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Old 27 September 2014, 23:04   #1
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Smile What did the amiga teach you?

Simply put: It was said time and time again that piracy killed the amiga; this I lamented.
As a result I will never download movies or tv shows illegally.
I buy everything. If the shows are not getting ratings they will not be made.

Feel free to mention anything. Programming, music, whatever the amiga taught you.
Hey, it also taught me to love games and great music and game art.
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Old 27 September 2014, 23:36   #2
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Old 27 September 2014, 23:56   #3
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The Amiga taught me how to write music, how to appreciate creative design and that limitations are not necessarily a bad thing, but most importantly it helped me find good friends.
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Old 28 September 2014, 00:05   #4
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Hmmm what did the Amiga teach me......

1. What to expect from an operating system (Workbench)
2. Planar Graphics and Animation (PPaint / DPaint)
3. Music Sequencing / Writing Music (Protracker / Octamed / Sound Studio)
4. How to play a Guitar (AChord / Fast Frett)
5. How to program in 'C'
6. Embedded electronics

From the top of my head
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Old 28 September 2014, 00:12   #5
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Amiga taught me english and to not judge a game in 5 mins.
And it taught me that video games are arts.
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Old 28 September 2014, 00:21   #6
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Old 28 September 2014, 01:04   #7
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Old 28 September 2014, 10:10   #8
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I can credit the Amiga with a lot of things but these are my top few:
Programming (AMOS / Blitz Basic),
Pixel art (DPaint / Brilliance),
3d rendering,
Computer viruses
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Old 28 September 2014, 11:46   #9
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- Computer viruses
- unix command line use
- making friends to swap games with
- computer behaviour understanding enhancement
- many others that are not coming thru yet
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Old 28 September 2014, 13:18   #10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Adrian Browne View Post
Simply put: It was said time and time again that piracy killed the amiga; this I lamented.
As a result I will never download movies or tv shows illegally.
I buy everything. If the shows are not getting ratings they will not be made.

Feel free to mention anything. Programming, music, whatever the amiga taught you.
Hey, it also taught me to love games and great music and game art.
Yea, I'm the same where it comes to buying things I enjoy. I feel dirty downloading films or music from the net.

Anyway I also learnt...

write protecting discs
making a backup copy of discs (Workbench)
not unplugging/hotswapping joysticks & mice whilst the Amiga is switched on
viruses
CLI commands
Comms/BBS etc
That Workbench, whilst pretty primitive these days still kicks ass because of its simplicity, execution, speed, usability, non-bloat et al.
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Old 28 September 2014, 18:18   #11
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That the computer games will be always better than those of the consoles.
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Old 28 September 2014, 21:45   #12
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Hard to say, maybe using a mouse.
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Old 28 September 2014, 21:48   #13
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Many things...

1. how to create tracker mods
2. how to model things in Imagine and lightwave
3. how to beat opponents in Mortal Kombat
4. how to teach drive all my friends in Lotus games

but most importantly, PATIENCE for new releases, SW & HW...
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Old 28 September 2014, 21:57   #14
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Amiga told me what "electric magic" is ...
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Old 29 September 2014, 00:03   #15
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- write music in SONIX and OctaMED
- first time using a mouse
- "painting" in DPaint
- programming (AMOS)
- discovering viruses for the first time - eeek!
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Old 29 September 2014, 00:20   #16
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Actually, I also, had never used a mouse before my first amiga. It took some getting used to.
I also learned how to be a bad loser...many broken joysticks...lol.
I also began to buy magazines for the first time, amiga mags, and not just comics.

I also learned the rudiments of d-paint and had many happy hours mucking about on it.
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Old 29 September 2014, 02:07   #17
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Simply put: It was said time and time again that piracy killed the amiga; this I lamented.
As a result I will never download movies or tv shows illegally.
I buy everything. If the shows are not getting ratings they will not be made.

Feel free to mention anything. Programming, music, whatever the amiga taught you.
Hey, it also taught me to love games and great music and game art.
Appreciate you're not going to necessarily agree with me, bearing in mind my Amiga history.

