Amithlon Setup Guide - Page 12

alpyre · 22 August 2009, 17:20

@arti :
I really am very excited... please keep trying

prowler · 22 August 2009, 17:26

@arti:

^ What alpyre said. We're all very excited!

Charlie · 02 September 2009, 19:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by prowler

@arti:

^ What alpyre said. We're all very excited!

Ditto - all the best with your efforts...

...sorry, I've not been keeping a close eye on the thread.

cosmicfrog · 02 September 2009, 23:53

keep up thy good work ppl

arti · 06 September 2009, 22:18

I have some OT questions:
Why AmiKit on amithlon is loading longer then in WinUae?
How to make SimpleMail send mail?
Now I get "Can't make safe connection".
Thanks.

alpyre · 07 September 2009, 07:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by arti

I have some OT questions:
Why AmiKit on amithlon is loading longer then in WinUae?
Thanks.

Only god knows why... :P

Quote:

Originally Posted by arti

How to make SimpleMail send mail?
Now I get "Can't make safe connection".

A little off topic but... I know how I can help...
Your problem is about setting the SMTP server. The server that you log in for sending e-mail...
Most SMTP Servers use secure connection. Which is good. There are two security standards:
Transport Layer Security (TLS) or Secure Sockets Layer (SSL).

Few servers use either of them. Most of them are configured to use only one of these standarts. And also most of the servers restrict connections until they receive a StartSSL or StartTSL command from client.

We don't see these standarts when setting up the SMTP in e-mail clients that we use on Windows. Most of the time they only have a tickbox to activate secure connection. Because these software automatically queries the server for which security standart to use.

It seems Simple Mail only supports SSL for SMTP. And it is not intelligent enough to query the server and give an appropriate error message... And the worse is that : most of the servers use only TLS in SMTP.

So what do we do?
Well you can wait for the developers to add TLS support to Simple Mail.
Meanwhile you can use YAM... (which is much better at this...)

Here are two screenshots for setting up YAM for:
Hotmail (a.k.a Windows Live Mail)

GMail (I belive you will use this one...)

Please check out that TLSv1 is selected for SMTP in both configurations.

Hope this helps...

arti · 07 September 2009, 16:15

Thank you alper for very exhaustive answer.
I will switch to YAM then, only miss Imap support but I at least I can send messages.

arti · 10 September 2009, 00:24

@Tero

Are you sure it was CentOS 3.9?
I tried it and new kernel needs glibc 2.3.4.
Somebody on #centos told me thant Centos-3 can't have this package.
Do have link to this german board?
If somebady told there that new kernel compiles on C OS
so he must have it, right?
Why he didn't release it then?

tero · 10 September 2009, 01:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by arti

@Tero

Are you sure it was CentOS 3.9?
I tried it and new kernel needs glibc 2.3.4.
Somebody on #centos told me thant Centos-3 can't have this package.
Do have link to this german board?
If somebady told there that new kernel compiles on C OS
so he must have it, right?
Why he didn't release it then?

Here's the link.. you won't find a new kernel there
but they are searching for a way to get one

http://www.a1k.org/forum/showthread.php?t=12250

some post's down he said that the 3.10 kernel compiles without changes
or fixes. Second one confirmed compile within VMWare
but it's all about existing kernel

There is another big Amithlon thread with much more info's
but it needs time to read (>1300 posts) and it's in german
first post was 2006 but it's alive

http://www.a1k.org/forum/showthread.php?t=5632

@Charlie @Alpyre
Great work - THX again
couldn't test that much but for now it's

to bad that i have to use the original Kernel from CD
it's the only one that works on my 'big' machine

tero · 12 September 2009, 23:02

For all guys not talking german than:
they said ...

In case of changes do a "make clean"
and to compile
"make dep", "make", "make modules"

This is for CentOS 3.9 and kernel 3.10

The Diff file on aminet isn't usefull for this but can help to find where the
Amithlon specific changes was made

arti · 13 September 2009, 22:29

Thanks. Will try that.

dframeli · 14 September 2009, 23:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by prowler

I have a copy of the AmithlonUpdate v1.31, but I have not been able to find any evidence that rZool's unofficial AmithlonUpdate v1.32 was ever released.

Anyone have an e-mail address for rZool? He no longer has an account on the EAB. I'd like to dig further with regards to obtaining a copy of the unreleased Update v1.32 and the Amiga XL remover utility.

Thanks!

prowler · 15 September 2009, 00:07

Hi Dale,

That's a good idea of yours to try contacting rZool with a view to getting hold of his updates, even if they are only a WIP.

If nobody can supply rZool's email address (and I've just tried Googling rZool and found nothing useful), it might be worth dropping RCK a PM to see if he could forward a message on your behalf (assuming the email rZool used to register with EAB is still valid).

alpyre · 19 September 2009, 23:43

NetSurf 3.0 Development release...

Very very well done Arti... This one really is serious.
A really cool browser for Amithlon...
You should see these screen shots, and try it for yourself as soon as possible...

Kyon · 20 September 2009, 12:18

I cant belive my eyes . a good job well done . keep it up

alpyre · 30 September 2009, 17:58

Hi people,

I have gathered some CD games for Amiga.
Most of them supports RTG and AHI but I still cannot play them on Amithlon.

One of them says that I have no BigEndian (RGB16) Pixel Format Screen Modes...
Another one requires a 15bit ScreenMode.

Is there a way I can get these screen modes on Amithlon?

tero · 01 October 2009, 08:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by alpyre

Hi people,

I have gathered some CD games for Amiga.
Most of them supports RTG and AHI but I still cannot play them on Amithlon.

