Change Paula/CD Audio volume with a commodity

Leandro Jardim · 19 March 2014, 06:13

I think WinUAE needs a commodity tool for allow to change the Paula volume level directly on Workbench, like we does on the Windows desktop. (On a true Amiga this is not possible, but under emulation it should be...)

Probably one that shows an appicon and optionally a Workbench Tools menu entry and open a small GadTools GUI when clicked.

thomas · 19 March 2014, 14:54

Shouldn't be too difficult. Here is a small CLI tool to change volume. I'll work on GUI + commodity later.

Leandro Jardim · 19 March 2014, 19:52

Thanks Thomas, sincerely I could not believe you will make this "applet", I know its a hard work but I think you are a excellent programmer.

As I said its unbelievable... Thank you very much.

PS. Message sent with IBrowse and WinUAE...

thomas · 20 March 2014, 18:33

GUI added. Comments please.

Leandro Jardim · 20 March 2014, 21:30

Hi Thomas, the mixer is getting better than I could imagine, the custom "knobs" are very cool, the GUI is very Win9x "stylish"!

One thing though, are small sound stuttering/pops when I drag the slider. Maybe its a WinUAE issue with DirectSound (and Asio4all) audio and may be easily fixable, or a simple delay between the drag and the mixer change could help?

bubbob42 · 21 March 2014, 18:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomas

GUI added. Comments please.

Works like a charm and looks ok on OCS/ECS-screens with few colors. Images are a bit large (even on a 1920x1200 screen) and window could also be smaller.

Would it be possible to show the actual output in the sliders' background in "volume meter style" (like in Windows)?

Thanks for attaching the source as well, that's always both helpful and interesting!

thomas · 22 March 2014, 16:42

Latest WIP release.

- opens under mouse pointer
- volume is changed only five times a second, not on every mouse move
- area below the knob is filled with different color than above
- knobs can be moved by the mouse wheel
- uses images with correct aspect ratio on non-interlaced hi-res screens
- colors are automatically adjusted if black and white are swapped (e.g. WB 1.3)
- compatible with Kick 1.3.

Leandro Jardim · 24 March 2014, 02:48

It works very nice here.

thomas · 24 March 2014, 09:43

Ok, now I would like to discuss the necessity of more features. IMHO the program is complete as it is.

Features mentioned above are:

- commodity (possibility to open the window by hot key)
- (app) icon on the desktop
- entry in Workbench's tools menu

All of these would mean that the program stays resident and occupies memory all the time while it's not being used. IMHO this is not needed. Most people working with hot keys and Workbench menus run programs to customise these anyway. So to get a hot key you can use FKey or the like. To get a menu entry you can use Workbench's ARexx port or ToolsDaemon or the like. To get an icon on the desktop you can just leave out the program icon.

What's your oppinion?

Leandro Jardim · 24 March 2014, 10:46

I think its perfect, it not needs any feature anymore.

Leandro Jardim · 27 March 2014, 12:25

Thanks Thomas, for giving a bit of your time to make this tool, time is a very precious thing for programmers.

Thanks.

thomas · 27 March 2014, 14:47

Final version, ready for Aminet.

- added command line options
- added proper version string
- added icons for C source and readme files

You can upload it to Aminet if you like. Otherwise I'll do it on the weekend. I cannot use FTP from here.

If you do it, please use the readme file which is in the archive.

B14ck W01f · 30 March 2014, 06:05

I noticed in the latest beta in WinUAE, Toni has added two options in the Sound section: one for Paula volume, and one for CD Audio.

Michael Sykes · 15 April 2014, 12:55

An icon on the screen seems enough but it is often covered by Apps or WB windows.
It would be more useful if it where a comodity so one could hide it without an icon on the workbench.A tooltip to start minimized would also come in very handy.

I run WB2000 and that way it would apear on the right side of the taskbar like most other iconified stuff (and in the WB tools menu of course).A hotkey would be nice,too.
That way it could go right into our WBStartup folders.

trydowave · 27 April 2014, 11:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by B14ck W01f

I noticed in the latest beta in WinUAE, Toni has added two options in the Sound section: one for Paula volume, and one for CD Audio.

much needed.

It was because of this problem that I ended up buying a mixer for my A1200 and cdrom.

Leandro Jardim · 16 August 2015, 01:30

Hi, thomas, I am trying to use your tool with WinUAE versions newer than 2.8.1, and it doesnt work. Do you have plans for fixing the tool for WinUAE 3.1.0 and beyond?

thomas · 16 August 2015, 12:44

Preview of the latest version:

Leandro Jardim · 17 August 2015, 01:10

Thank you, thomas, I will try it.

This is a little nice utility. It reminds me of the volume icon on the "tray" of the Windows 95+ task bar (but I think I already said that).

Leandro Jardim · 17 August 2015, 13:21

It works well; albeit the Tocatta slider wont work on WinUAE 2.3.1 and the CD slider seems to sometimes "stop" the sound the Tocatta was playing. I am not sure if it is a bug of UAEMixer or is caused by the many changes between WinUAE versions.

Despite the issues, its best than ever.

Michael Sykes · 18 August 2015, 00:01

Toccata is a reaaly nice add Thomas. But I still think it would be nice to make it a comodity so it can be started minimized, opened from the tools menu or via hotkey. In my case even from WB2000s comodity menu.
If thats not too much trouble, I beg you to add that feature.Please...

