Ripping - Captive

BippyM · 07 April 2005, 20:43

Started another!

I really need to stay commited to the one game eh!!

Anyway this is my all time fave amiga game so I just had to do this!!

It's a difficult one to categorise too as it is mission based, but each mission gfx varies.. so I have just named them Captivex.png etc

The outdoor levels are always same gfx, so are named captivex(outdoor).png

Also only differences between base gfx are the wall tiles, I'll upload the new wall tiles as I finish the respective bases

BippyM · 08 April 2005, 00:19

Only the Space Station gfx left to rip I think

17 September 2005, 16:25

Hi, captive is my favoret amiga game to!!, im new to this web site i was just wondering do you no of any way i can copy my original captive game save disk from 15 years ago, so i can play it on my pc with winuae, ive tryed load's of programs but the image never works. any help would be welcome.

Toni Wilen · 17 September 2005, 17:02

rawread (search older threads) may work with captive's savedisk. (If I remember correctly, it has non-standard format so regular adf readers won't work)

BippyM · 17 September 2005, 18:01

If it's from an original copy then I don't know, do as Toni suggests!

If its from the Classic crack then it writes to a standard Amigados formatted disc and can be converted to adf with any of the current adf progs (Check aminet)

19 September 2005, 14:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

rawread (search older threads) may work with captive's savedisk. (If I remember correctly, it has non-standard format so regular adf readers won't work)

Thanks
I will try this and let you no how i get on...and i will search older threads as well

23 September 2005, 00:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

rawread (search older threads) may work with captive's savedisk. (If I remember correctly, it has non-standard format so regular adf readers won't work)

hi had a go with no luck but!!!!! I downloaded a whdload package specially designed for captive installed it on my original amiga 1200 with hd and i am now transfering it to the pc emulator...i'll keep you posted it looks like it might work, i will have my saved game from 15 years ago on pc forever!! ....I feel like its cheating though, i still havant done what i set out to do.... that is, copy the save game disk into an image on the pc.

23 September 2005, 22:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by bippym

If it's from an original copy then I don't know, do as Toni suggests!

If its from the Classic crack then it writes to a standard Amigados formatted disc and can be converted to adf with any of the current adf progs (Check aminet)

yes yes yes it worked, if anyone would like a save state of my captive game just email, its on mission 4 or 5...its been so long i cant remember!, it has special memoreis for me because it was me and my brother who used to play it my name is sean my brothers was clive, he died in 1991 and it just brings back memories playing it.
SEAN.DONOHUE1@NTLWORLD.COM

Gambit37 · 19 February 2006, 12:26

As discussed in the Knightmare thread, here's a comparison shot of some of the problem images. Basically, anyting with a range of blues or reds in will display the problem (water, clipboard guards, blue doors, fire sprites, etc).

You've swapped the darkest blue with the next one, plus they are a fair bit different from the actual blues.

The red palette has some kind of flesh colour in there, not the rich orange from the game.

Ignore my comments about bright greens -- I realised these must be mapped to the flashing colours in game.

Also, your colours are a bit more washed out which makes me think you may have captured in 16-bit mode rather than 24.

Hope this helps!

BippyM · 19 February 2006, 12:47

Ahh.. I see.. I'll fix this over the next few days

BippyM · 22 February 2006, 18:23

Okay I have decided to re-rip these using the files directly out of the release

Here we go.. any colour problems please let me know

BippyM · 22 February 2006, 18:24

All files are named as they are in the actual game

BippyM · 22 February 2006, 18:26

Next 5

BippyM · 22 February 2006, 18:27

next batch

BippyM · 22 February 2006, 18:28

more

BippyM · 22 February 2006, 18:29

Last set

As you can see the complete set is here now (minus the title screen which I'll do later as it uses a different palette)

Gambit37 · 23 February 2006, 00:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by bippym

Okay I have decided to re-rip these using the files directly out of the release

??? Are these on the floppy in a readable format then?

Sweet rips though! Nice job indeed.

BippyM · 23 February 2006, 00:02

Sort of.. they are RNC compressed and stored as RAW binary files!

I simply decompressed them and loaded the file into the gfx ripper.. Then it was just a case of sorting out the palette on the first one and then re-using the palette for the rest of the rips (The game uses same palette throughout!!)

Lyverbe · 02 September 2007, 14:58

I've been reverse engineering Captive for a couple of months now and saw you guys rippped its graphics from the Amiga version (I'm RE'ing the Atari ST version which is 99% identical). I've found the location of the graphic files and they do begin with "RNC", but the only two RNC decompressors I've found say "CRC error". What did you use to decompress the files?

