Scanlines or NO scanlines? - Page 14

killergorilla · 10 April 2007, 03:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

no scanlines is only good when recording movies for RAG.

So why do you watch them without scanlines but play them with scanlines? Make up your mind

You just don't want to admit you love NO SCANLINES!

dlfrsilver · 10 April 2007, 04:16

arghhhh no kggg ^^ !!! don't try to corrupt me

I don't heard the word NO, my ears only hear blank sound

lol

Bamiga2002 · 10 April 2007, 06:48

Scanlines where it looks fit, like in C64-emulation, NES-emulation or NeoGeo games (which used scanlines in the arcades too).

Chain · 10 April 2007, 08:14

Real miggy with vgabox on 17" trinitron screen

and closeup

looks very good to me with any scan whatever lines

s2325 · 10 April 2007, 12:10

Inferior http://hol.abime.net/3644 have butt-ugly scanlines in intro.

Ironclaw · 10 April 2007, 12:34

Duke · 15 April 2007, 13:50

Final Burn Alpha has some very nice effects:

dlfrsilver · 15 April 2007, 18:35

wow !!! this one is fabulous !!! and the scanlines are very good too!

NOB · 15 April 2007, 20:31

Interesting!, never seen this effect.But it looks great!

Anubis · 16 April 2007, 03:55

That's most stupid thing I ever seen...

dlfrsilver · 16 April 2007, 08:47

no way pal !!!!

NOB · 16 April 2007, 17:51

Scanlines:Now available on AMIGA!

Ironclaw · 16 April 2007, 18:38

I still feel dirty.

Anubis · 16 April 2007, 18:57

Is it because you're using scanline on your windows that you didn't see which option to select??

And most importantly, are you from Florida?

eternalcrusader · 16 April 2007, 18:58

Inspired by this thread I started using scanlines and took a few steps back from the monitor

I've got a PC with WinUAE and a 19" monitor and I used to sit right infront of the monitor. I changed my windows to a lower resolution and now I'm sitting on my bed, maybe about a meter and a half from the monitor. It feels like the scanlines look better here but when I get close to the monitor they get annoying.

Also gotta turn up the brightness a little bit when using scanlines 'cos the image gets a bit darker.

s2325 · 17 April 2007, 14:18

With scanlines Amiga Silkworm look like Amstrad CPC version.

mr_a500 · 10 June 2007, 06:14

I voted scanlines. Scandoubled screens may be brighter (on VGA - RGB non-interlace with true scanlines has no brightness problem), but they look like blocky crap. Just take a look at a sphere or curved line. The blank lines help with the illusion of roundness. If you double the lines in between (thereby altering the original display), a sphere becomes a jagged square and a curve becomes a jagged line.

I'm not too thrilled about how scanlines are implemented in WinUAE though - especially because they're just black lines and if you switch quickly to an interlaced screen they're still there and moving the pointer removes the scanlines one by one (?!).

Now that most emulators have reached near-perfect emulation of various systems, I think the most important emulation improvement in the future will be "display emulation". Emulation can never be perfect until you can reproduce the same glow & scanlines (even flicker) of original displays.

Shoonay · 01 July 2007, 16:20

Did I vote in this poll and said how much I hate scanlines? IIRC I did.
What's more, I hereby encourage *everyone* (no matter if you already did or not

) to do so, too!

Graham Humphrey · 01 July 2007, 17:38

I hope you're not about to set off World War 3, Shoonay

Shoonay · 01 July 2007, 17:44

Nah, things are cool as can get and will stay that way!

... until...

View Poll Results: Scanlines or NO scanlines?
Yes, I prefer scanlines.	81	29.14%
No, I don't like scanlines.	173	62.23%
I don't care which one. Any would do fine for me.	24	8.63%
Voters: 278. You may not vote on this poll

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10 April 2007, 04:16	#262
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	arghhhh no kggg ^^ !!! don't try to corrupt me I don't heard the word NO, my ears only hear blank sound lol

10 April 2007, 06:48	#263
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 46 Posts: 3,210	Scanlines where it looks fit, like in C64-emulation, NES-emulation or NeoGeo games (which used scanlines in the arcades too).

10 April 2007, 08:14	#264
Chain A-Collector, repairments Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Czech Rep. Age: 50 Posts: 1,536	Real miggy with vgabox on 17" trinitron screen and closeup looks very good to me with any scan whatever lines

10 April 2007, 12:10	#265
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	Inferior http://hol.abime.net/3644 have butt-ugly scanlines in intro.

10 April 2007, 12:34	#266
Ironclaw Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: ... Age: 45 Posts: 3,313

15 April 2007, 13:50	#267
Duke HOL-Team Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Age: 43 Posts: 520	Final Burn Alpha has some very nice effects:

15 April 2007, 18:35	#268
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	wow !!! this one is fabulous !!! and the scanlines are very good too!

15 April 2007, 20:31	#269
NOB Zone Friend Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 424	Interesting!, never seen this effect.But it looks great!

16 April 2007, 03:55	#270
Anubis Retro Gamer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Underworld Age: 51 Posts: 4,058	That's most stupid thing I ever seen...

16 April 2007, 08:47	#271
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	no way pal !!!!

16 April 2007, 17:51	#272
NOB Zone Friend Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 424	Scanlines:Now available on AMIGA!

16 April 2007, 18:38	#273
Ironclaw Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: ... Age: 45 Posts: 3,313	I still feel dirty.

16 April 2007, 18:57	#274
Anubis Retro Gamer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Underworld Age: 51 Posts: 4,058	Is it because you're using scanline on your windows that you didn't see which option to select?? And most importantly, are you from Florida?

16 April 2007, 18:58	#275
eternalcrusader Zone Fiend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Finland Posts: 61	Inspired by this thread I started using scanlines and took a few steps back from the monitor I've got a PC with WinUAE and a 19" monitor and I used to sit right infront of the monitor. I changed my windows to a lower resolution and now I'm sitting on my bed, maybe about a meter and a half from the monitor. It feels like the scanlines look better here but when I get close to the monitor they get annoying. Also gotta turn up the brightness a little bit when using scanlines 'cos the image gets a bit darker.

17 April 2007, 14:18	#276
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	With scanlines Amiga Silkworm look like Amstrad CPC version.

10 June 2007, 06:14	#277
mr_a500 Amiga-based Cyborg Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 808	I voted scanlines. Scandoubled screens may be brighter (on VGA - RGB non-interlace with true scanlines has no brightness problem), but they look like blocky crap. Just take a look at a sphere or curved line. The blank lines help with the illusion of roundness. If you double the lines in between (thereby altering the original display), a sphere becomes a jagged square and a curve becomes a jagged line. I'm not too thrilled about how scanlines are implemented in WinUAE though - especially because they're just black lines and if you switch quickly to an interlaced screen they're still there and moving the pointer removes the scanlines one by one (?!). Now that most emulators have reached near-perfect emulation of various systems, I think the most important emulation improvement in the future will be "display emulation". Emulation can never be perfect until you can reproduce the same glow & scanlines (even flicker) of original displays.

01 July 2007, 16:20	#278
Shoonay Global Caturator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Porando Age: 43 Posts: 6,105	Did I vote in this poll and said how much I hate scanlines? IIRC I did. What's more, I hereby encourage everyone (no matter if you already did or not ) to do so, too!

01 July 2007, 17:38	#279
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	I hope you're not about to set off World War 3, Shoonay

01 July 2007, 17:44	#280
Shoonay Global Caturator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Porando Age: 43 Posts: 6,105	Nah, things are cool as can get and will stay that way! ... until...

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