BetterWB 4.0 27-February-2015

[daxb]

http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/fat95

System requirements
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* every AMIGA, OS 1.3+ (OS 2.0+ for full functionality)
* a suitable device file for low level disk access, like the mfm.device for floppies.

[lesta_smsc]

Originally Posted by daxb

http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/fat95

System requirements
===================

* every AMIGA, OS 1.3+ (OS 2.0+ for full functionality)
* a suitable device file for low level disk access, like the mfm.device for floppies.

Thanks again! Just realised this is not an alternative to WB 1.3 lol, don't have a harddrive on my A500 - what was I thinking lol.

[ajack]

BetterWB never stops amazing me...

[Jope]

Originally Posted by Hewitson

Why wouldn't you use CrossDOS?

The one that ships with 3.1 doesn't do long filenames. The commercial version does. Fat95 is free, so no need to buy/steal the commercial crossdos.

[ajack]

Can I request that LoadModule be included into future BetterWB installations?

[gulliver]

Originally Posted by ajack

Can I request that LoadModule be included into future BetterWB installations?

If it works on a 68000 then I might include it.
Now, may I ask why would you want it in BetterWB?

[ajack]

Originally Posted by gulliver

If it works on a 68000 then I might include it.
Now, may I ask why would you want it in BetterWB?

Install updated scsi.device. LoadModule works with the 68000 but am using it for my A1200.

[gulliver]

Originally Posted by ajack

Install updated scsi.device. LoadModule works with the 68000 but am using it for my A1200.

Fair enough. It will be included in the next release.

[kolla]

Zshell? That's gutsy
Zshell has an annoying "feature" iirc, a script cannot source another script.

Maybe you can ask ThoR about inclusion of newer shell too in BetterWB.

[gulliver]

Originally Posted by kolla

Maybe you can ask ThoR about inclusion of newer shell too in BetterWB.

It is actually a good idea.

Thank you for the suggestion.

[ajack]

Is there is a better or updated HDToolBox/HDInst which we can use? Perhaps something to break the 8GB barrier? Or is it too late to install with BetterWB and needs to be done prior to installing WB 3.1 on CF/HDD?

[gulliver]

Originally Posted by ajack

Is there is a better or updated HDToolBox/HDInst which we can use? Perhaps something to break the 8GB barrier? Or is it too late to install with BetterWB and needs to be done prior to installing WB 3.1 on CF/HDD?

To support large drives on an Amiga you need both an updated FastFileFilesystem and scsi.device for a start. Anyway, big drive geometry can be manually set in HDToolBox/HDInst without issues but requires some slightly advanced knowledge.

AmigaOS 3.1 by default properly supports drives up to 4GB. You can use bigger drives (up to 128GB, if I am not mistaken) but only partitions in the first 4GB will be recognized and properly used.

BetterWB updates FastFileFilesystem from 3.1 extending the partition recognition and use up to 8GB (remember to use the quickformat option, not the full format for this).

Anyway, I suggest you use PFS3 (which is already included in BetterWB) which is a better Filesystem in all aspects and can overcome the drive limits. Take a look at its documentation to properly set up and use or follow the guidelines set in a thread about it here in EAB.

[DonAmiga]

Been re doing my cdtv and just installed your BetterWB. Great Stuff Thanks

[gulliver]

Originally Posted by DonAmiga

Been re doing my cdtv and just installed your BetterWB. Great Stuff Thanks

I am glad you found it useful.

Anyway, I am open to criticism and suggestions if you have any.

[amiwolf]

Will BetterWB install correctly over the latest OS3.1 from Cloanto? That is to say, can it adapt to the changes they made; updated and/or differently located components, new startup-sequence, etc?

[Michael Sykes]

Originally Posted by amiwolf

Will BetterWB install correctly over the latest OS3.1 from Cloanto? That is to say, can it adapt to the changes they made; updated and/or differently located components, new startup-sequence, etc?

What exactly did they change? It has been years since I bought something from Cloanto.Just curious...

[amiwolf]

Originally Posted by Michael Sykes

What exactly did they change? It has been years since I bought something from Cloanto.Just curious...

Amiga Forever Workbench 3.1 Improvements

The improvements are minor but could be enough to confuse BetterWB's installation script.

[gulliver]

The "new" AmigaOS 3.1 from Cloanto should be compatible with BetterWB.
Changes from the original 3.1 are very little.

[amiwolf]

Originally Posted by gulliver

The "new" AmigaOS 3.1 from Cloanto should be compatible with BetterWB.
Changes from the original 3.1 are very little.

Thank you, gulliver. Gotta say BetterWB's the Bee's Knees. I reckon 68000 Amiga's needed another OS revision before being abandoned by 3.5 and your project fills that gap. Kudos!

[prowler]

Originally Posted by amiwolf

Thank you, gulliver. Gotta say BetterWB's the Bee's Knees. I reckon 68000 Amiga's needed another OS revision before being abandoned by 3.5 and your project fills that gap. Kudos!

Well said, that man!