Ps. Tried to contact bippym privately, but never could find his email address

Galahad/FLT · 02 September 2007, 18:20

The Rob Northen Computing (RNC) compressor also has an option to pass a serial key to the file when being packed, does Captive require a serial key to depack?

If you edit the header of the file, you will see the 'RNC' header and the next byte after that should have 1, 2 or 3 to tell you what pack type was used.

There exists RNC depackers on Amiga and PC and I would assume ST, if you are using the ST version, consider using one of the other two as there maybe improvements considering RNC Propack (to give it its full name) was used considerably longer on Amiga than it was on ST.

07 April 2005, 20:43	#1
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	Ripping - Captive Started another! I really need to stay commited to the one game eh!! Anyway this is my all time fave amiga game so I just had to do this!! It's a difficult one to categorise too as it is mission based, but each mission gfx varies.. so I have just named them Captivex.png etc The outdoor levels are always same gfx, so are named captivex(outdoor).png Also only differences between base gfx are the wall tiles, I'll upload the new wall tiles as I finish the respective bases Last edited by BippyM; 22 February 2006 at 18:23.

17 September 2005, 16:25	#3
deepshadow Posts: n/a	hi bippym Hi, captive is my favoret amiga game to!!, im new to this web site i was just wondering do you no of any way i can copy my original captive game save disk from 15 years ago, so i can play it on my pc with winuae, ive tryed load's of programs but the image never works. any help would be welcome.

19 February 2006, 12:26	#9
Gambit37 Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: xxx Posts: 25	As discussed in the Knightmare thread, here's a comparison shot of some of the problem images. Basically, anyting with a range of blues or reds in will display the problem (water, clipboard guards, blue doors, fire sprites, etc). You've swapped the darkest blue with the next one, plus they are a fair bit different from the actual blues. The red palette has some kind of flesh colour in there, not the rich orange from the game. Ignore my comments about bright greens -- I realised these must be mapped to the flashing colours in game. Also, your colours are a bit more washed out which makes me think you may have captured in 16-bit mode rather than 24. Hope this helps! Attached Thumbnails

22 February 2006, 18:24	#12
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	All files are named as they are in the actual game Attached Thumbnails

22 February 2006, 18:26	#13
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	Next 5 Attached Thumbnails

08 April 2005, 00:19	#2
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	Only the Space Station gfx left to rip I think

17 September 2005, 17:02	#4
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,518	rawread (search older threads) may work with captive's savedisk. (If I remember correctly, it has non-standard format so regular adf readers won't work)

17 September 2005, 18:01	#5
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	If it's from an original copy then I don't know, do as Toni suggests! If its from the Classic crack then it writes to a standard Amigados formatted disc and can be converted to adf with any of the current adf progs (Check aminet)

19 February 2006, 12:47	#10
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	Ahh.. I see.. I'll fix this over the next few days

22 February 2006, 18:23	#11
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	Okay I have decided to re-rip these using the files directly out of the release Here we go.. any colour problems please let me know

22 February 2006, 18:27	#14
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	next batch Attached Thumbnails

22 February 2006, 18:28	#15
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	more Attached Thumbnails

22 February 2006, 18:29	#16
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	Last set As you can see the complete set is here now (minus the title screen which I'll do later as it uses a different palette) Attached Thumbnails

23 February 2006, 00:02	#18
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	Sort of.. they are RNC compressed and stored as RAW binary files! I simply decompressed them and loaded the file into the gfx ripper.. Then it was just a case of sorting out the palette on the first one and then re-using the palette for the rest of the rips (The game uses same palette throughout!!)

02 September 2007, 14:58	#19
Lyverbe Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Montreal, Canada Age: 55 Posts: 68	Bringing an old thread back to life! I've been reverse engineering Captive for a couple of months now and saw you guys rippped its graphics from the Amiga version (I'm RE'ing the Atari ST version which is 99% identical). I've found the location of the graphic files and they do begin with "RNC", but the only two RNC decompressors I've found say "CRC error". What did you use to decompress the files? Ps. Tried to contact bippym privately, but never could find his email address

02 September 2007, 18:20	#20
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 9,004	The Rob Northen Computing (RNC) compressor also has an option to pass a serial key to the file when being packed, does Captive require a serial key to depack? If you edit the header of the file, you will see the 'RNC' header and the next byte after that should have 1, 2 or 3 to tell you what pack type was used. There exists RNC depackers on Amiga and PC and I would assume ST, if you are using the ST version, consider using one of the other two as there maybe improvements considering RNC Propack (to give it its full name) was used considerably longer on Amiga than it was on ST.

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