19 March 2014, 06:13	#1
Leandro Jardim Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Legoland Age: 45 Posts: 1,461	Change Paula/CD Audio volume with a commodity I think WinUAE needs a commodity tool for allow to change the Paula volume level directly on Workbench, like we does on the Windows desktop. (On a true Amiga this is not possible, but under emulation it should be...) Probably one that shows an appicon and optionally a Workbench Tools menu entry and open a small GadTools GUI when clicked.

20 March 2014, 18:33	#4
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 7,002	GUI added. Comments please. Last edited by thomas; 22 March 2014 at 16:43.

22 March 2014, 16:42	#7
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 7,002	Latest WIP release. - opens under mouse pointer - volume is changed only five times a second, not on every mouse move - area below the knob is filled with different color than above - knobs can be moved by the mouse wheel - uses images with correct aspect ratio on non-interlaced hi-res screens - colors are automatically adjusted if black and white are swapped (e.g. WB 1.3) - compatible with Kick 1.3. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by thomas; 27 March 2014 at 14:47.

15 April 2014, 12:55	#14
Michael Sykes WinUAE end user Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Bremen Age: 44 Posts: 649	An icon on the screen seems enough but it is often covered by Apps or WB windows. It would be more useful if it where a comodity so one could hide it without an icon on the workbench.A tooltip to start minimized would also come in very handy. I run WB2000 and that way it would apear on the right side of the taskbar like most other iconified stuff (and in the WB tools menu of course).A hotkey would be nice,too. That way it could go right into our WBStartup folders. Last edited by Michael Sykes; 16 August 2015 at 12:24.

17 August 2015, 01:10	#18
Leandro Jardim Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Legoland Age: 45 Posts: 1,461	Thank you, thomas, I will try it. This is a little nice utility. It reminds me of the volume icon on the "tray" of the Windows 95+ task bar (but I think I already said that). Last edited by Leandro Jardim; 17 August 2015 at 13:24.

19 March 2014, 19:52	#3
Leandro Jardim Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Legoland Age: 45 Posts: 1,461	Thanks Thomas, sincerely I could not believe you will make this "applet", I know its a hard work but I think you are a excellent programmer. As I said its unbelievable... Thank you very much. PS. Message sent with IBrowse and WinUAE...

20 March 2014, 21:30	#5
Leandro Jardim Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Legoland Age: 45 Posts: 1,461	Hi Thomas, the mixer is getting better than I could imagine, the custom "knobs" are very cool, the GUI is very Win9x "stylish"! One thing though, are small sound stuttering/pops when I drag the slider. Maybe its a WinUAE issue with DirectSound (and Asio4all) audio and may be easily fixable, or a simple delay between the drag and the mixer change could help?

24 March 2014, 02:48	#8
Leandro Jardim Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Legoland Age: 45 Posts: 1,461	It works very nice here.

24 March 2014, 09:43	#9
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 7,002	Ok, now I would like to discuss the necessity of more features. IMHO the program is complete as it is. Features mentioned above are: - commodity (possibility to open the window by hot key) - (app) icon on the desktop - entry in Workbench's tools menu All of these would mean that the program stays resident and occupies memory all the time while it's not being used. IMHO this is not needed. Most people working with hot keys and Workbench menus run programs to customise these anyway. So to get a hot key you can use FKey or the like. To get a menu entry you can use Workbench's ARexx port or ToolsDaemon or the like. To get an icon on the desktop you can just leave out the program icon. What's your oppinion?

24 March 2014, 10:46	#10
Leandro Jardim Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Legoland Age: 45 Posts: 1,461	I think its perfect, it not needs any feature anymore.

27 March 2014, 12:25	#11
Leandro Jardim Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Legoland Age: 45 Posts: 1,461	Thanks Thomas, for giving a bit of your time to make this tool, time is a very precious thing for programmers. Thanks.

30 March 2014, 06:05	#13
B14ck W01f m68k all the way Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Koalaland Posts: 523	I noticed in the latest beta in WinUAE, Toni has added two options in the Sound section: one for Paula volume, and one for CD Audio.

16 August 2015, 01:30	#16
Leandro Jardim Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Legoland Age: 45 Posts: 1,461	Hi, thomas, I am trying to use your tool with WinUAE versions newer than 2.8.1, and it doesnt work. Do you have plans for fixing the tool for WinUAE 3.1.0 and beyond?

17 August 2015, 13:21	#19
Leandro Jardim Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Legoland Age: 45 Posts: 1,461	It works well; albeit the Tocatta slider wont work on WinUAE 2.3.1 and the CD slider seems to sometimes "stop" the sound the Tocatta was playing. I am not sure if it is a bug of UAEMixer or is caused by the many changes between WinUAE versions. Despite the issues, its best than ever. Last edited by Leandro Jardim; 20 August 2020 at 11:45.

18 August 2015, 00:01	#20
Michael Sykes WinUAE end user Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Bremen Age: 44 Posts: 649	Toccata is a reaaly nice add Thomas. But I still think it would be nice to make it a comodity so it can be started minimized, opened from the tools menu or via hotkey. In my case even from WB2000s comodity menu. If thats not too much trouble, I beg you to add that feature.Please...

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