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brett71 · 25 November 2019, 22:05

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Originally Posted by klx300r

got my ROMS and disks from them not too long ago for both my 1200 & 4000 with no issues

How long ago was this? Like I said, I can't find 3.1.4 offered on their site anywhere.

acerRI · 26 November 2019, 08:37

You can buy digital version on Hyperion site, but you need to burn eprom and put adf files to floppy disks.
I cannot also see on Amiga On The Lake version 3.1.4, you can maybe sent them email?

redblade · 26 November 2019, 09:59

Hi I just read the amiga.org OS 3.1.4 bug list. Has the boot menu been fixed so that the amiga can now boot in 31khz Workbench mode instead of 15khz?!? I could not find that mentioned on the 12 pages and the hyperion site.

Thanks

Daedalus · 26 November 2019, 12:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by redblade

Has the boot menu been fixed so that the amiga can now boot in 31khz Workbench mode instead of 15khz?!?

I haven't tested it, but that feature is definitely there. There's text on the early startup menu that tells you what to do, IIRC it's pressing Enter to enable 31kHz modes.

That's a feature that was already there in 3.9, and one I made a lot of use of over the years.

ItsTheSmell · 26 November 2019, 12:44

The amiga can boot to 31Khz mode? I assume it needs extra equipment?

coder76 · 26 November 2019, 13:08

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Originally Posted by ItsTheSmell

The amiga can boot to 31Khz mode? I assume it needs extra equipment?

Well, ECS/AGA chipset is needed, but those modes are not too useful on ECS, since it still runs with OCS graphics bandwidth. Good to hear that it has been fixed in 3.1.4.

Daedalus · 26 November 2019, 13:22

Yeah, that's system-friendly stuff only, so won't help with games that hit the hardware directly (i.e. most of them). Essentially it's just including the DblPAL and DblNTSC monitor drivers in Kickstart, so you have the option to start with them.

redblade · 26 November 2019, 19:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daedalus

Yeah, that's system-friendly stuff only, so won't help with games that hit the hardware directly (i.e. most of them). Essentially it's just including the DblPAL and DblNTSC monitor drivers in Kickstart, so you have the option to start with them.

I thought only Productivity 640x240, 640x480 reaches 31khz? It's a shame this wasn't fixed on Kick3.1 (1993). I read the old comp.sys.amiga.advocacy and some guy slammed the A4000 because of it (link was on wikipedia multisync monitors page)

I thought they would of just patched the copperlist instead of load the whole monitor code in ROM. Good to know

Daedalus · 26 November 2019, 22:05

DblPAL and DblNTSC do the high frequencies too, and give appropriate resolutions (640x512 and 640x400 respectively). It wasn't really a thing to be "fixed", the Amiga hardware wasn't originally designed to do that, so any software that wanted to use the original hardware would override any new copper lists. The 3000 included a hardware workaround that was expensive to produce, and therefore was dropped from the 4000, along with SCSI, but that was the only way to have all screenmodes (including games) available at 31kHz. The monitor drivers are essentially a system-friendly way of modifying the copper lists, but the 3.1 ROMs were already full. Those drivers could still be loaded at boot time of course, so the only real advantage of having them in ROM was if there were problems with the system or you needed the early startup menu.

Zippy Zapp · 27 November 2019, 03:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by brett71

How long ago was this? Like I said, I can't find 3.1.4 offered on their site anywhere.

I would send an email to them. When I look at my order history for OS 3.1.4 it shows this:
Unfortunately this product is no longer for sale so it cannot be reordered.

Could it have anything to do with the legal battle with Cloanto?

Ami · 01 December 2019, 08:15

Is OS3.2 going to be free update or not?

P.S. I don't mind paying for it.

gulliver · 01 December 2019, 08:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ami

Is OS3.2 going to be free update or not?

P.S. I don't mind paying for it.

Hi Ami,

AmigaOS 3.2 is a new version that comes with new features.

It will not be free for 3.1.4 owners as far as I know.

PeterK · 01 December 2019, 11:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by gulliver

It will not be free for 3.1.4 owners as far as I know.