However, the Amiga taught me that Commodore didn't ever have a clue what it had before it was too late.

Piracy was indeed a problem, but only in so much as so long as new machines were being bought, so were games.

Even upto 1994, Mortal Kombat 2 sold pretty decently according to the programmer of it because of the royalties he personally got from it.

But back onto Commodore.

The first sign of trouble was the CDTV. Sure, great idea, ahead of its time, and a smart looking machine, other than the caddy, it was great..... just a shame then that Commodore tried to distance the Amiga connection as much as possible so that potential buyers were completely flummoxed just what the hell it was supposed to be.

The next problem was AGA and CD32.

Whilst AGA machines are decent enough, when the A1000 was released and for a good few years afterwards when the A500 was released, Amiga was technically king of the hill.

A1200 and A4000 were not.

Commodore screwed them up massively.

What they did right: faster processor, more chip memory, cheaper upgrade paths for peripherals such as hard drives and PCMCIA addons, more colours, more bitplanes.

What they did wrong: Didn't upgrade the blitter to any kind of reasonable degree to cope with the fact it now had to display more bitplanes, audio hardware not increased to 16bit, audio hardware not increased with more sound channels, copper speed not increased so it could do 1 pixel colour reloading, which would have made Doom style games a piece of piss to do.

So yes, piracy was a problem, but the fact is, the A1200 and AGA was simply not good enough to encourage people to stick with Amiga, when technically, AGA was less capable than the current spec PC.

As for the CD32, should have had at least 1 meg of fast ram, should have either been its own system with additional hardware above that of the A1200.

Commodore had to be brain dead to not know that Sega were already working on a replacement for the MegaCD, and it appears Commodore were content to just beat that machine with no eye on the future.

Whilst Sony was new to console hardware manufacturing, they made no fucking secret of the people they were courting for their new PSX project, Psygnosis who made most of their money off the back of their Amiga work, were being feted like pretty virgin brides, and later bought up in their entirety.

I'm sorry, but you just don't underestimate the #1 entertainment company in the world. They had already bought Columbia Pictures in 1989, Sony Imagesoft was setup in the same year, and they at one point were developing an add-on for Nintendo which as it turned out, was the basis of the PSX/Playstation.

So I firmly place the blame on Commodore, plenty of people were rooting for Commodore to do something great, plenty of people WANTED Commodore to do something great........ Commodore just blithely went on and ignored everyone.

Christ, I look back and think the Amiga would have been in better hands if Atari owned it. You only have to look at the improvements in the STe over the STfm and the potential of the Falcon to realise that.
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Old 29 September 2014, 09:04   #18
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Okay bear with me here.. The not so positive of what the Amiga taught me.

When I was 15 my entire world was ripped apart (I not going into this). As a result I ended up in foster care, away from my brothers and sister. My escape was the Amiga. I loved it. I didn't leave my room. Never went to a school. I slept for a couple hours and then I would play games. This is how I remained for 6 years or so.. I never had friends, I didn't learn how to be a sociable person. I was a hermit. I have now been diagnosed with stage 2 social anxiety disorder, and find it difficult meeting new people, I avoid most social events like the plague :-( do I regret this? Yes a little, but what the Amiga taught me was creativity, programming, dpaint, basic game hacking and editing.

Would I change anything. Yes. I'd spend less time Amiga, and have actually learnt to be sociable. I'd be a more successful person now.. Even so I loved my amigas then, and I love it now despite having very little time to do anything nowadays.
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Old 29 September 2014, 09:12   #19
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The Amiga taught me electronics, hacks and mods mainly, but it got me started on this long road which means I now live in London and repair, service and test system critical aviation electronics.

It made me appreciate good electronics design and made me realise I prefer good hardware design miles more than good software design.
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Old 29 September 2014, 09:43   #20
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- how to read schematics
- computer literacy: ie, if you can't find some option/setting in a piece of software, don't give up, but explore the software to find what you need
- the workings of an operating system
- first steps to the internet and unix boxen through jr-comm and terminus
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