the second time it worked with the start of the game.

But now I have another problem, the screen is split into two parts (a little bit from the bottom is now up)

The same problem I had with the HD version of the PPA side.

jotd · 28 October 2018, 20:10

@Stingray yeah, but you know I hate hacking

@Irek can you take a picture? screenshot? is that on real HW?

DrBong · 29 October 2018, 01:17

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Originally Posted by jotd

@Stingray yeah, but you know I hate hacking

We know Jeff, we know!

It's good to know that some things haven't changed all these years later since the early days of JST and before!!!

StingRay · 29 October 2018, 09:13

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Originally Posted by jotd

@Stingray yeah, but you know I hate hacking

It's as much "hacking" as patching the decrunched binary...

jotd · 29 October 2018, 11:02

that was a joke of course. if it's easy, maybe it's preferable to do like this, so original data files can be used. But then I have to support crack too... Well, I could see if it's really easy.

Irek´72 · 29 October 2018, 18:33

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Originally Posted by jotd

@Irek can you take a picture? screenshot? is that on real HW?

It happens on the real Amiga hardware. I made two pictures of it.

StingRay · 29 October 2018, 19:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotd

that was a joke of course. if it's easy, maybe it's preferable to do like this, so original data files can be used. But then I have to support crack too... Well, I could see if it's really easy.

If you use the offsets I posted in this thread it's pretty easy, a4 contains the start of the decrunched data so you can easily use resload_Patch. Supporting the crack would be a bit more work as the modifications done to the decruncher need to be reverted but it shouldn't take much time to do.

jotd · 29 October 2018, 19:15

@Irek first pic looks all right, second pic has trashed gfx at the top right?

@StingRay I don't know if it's worth it then. The only "issue" is the 500k file, that could be XPK packed to reduce size.

Irek´72 · 29 October 2018, 19:50

@Jeff: No, both pictures are affected. A small piece of the picture is missing below, and the missing piece is shown above.

Irek´72 · 02 November 2018, 21:29

Well, since I'm using MV1200 scandoubler on my main Amiga, I thought that was the cause of the problem. Yesterday, I tried the game on Amiga monitor and the problem still existed. Maybe this has to be done with 040 CPU or specifically with 040 Blizzard? You can not normally play the game (because the bottom row of buttons is missing). Would be nice if you could solve the problem.

Since the game is completely in Polish I thought it would be a good idea to add a solution in another language. I found a solution in Polish (found in the net) and translated it to German. I added both files to your installation package, a NewIcon is now available as well. (see the zone)

jotd · 02 November 2018, 21:40

you could try with SNOOP & CHK tooltips, CHKBLIT. I can try too.

Translating a polish solution into german?? but why? why not english?

Irek´72 · 03 November 2018, 11:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotd

you could try with SNOOP & CHK tooltips, CHKBLIT. I can try too.

Translating a polish solution into german?? but why? why not english?

I tried it, unfortunately with the same result.
What is very strange, the error will remain after "quitkey" also on the Workbench. (I have to restart the Amiga. After that everything is fine) I have over 1000 games on my HD here and it is the only game that behaves like this.

These are both languages I used every day in real life.

Well, I've done the first step, if anyone would like to be able to translate the solution into English (the German solution is not 100% but I think anyone who speaks German will understand what's going on)
I think in this forum there are many German users who speak and write English better than me.

Irek´72 · 11 November 2018, 14:46

Today I tried it again with snoopocs and chkbltwait option and the game crashed right at the start with a error.(I think I had a typo in the Icon lately

)

Code:

Exception "Access Fault" ($7008) PC = $5BEFAF92 (ExpMem $4BF92) Byte Write to $DFF1DC (custom.beamcon0)

Btw. Users of 040 Apollo cards have the same gfx problems as me with the game. (thank you Piter for the info

)

jotd · 11 November 2018, 16:19

That's why I always use command line

That's good news. I could have tried that too. I'll remove that write.

28 October 2018, 18:24	#23
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,160	That's expected: you have to use the installer (which applies unpack on executable file), not just copy the files over. Unless you have the problem below: @Stingray: yes, Don Adan was right. You need "Avalon" plugin by MrLarmer I'll provide the plugin in the install script, and done. Last edited by jotd; 28 October 2018 at 18:47.

28 October 2018, 20:10	#28
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,160	@Stingray yeah, but you know I hate hacking @Irek can you take a picture? screenshot? is that on real HW? Last edited by jotd; 28 October 2018 at 20:16.

29 October 2018, 19:50	#35
Irek´72 ´040 User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Emsland/Germany Age: 51 Posts: 450	@Jeff: No, both pictures are affected. A small piece of the picture is missing below, and the missing piece is shown above. Attached Thumbnails

11 November 2018, 14:46	#39
Irek´72 ´040 User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Emsland/Germany Age: 51 Posts: 450	Today I tried it again with snoopocs and chkbltwait option and the game crashed right at the start with a error.(I think I had a typo in the Icon lately) Code: Exception "Access Fault" ($7008) PC = $5BEFAF92 (ExpMem $4BF92) Byte Write to $DFF1DC (custom.beamcon0) Btw. Users of 040 Apollo cards have the same gfx problems as me with the game. (thank you Piter for the info )

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Irek´72 ´040 User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Emsland/Germany Age: 51 Posts: 450	Okay, after the second time it worked with the start of the game. But now I have another problem, the screen is split into two parts (a little bit from the bottom is now up) The same problem I had with the HD version of the PPA side.

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jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,160	that was a joke of course. if it's easy, maybe it's preferable to do like this, so original data files can be used. But then I have to support crack too... Well, I could see if it's really easy.

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jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,160	@Irek first pic looks all right, second pic has trashed gfx at the top right? @StingRay I don't know if it's worth it then. The only "issue" is the 500k file, that could be XPK packed to reduce size.

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Irek´72 ´040 User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Emsland/Germany Age: 51 Posts: 450	Well, since I'm using MV1200 scandoubler on my main Amiga, I thought that was the cause of the problem. Yesterday, I tried the game on Amiga monitor and the problem still existed. Maybe this has to be done with 040 CPU or specifically with 040 Blizzard? You can not normally play the game (because the bottom row of buttons is missing). Would be nice if you could solve the problem. Since the game is completely in Polish I thought it would be a good idea to add a solution in another language. I found a solution in Polish (found in the net) and translated it to German. I added both files to your installation package, a NewIcon is now available as well. (see the zone)

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jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,160	you could try with SNOOP & CHK tooltips, CHKBLIT. I can try too. Translating a polish solution into german?? but why? why not english?

11 November 2018, 16:19	#40
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,160	That's why I always use command line That's good news. I could have tried that too. I'll remove that write.

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