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Old 24 July 2015, 02:45   #1
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Joystick with 2 button support

Which joysticks offer support for two separate buttons on the Amiga? I noticed many Nintendo and Sega models around, but not sure if they are Amiga compatible.

I'm looking for a classic style (i.e. Quickshot II Turbo) joystick, not Competition Pro style or gamepad.
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Old 24 July 2015, 07:41   #2
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You can always modify your joystick in order to have two separated fire buttons but in order to do that you need a cable with 9 wires (actually even 7 would be enough but it is difficult to find a cable with exactly the 7 wires you need). 7 wires are for directions, ground, fire1 an fire2. The remaining 2 wires are for +5v (useful for autofire circuits) and fire3 (unused). On the Internet there are lot of schematics like this one:
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Unfortunately I'm not able to modify the hardware myself.
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You can always modify your joystick in order to have two separated fire buttons but in order to do that you need a cable with 9 wires (actually even 7 would be enough but it is difficult to find a cable with exactly the 7 wires you need). 7 wires are for directions, ground, fire1 an fire2. The remaining 2 wires are for +5v (useful for autofire circuits) and fire3 (unused). On the Internet there are lot of schematics like this one:
Think you will find pin 6 is Button 1 and 9 is Button 2.
Pin 5 wont be 5v, thats pin 7.
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Old 24 July 2015, 15:51   #5
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Get any joystick that would work on a Sega Master System. Quickshot used to make models that with the flick of a switch would support two buttons. They might not be of the form factor you want though.
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Think you will find pin 6 is Button 1 and 9 is Button 2.
Pin 5 wont be 5v, thats pin 7.
You are right, mate, I just took the first image I've found on the Internet but that's not 100% exact. This one is correct:

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I'm actually connecting to a PC system, using the Retronic USB joystick adapter, and they just added an Amstrad CPC firmware. So the CPC464 mode of the QuickShot II Turbo joystick offers two independent buttons now, when using the Amstrad CPC firmware.

I didn't need to look for new joystick after all
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the standard Amiga 2nd button not works in all games ie Aladdin, BCkid etc
some games needs a 1k resistor connected to pin 9 and pin 7 (+5v)
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this is wrong

correct amiga joystick pinouts here
http://www.allpinouts.org/index.php/...ck_Amiga_9_pin
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Yep, that looks like the Sega pinout - though it does mean that Mastersystem controllers work as if they were Amiga controllers...
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The only joysticks I can think of that have 2-button support are the QuickShot Maverick 1 (both standard and microswitch versions), which supports multiple home computers (including the MSX and Sharp X68000, which never made it out of Japan) and features dual leads (one for each joystick port) and a switch to select which port is active (similar to the NES Advantage), and the Competition Pro Star (blue shell, silver/chrome stick and buttons with two additional smaller, triangular sub-buttons on the top, in front of the stick).

The CP Star comes in two versions: One for home computers with an auto-detect feature (the controls depend on which system it is plugged into), slow motion and rapid fire (the former particularly is superfluous), and one for the Sega Master System (the CP Star was originally built and released for the SMS), with the larger circular buttons acting as Button 1/Start and the smaller triangular sub-buttons being Button 2.

Both models feature a switch at the rear for rapid fire (the home computer version allows you to use it in conjunction with the rapid fire button, while the Sega version simply enables/disables it for BOTH buttons simultaneously) and slow motion (home computer version only)

Get the Sega version of the CP Star if you can find it - it's a much more practical model and can easily be used on other computers (just don't press the smaller buttons if you can help it, as not all machines support 2 buttons, and the MSX/Sharp X68000 has a slightly different pinout compared to the Atari/Commodore/Sega standard).
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