Were there any great Amiga hacks (ie remakes using new gfx)

ImmortalA1000 · 14 July 2009, 03:11

For example did anyone take Shadow Fighter/Fightin' Spirit and replace the graphics with Street Fighter 2 style graphics for example. Or did anyone hack the Lotus II game and replace the graphics with some Outrun style graphics?

It kinda irks me that both many conversions were pretty poor and yet there were some amazingly good game engines that with a change of graphics would have been a more professional compromise.

I think any slightly taxing arcade game usually got a really bad conversion on the Amiga. Look at Gauntlet II FFS, it looks about the same as a Sega 8-bit. And to add insult to injury we didn't even get an ST port of the original game (who's only problem was scratchy samples and lack of fast scrolling, both of which any US Gold monkey brain coder could have avoided in hardware)

TCD · 14 July 2009, 07:50

Boo Boo and viddi made a 'hack' of Super Street Fighter II : http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=41499
Look at post #9 for the cleaned up graphics

Would be really interesting if there were any similar projects.

extralife · 14 July 2009, 08:32

Does our very own old fart stingray's lotus game count as a hack ?? I guess not, but it's a very cool remake anyways, was it 96k ??

But surely the aga version of EOB I+II, with LOL style map's would coun't as a hack and it just made those 2 games, so much better, not so much the converted graphics, but the fact that we now have a map, thats just an awesome little change to a couple of superb games

alexh · 14 July 2009, 09:05

Elite Advance
Stunt Car Racer TNT

Not so much new gfx as new gameplay.

Retro1234 · 14 July 2009, 09:57

Theres loads of these crazzy hacks on consoles.
Ive been learning a Little Bit about Editing Raw graphics and editing Map data -This started with SSF2
Using Exl`s SuperFrog editor - changed Sprites and tiles of SuperFrog to Sonic - made little demo.
Games that are NDOS and call locations seem hard - I tested editing the Sprite in Great Giana but this was too much work.

Joe Maroni -has also started a Yo Joe editor.

Hungry Horace`s Mega lo Mania editor you can change the graphics of the Gods maybe to your friends faces or the SNES gods -
edit maps e.t.c

ImmortalA1000 · 14 July 2009, 11:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

Boo Boo and viddi made a 'hack' of Super Street Fighter II : http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=41499
Look at post #9 for the cleaned up graphics

Would be really interesting if there were any similar projects.

I thought that was just modifying the A1200 version so it ran on a CD32 (and very nice work it is too). My main point was that sadly the Amiga had some terrible conversions like Outrun or Chase HQ when game engines existed that were just as good as some arcade games. The Lotus II engine is incredible, the same game on a PC needs more than 10x the CPU power something like a 50mhz 68030.

Actually Magnetic Fields also did a platform game with a great game engine....mario...sonic?

TCD · 14 July 2009, 11:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImmortalA1000

My main point was that sadly the Amiga had some terrible conversions like Outrun or Chase HQ when game engines existed that were just as good as some arcade games.

Outrun is indeed a very good example. Most 'hacks' are indeed new content only like alexh said and not imporvements to the actual engine (which is of course a lot more work). I really can't remember any improved engines for games on the Miggy.

Simmo76 · 14 July 2009, 13:30

Are any of the above mentioned hacks available anywhere as an adf download? (Obviously NOT the CD version of SSF2 though..!)
I would dearly love to try the 96k Lotus game, but every time I've downloaded it in the past it's been in Amiga file format (folders and stuff), which:
A) My aged brain can't remember what to do with and...
B) My Amiga emulation is done on my trusty XBOX and I don't think it will work, even if I knew what I was doing....

Harrison · 14 July 2009, 14:18

Someone recently updated Gods and released their new version for the PC. It plays exactly the same, but has more polished updated graphics and sound. I will post a link when I find it.

s2325 · 14 July 2009, 14:20

But Gods have graphics almost perfect, how it's possible?

TCD · 14 July 2009, 14:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harrison

Someone recently updated Gods and released their new version for the PC. It plays exactly the same, but has more polished updated graphics and sound. I will post a link when I find it.

Do you mean jotd's version : http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=32979 ?

jotd · 14 July 2009, 20:31

it's not a hack, it's a remake, so not sure that it counts.

Retro1234 · 14 July 2009, 23:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImmortalA1000

Actually Magnetic Fields also did a platform game with a great game engine....mario...sonic?

Hmmmm interesting idea

someone needs to rip the graphics - cos im shit with GfxRip.

14 July 2009, 03:11	#1
ImmortalA1000 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: london/england Posts: 1,347	Were there any great Amiga hacks (ie remakes using new gfx) For example did anyone take Shadow Fighter/Fightin' Spirit and replace the graphics with Street Fighter 2 style graphics for example. Or did anyone hack the Lotus II game and replace the graphics with some Outrun style graphics? It kinda irks me that both many conversions were pretty poor and yet there were some amazingly good game engines that with a change of graphics would have been a more professional compromise. I think any slightly taxing arcade game usually got a really bad conversion on the Amiga. Look at Gauntlet II FFS, it looks about the same as a Sega 8-bit. And to add insult to injury we didn't even get an ST port of the original game (who's only problem was scratchy samples and lack of fast scrolling, both of which any US Gold monkey brain coder could have avoided in hardware)

14 July 2009, 09:57	#5
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	Theres loads of these crazzy hacks on consoles. Ive been learning a Little Bit about Editing Raw graphics and editing Map data -This started with SSF2 Using Exl`s SuperFrog editor - changed Sprites and tiles of SuperFrog to Sonic - made little demo. Games that are NDOS and call locations seem hard - I tested editing the Sprite in Great Giana but this was too much work. Joe Maroni -has also started a Yo Joe editor. Hungry Horace`s Mega lo Mania editor you can change the graphics of the Gods maybe to your friends faces or the SNES gods - edit maps e.t.c Last edited by Retro1234; 14 July 2009 at 10:15.

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14 July 2009, 07:50	#2
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,522	Boo Boo and viddi made a 'hack' of Super Street Fighter II : http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=41499 Look at post #9 for the cleaned up graphics Would be really interesting if there were any similar projects.

14 July 2009, 08:32	#3
extralife Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: denmark Posts: 268	Does our very own old fart stingray's lotus game count as a hack ?? I guess not, but it's a very cool remake anyways, was it 96k ?? But surely the aga version of EOB I+II, with LOL style map's would coun't as a hack and it just made those 2 games, so much better, not so much the converted graphics, but the fact that we now have a map, thats just an awesome little change to a couple of superb games

14 July 2009, 09:05	#4
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	Elite Advance Stunt Car Racer TNT Not so much new gfx as new gameplay.

14 July 2009, 13:30	#8
Simmo76 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Derby, UK Age: 47 Posts: 233	Are any of the above mentioned hacks available anywhere as an adf download? (Obviously NOT the CD version of SSF2 though..!) I would dearly love to try the 96k Lotus game, but every time I've downloaded it in the past it's been in Amiga file format (folders and stuff), which: A) My aged brain can't remember what to do with and... B) My Amiga emulation is done on my trusty XBOX and I don't think it will work, even if I knew what I was doing....

14 July 2009, 14:18	#9
Harrison classicamiga.com Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: UK Age: 50 Posts: 155	Someone recently updated Gods and released their new version for the PC. It plays exactly the same, but has more polished updated graphics and sound. I will post a link when I find it.

14 July 2009, 14:20	#10
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	But Gods have graphics almost perfect, how it's possible?

14 July 2009, 20:31	#12
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,162	it's not a hack, it's a remake, so not sure that it counts.

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