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Old 04 November 2015, 14:21   #1
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Amiga Games at 50 fps

So, as I was looking around and didn't find a similar thread listing 50 fps games, I thought I'd start this one. Plz, tell me what should I add in this list after tested with newest winuae beta. I think we should include games that may have small framedrops/slow downs here and there, but they are for the larger part running at the 50 fps (60 fps for NTSC) mark.
The following lists are pretty accurate now thx to Toni Willen's new winuae feature, showing screen changes at the border and also thx to Retro Nerd for doing the bulk of the work under this new winuae version:

50 FPS (both AGA and ECS versions, when available, unless noted)

Acsys
Alien 3
Alien Breed (FS)
Alien Breed II (FS) (O)
Alien Breed Tower Assault (FS) (O)
Anarchy (FS)
Apache (FS) (O)
Apano Sin (FS)
Apidya (FS)
Apprentice
Aquanaut - 1995 F1 Licenseware
Armalyte (N)
Assasin Special Edition (FS) (O)
Assassin (FS) (O)
Atax
ATR - All Terrain Racing (FS) (O)
Aunt Arctic Adventure
Battle Valley
BC Kid (FS)
Beastlord (FS)
Beavers
Bio Challenge
Blastar (FS)
Blues Brothers
Bram Stoker's Dracula
Brian the Lion (N) (FS)
Bubba 'n' Stix (FS)
Bubble and Squeak (FS)
Calephar (N) (FS)
Car V Up (N) (FS)
Carcharodon - White Sharks
Cardiaxx (FS)
Caveman Ninja
Cedric and the Lost Sceptre
Celtic Heart (FS)
Charlie J. Cool (FS)
Chrome
Chuck Rock (FS)
Chuck Rock II (FS)
Cliffhanger
Cool World
Crazy Sue (FS)
Crazy Sue Goes On (FS)
Creatures (FS)
Creepy
Cyberpunks
Cytron (FS)
Dangerous Streets
Death Trap
Deathbots (N)
Deluxe Galaga (FS)
Dennis
Disposable Hero (N) (FS)
Doofus (FS)
Double Dragon 3 (N) (FS)
Dragon Spirit
Dyter-07
Elfmania (FS)
Fantastic Voyage
Fighting Spirit (FS)
Firefly
Firefoce
Flimbo's Quest
Gainforce
Gemini Wing
Ghosts 'n' Goblins (FS)
Goal! (FS)
Gotcha (FS)
Gravity-Force
Great Giana Sisters (FS)
Hagar the Horrible
Hard'n Heavy
Harlequin (FS)
Hellbent
Hudson Hawk
Hybris (FS)
Inferior (FS)
Insects in Space
Inviyya
James Pond 1
James Pond 2 Robocod (FS)
James Pond 3
Jim Power (FS) (O)
Jimmy's Fantastic Journey (FS)
Jump n' Roll
Kid Chaos (FS)
Kid Gloves 2
Land of Genesis
Leander (FS)
Lethal Weapon (FS)
Lionheart (N) (FS)
Lolly Pop
Marvin's Marvelous Adventure (FS)
Masteraxe (FS)
McDonald Land
Mega Typhoon (FS)
Menace
Metal Law (FS) (O)
Mr. Beanbag (FS)
Mr. Nutz (FS)
Naughty Ones
Navy Seals
Nicky Boom (FS)
Nicky II (FS)
Odyssey (FS)
Operation Firestorm (FS)
Ork (FS)
Oscar
Overdrive [Team 17] (FS)
Overkill (FS) (N)
Outzone
P.P. Hammer and His Pneumatic Weapon
Pacmania
Pang
Paramax
Parasol Stars (FS)
Phobia
Pinball Dreams, Fantasies, Illusions (FS)
Pinkie
Plotting
Plutos
Puggsy
Quasarius
Quicksilva (FS)
Quik the Thunder Rabbit (FS)
Qwak (FS)
Rackney's Island (FS)
Rat Trap (FS)
Reshoot (FS)
Reshoot R (FS)
Risky Woods
Roadkill (FS)
Rock'n Roll
Rolling Ronny (FS)
Rotator (FS)
Ruffian (FS)
Rygar
Scooby-Doo and Scrappy-Doo
Sensible World of Soccer (FS)
Seven Gates of Jambala
Shadow Fighter (FS)
Shadow of the Beast I - III (FS)
Silkworm
Slam Tilt (FS) (O)
Sleepwalker (FS)
Snow Bros
Soccer Kid (FS) (N)
Solid Gold (FS)
Sorceror's Apprentice
Speris Legacy (FS) (O)
Spindizzy Worlds
Sqrxz1 (FS)
Sqrxz3 (FS)
Sqrxz4 (FS)
Standard Deviation
StarRay
Starrush (N) (FS)
Suburban Commando (N)
Super Cauldron
Super Frog (FS) (O)
Super Street Fighter II AGA (N) (FS)
Switchblade II (FS) (O)
Sword (FS)
Tearaway Thomas
Terry's Big Adventure
The Adventures of Quick & Silva (FS)
The Plague (FS)
The Simpsons - Bart vs. The Space Mutants
Thesius XII (FS)
Tin Toy Adventure in the House of Fun
Titus the Fox
Tony and his Friends in Kellog's Land
Total Recall
Trap Runner (FS)
Traps'n Treasures
Trolls
Turbo Trax (FS) (O)
Turrican Series (N) (FS)
Twinworld
Universal Warrior (FS)
Unreal (N)
Uridium II (FS)
Vader
Venus the Fly Trap (FS)
Warp
Wiz'n Liz (FS)
Wonder Dog
Woodys World (FS)
Worthy (FS)
X-Out
XR35 (FS)
Yoe Joe! (FS)
Yogi's Great Escape
Zerosphere (FS)
Zool (FS)
Zool II (FS)