One of them says that I have no BigEndian (RGB16) Pixel Format Screen Modes...
Another one requires a 15bit ScreenMode.

Is there a way I can get these screen modes on Amithlon?

Which games have these screenmodes?
It's better to have something to try with...

Charlie · 01 October 2009, 17:42

Hmmm, most interesting developments - I do like netsurf & have been hoping a 68k compile would come along...
...sooo annoying that it's a RiscOS native browser but development on the primary platform has stopped and now later versions can be found for 'other' platforms.

@ alpyre:
How's things old chap?

As a wild guess I wonder if those games were written with CyberGFX rather than P96 in mind..?
Another wild guess could be I'm not sure nVidia cards support 15bit modes - I think some older GFX (Amiga-native) cards have 15bit, maybe ATi cards too.

What games are you trying?

Regards,

alpyre · 01 October 2009, 19:28

Hi Charlie...
I'm doing nice... thanks. I was happy with my Amithlon. Now I've added a PPC A1200 to my workroom... I'm twice happy now

I hope you've checked your PM too

@tero & Charlie
The games are:
NightLong - Union City Conspiracy (the Amiga version).
It wants a 640x480x15bit screenmode.

Napalm
Chrashes due to my screen modes are not BigEndian (RGB16) Pixel Format...

tero · 03 October 2009, 18:59

@Alpyre

Can't find napalm or Nightlong(only PC version found)
Legal team17 downloads exclude nightlong

All AmigaCD's i have at home don't use rtg, sorry

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22 August 2009, 17:20	#221
alpyre Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Samsun / Turkey Posts: 66	@arti : I really am very excited... please keep trying

22 August 2009, 17:26	#222
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	@arti: ^ What alpyre said. We're all very excited!

02 September 2009, 23:53	#224
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 56 Posts: 3,557	keep up thy good work ppl

06 September 2009, 22:18	#225
arti Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Poland Posts: 662	I have some OT questions: Why AmiKit on amithlon is loading longer then in WinUae? How to make SimpleMail send mail? Now I get "Can't make safe connection". Thanks.

07 September 2009, 16:15	#227
arti Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Poland Posts: 662	Thank you alper for very exhaustive answer. I will switch to YAM then, only miss Imap support but I at least I can send messages.

10 September 2009, 00:24	#228
arti Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Poland Posts: 662	@Tero Are you sure it was CentOS 3.9? I tried it and new kernel needs glibc 2.3.4. Somebody on #centos told me thant Centos-3 can't have this package. Do have link to this german board? If somebady told there that new kernel compiles on C OS so he must have it, right? Why he didn't release it then?

12 September 2009, 23:02	#230
tero Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: M'Gladbach Age: 46 Posts: 621	For all guys not talking german than: they said ... In case of changes do a "make clean" and to compile "make dep", "make", "make modules" This is for CentOS 3.9 and kernel 3.10 The Diff file on aminet isn't usefull for this but can help to find where the Amithlon specific changes was made

13 September 2009, 22:29	#231
arti Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Poland Posts: 662	Thanks. Will try that.

15 September 2009, 00:07	#233
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	Hi Dale, That's a good idea of yours to try contacting rZool with a view to getting hold of his updates, even if they are only a WIP. If nobody can supply rZool's email address (and I've just tried Googling rZool and found nothing useful), it might be worth dropping RCK a PM to see if he could forward a message on your behalf (assuming the email rZool used to register with EAB is still valid).

19 September 2009, 23:43	#234
alpyre Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Samsun / Turkey Posts: 66	NetSurf 3.0 Development release... Very very well done Arti... This one really is serious. A really cool browser for Amithlon... You should see these screen shots, and try it for yourself as soon as possible...

20 September 2009, 12:18	#235
Kyon Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SOS Brigade Age: 32 Posts: 696	I cant belive my eyes . a good job well done . keep it up

30 September 2009, 17:58	#236
alpyre Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Samsun / Turkey Posts: 66	Hi people, I have gathered some CD games for Amiga. Most of them supports RTG and AHI but I still cannot play them on Amithlon. One of them says that I have no BigEndian (RGB16) Pixel Format Screen Modes... Another one requires a 15bit ScreenMode. Is there a way I can get these screen modes on Amithlon?

01 October 2009, 17:42	#238
Charlie . . Mouse . . Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nowhere Age: 55 Posts: 1,792	Hmmm, most interesting developments - I do like netsurf & have been hoping a 68k compile would come along... ...sooo annoying that it's a RiscOS native browser but development on the primary platform has stopped and now later versions can be found for 'other' platforms. @ alpyre: How's things old chap? As a wild guess I wonder if those games were written with CyberGFX rather than P96 in mind..? Another wild guess could be I'm not sure nVidia cards support 15bit modes - I think some older GFX (Amiga-native) cards have 15bit, maybe ATi cards too. What games are you trying? Regards,

01 October 2009, 19:28	#239
alpyre Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Samsun / Turkey Posts: 66	Hi Charlie... I'm doing nice... thanks. I was happy with my Amithlon. Now I've added a PPC A1200 to my workroom... I'm twice happy now I hope you've checked your PM too @tero & Charlie The games are: NightLong - Union City Conspiracy (the Amiga version). It wants a 640x480x15bit screenmode. Napalm Chrashes due to my screen modes are not BigEndian (RGB16) Pixel Format...

03 October 2009, 18:59	#240
tero Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: M'Gladbach Age: 46 Posts: 621	@Alpyre Can't find napalm or Nightlong(only PC version found) Legal team17 downloads exclude nightlong All AmigaCD's i have at home don't use rtg, sorry

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