No problem, it's ok if 3.2 comes for free for all other Amiga users.

gulliver · 01 December 2019, 11:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeterK

No problem, it's ok if 3.2 comes for free for all other Amiga users.

scu98rkr · 16 December 2019, 09:47

Hi will 3.2 have its own ROMs ? Thinking about buying 3.1.4 + roms. But would prefer to wait if 3.2 comes with ROMs ? Any ideas on release date ?

Thanks Roger

Jope · 16 December 2019, 13:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by scu98rkr

Hi will 3.2 have its own ROMs ?

Yes.

Quote:

Any ideas on release date ?

None given so far.

tech3475 · 26 December 2019, 21:21

I'm starting to wonder if I should buy a chip reader/writer.

McTrinsic · 27 December 2019, 00:02

Or get a ROMulator

aeberbach · 27 December 2019, 08:16

The gglabs F2R16 is a very nice flexible thing - https://gglabs.us/node/2067

You need a programmer and an adapter to make it work but once you have it you can burn any ROM you like, no UV erasing.

tech3475 · 27 December 2019, 10:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by McTrinsic

Or get a ROMulator

I have a 1200, afaik it only exists for the 500/600.

Quote:

Originally Posted by aeberbach

The gglabs F2R16 is a very nice flexible thing - https://gglabs.us/node/2067

You need a programmer and an adapter to make it work but once you have it you can burn any ROM you like, no UV erasing.

Thanks, I’ll look into it.

26 November 2019, 09:59	#963
redblade Zone Friend Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Middle Earth Age: 40 Posts: 2,127	Hi I just read the amiga.org OS 3.1.4 bug list. Has the boot menu been fixed so that the amiga can now boot in 31khz Workbench mode instead of 15khz?!? I could not find that mentioned on the 12 pages and the hyperion site. Thanks Last edited by redblade; 26 November 2019 at 10:04.

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26 November 2019, 08:37	#962
acerRI Registered User Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Rijeka, Croatia Posts: 11	You can buy digital version on Hyperion site, but you need to burn eprom and put adf files to floppy disks. I cannot also see on Amiga On The Lake version 3.1.4, you can maybe sent them email?

26 November 2019, 12:44	#965
ItsTheSmell Registered User Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: New Ferry Posts: 516	The amiga can boot to 31Khz mode? I assume it needs extra equipment?

26 November 2019, 13:22	#967
Daedalus Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dublin, then Glasgow Posts: 6,334	Yeah, that's system-friendly stuff only, so won't help with games that hit the hardware directly (i.e. most of them). Essentially it's just including the DblPAL and DblNTSC monitor drivers in Kickstart, so you have the option to start with them.

26 November 2019, 22:05	#969
Daedalus Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dublin, then Glasgow Posts: 6,334	DblPAL and DblNTSC do the high frequencies too, and give appropriate resolutions (640x512 and 640x400 respectively). It wasn't really a thing to be "fixed", the Amiga hardware wasn't originally designed to do that, so any software that wanted to use the original hardware would override any new copper lists. The 3000 included a hardware workaround that was expensive to produce, and therefore was dropped from the 4000, along with SCSI, but that was the only way to have all screenmodes (including games) available at 31kHz. The monitor drivers are essentially a system-friendly way of modifying the copper lists, but the 3.1 ROMs were already full. Those drivers could still be loaded at boot time of course, so the only real advantage of having them in ROM was if there were problems with the system or you needed the early startup menu.

01 December 2019, 08:15	#971
Ami Registered User Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Poland Posts: 175	Is OS3.2 going to be free update or not? P.S. I don't mind paying for it.

16 December 2019, 09:47	#975
scu98rkr Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Twyford Posts: 90	Hi will 3.2 have its own ROMs ? Thinking about buying 3.1.4 + roms. But would prefer to wait if 3.2 comes with ROMs ? Any ideas on release date ? Thanks Roger

26 December 2019, 21:21	#977
tech3475 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: UK Posts: 77	I'm starting to wonder if I should buy a chip reader/writer.

27 December 2019, 00:02	#978
McTrinsic Registered User Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Germany Posts: 527	Or get a ROMulator

27 December 2019, 08:16	#979
aeberbach Registered User Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 420	The gglabs F2R16 is a very nice flexible thing - https://gglabs.us/node/2067 You need a programmer and an adapter to make it work but once you have it you can burn any ROM you like, no UV erasing.

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