25 FPS games with smooth scrolling

Apache Flight
Blazing Thunder
Blood Money
Bomber Bob
Datastorm
Dragon Breed (N) (FS)
Foundation's Waste
Intact (N)
Kamikaze
Katakis
Killing Machine
Legends (FS)
Lunar-C
Midnight Resistance
Powder (FS)
Rainbow Islands
R-Type (FS)
Saint Dragon
Sarcophaser
Scramble Spirits
Sonic Boom
Starbirds (FS)
Super Street Fighter II ECS
SWIV (FS) (O)
The Oath
Time Soldier
Tubular Worlds
Ultra Violent Worlds
Violator
Virocop (FS)
Watchtower
Wendetta 2175 (FS)
XP8 (FS)
Ziriax
Z-Out (FS)


Mixed FPS

Agony (N)
Banshee
Battle Squadron (N) (FS)
Flink (FS)
Hoi (N) (FS)
Lethal Xcess (FS)
Project-X (FS) (O)
Rage v1 (ubi soft) (FS)
Rage v2 (ubi soft) (FS)
Sidewinder (FS)
Stardust (FS) (N)
Super Stardust (FS) (N)
T-Racer (FS)
T-Zero (FS)
The Addams Family (N) (FS)
Whizz (FS)

Legend:
(N) - Game works ok on NTSC and keeps its equivalent frame rate (30/60 fps). Also the gameplay area must remain intact to qualify.
(FS) - Gameplay area is Full Screen (at least 288x200 , or the same amount of pixels)
(O) - Game seems to be using some overscan technique

If a game has both OCS and AGA versions and there's no indicator about it, it means both versions have been tested and work the same way.
The grading of the games in the list is not complete regarding the (N) , (FS) and (O) attributes, just what is checked so far.

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Old 04 November 2015, 14:46   #2
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lion king,
mr nutz
tubular worlds
toki
lion heart

is very evident they run at 25fps

you can add to the list james pond 2 and 3 and Assasin SE
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Old 04 November 2015, 14:56   #3
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lion king,
mr nutz
tubular worlds
toki
lion heart

is very evident they run at 25fps
Mr. Nutz and Lionheart are of course full 50fps games. Katakis is missing.
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Old 04 November 2015, 15:06   #4
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NOTHING by Tiertex!
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Old 04 November 2015, 15:34   #5
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Mr. Nutz and Lionheart are of course full 50fps games. Katakis is missing.
we can discuss about mr nutz
but
lionheart is fantastic game but very slow/jerky it seems it runs at 15 fps

to compare the smoothness of lionheart you can try some lionheart remake by Byron 3D Games Studio
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Old 04 November 2015, 15:37   #6
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you can add Cytron and Watch tower AGA

they are both very smooth ,fact they run at 50 fps
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Old 04 November 2015, 16:06   #7
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LOL, what? Lionheart runs at 15fps? It may have intentionally slow animations, but scrolling and animation is 50fps for sure. Are you sure you run Amiga games on a proper 50Hz display?

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Old 04 November 2015, 16:20   #8
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Nice joke. Looks like 10-15fps CPC or ZX Spectrum games. Tiertex, yeah!
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Nice joke. Looks like 10-15fps CPC or ZX Spectrum games. Tiertex, yeah!
The CPC version is faster...really.
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Scrolling yes. Sprites animation is only 25fps.
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Deluxe Galaga, of course

Wiz Kid

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Old 04 November 2015, 21:10   #15
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Added everything you've mentioned (how could I forget Mr Beanbag!) plus Alien Breed Tower Assault AGA - if you believe other alien breed games are 50 fps as well, plz let me know. I've also put an asterisk to Lionheart and I'll do so for every game that has a disputed frame rate. For the record, I've tried it again and it truly feels like 50/60 fps. More over, I've ran it on winuae with frame skip 1 and there's a visible difference - doesn't that mean it's a true 50fps game?

Do you think I should also make a category for mixed frame rates like Battle Squadron and Banshee?
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What? Lionheart? Frameskip doesn't give you real smooth scrolling. If you don't have a 50Hz display you can only try to run it in NTSC/60Hz mode. Then it's smooth but with too fast music. But to be clear: Lionheart is full 50fps, despite was Sandro said.
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That's what I said, with frame skip 1 the scrolling wasn't smooth under winuae, thus it must be a 50/60 fps game.
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we should ask Toni if there is the possibility of adding some feature in winuae to check how many fps the games are running on
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That would be a great idea if it's possible!
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How? A PAL Amiga always ouputs 50fps@50Hz. No matter if scrolling and animation runs with lower speed. Technically impossible probably.
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