A500/+ Hard drives

Mike UK · 01 February 2007, 17:29

Hiya all just wondering how much A590`s usually go for and do they work alright with the A500?

also got a choice on a GVP Impact 2 HDD (Doesnt come with a psu but looks easy enough to rig one up

Just wondering how much i should offer really

Cheers

Mike

cv643d · 01 February 2007, 18:55

Definitely go for the GVP, the A590 is slow.

Price, I dont know but around 100 euro max?

Mike UK · 01 February 2007, 19:03

isnt the hard drive upgradeable in the A590 to a faster drive?

AMIGAZ · 01 February 2007, 19:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike UK

isnt the hard drive upgradeable in the A590 to a faster drive?

It's the interface itself that is slow

alexh · 01 February 2007, 19:59

The GVP one has been selling for under £40 on ebay recently.

There is no need for a separate PSU if you have an iron core A500 PSU (rather than the very light one). A small mod can be made to take the power from the A500.

The A590 can be made to go at approximately the same rate as the GVP with a few mods and tweaks. They are both limited to well below 3Mbyte/sec

Mike UK · 01 February 2007, 20:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

The GVP one has been selling for under £40 on ebay recently.

There is no need for a separate PSU if you have an iron core A500 PSU (rather than the very light one). A small mod can be made to take the power from the A500.

The A590 can be made to go at approximately the same rate as the GVP with a few mods and tweaks. They are both limited to well below 3Mbyte/sec

Yeah i read about the power mod shame i am useless with a soldering iron

looks like i was too slow on the gvp`s ill see if i can hunt a A590 cheaply on ebay how much you think ones worth ..obviously with transformer.

Cheers

Mike

StingRay · 02 February 2007, 11:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMIGAZ

It's the interface itself that is slow

That's wrong. The controller itself is pretty good and fast but the original HD used is totally slow.

Mike UK · 02 February 2007, 14:42

So how much is an A590 worth just wondering what i should offer casing is in average condition

Cheers

Mike

Mike UK · 02 February 2007, 16:44

Ah well I said 20 he said 25 so got it for 25

comes with disks and power supply ..give me something to mess with lol

Mike

alexh · 02 February 2007, 17:57

If it has the full 2Mbyte of ZIP RAM it's a good deal

Mike UK · 02 February 2007, 17:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

If it has the full 2Mbyte of ZIP RAM it's a good deal

Do the A590`s come with ram? I missed out on the GVP deal :*(

coze · 02 February 2007, 18:44

ZIP ? I thought that was called DIP ? (ZIP being the A3000-Oktagon ram chips)

alexh · 02 February 2007, 19:55

Ok, it may be DIP RAM, but it is 2Mbyte max, unlike the GVP which is 8.

Mike UK · 02 February 2007, 20:41

So will there be any problem connecting one of these up to an Amiga 500+? as they were designed for the A500?

Also what hard drives do they take standard scuzzi drives or something weird? think 20mb wont take long to fill

alexh · 02 February 2007, 23:54

It depends on which ROM version they have inside. Early ROMs dont work well with KS2.04 I think but I wouldnt swear on that.

Obviously a 1.3 hard drive wont boot with KS2.04 either.

Depending on what ROM version you have you may be limited to hard drives smaller than 512Mbytes.

Jope · 03 February 2007, 09:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

Obviously a 1.3 hard drive wont boot with KS2.04 either.

It will work just fine, although the 1.3 colour scheme doesn't look nice with the 2.04 3d look.

alexh · 03 February 2007, 09:34

My bad, it's the other way around isnt it... a 2.04 hard drive wont boot in 1.3

Mike UK · 03 February 2007, 14:38

Cool thought i was going to have another compatibility problem

..Wonder when all this amiga crap i bought online is going to arrive waiting on 6 different things and a pile of misc hardware and games

So what kind of hard drive do i need to upgrade the thing? or is it worth waiting for it to arrive before i buy a bigger disk?

Cheers

Mike

**Edit just got an email from the seller saying its been lost ..Ah great ill have to track down another one.

BuZz · 04 February 2007, 16:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

My bad, it's the other way around isnt it... a 2.04 hard drive wont boot in 1.3

Kickstart 1.3 will boot 2.04 harddisk, so long as it's not using an unsupported ffs option. If you use a newer ffs to format a disk, you will get some extra icons on 1.3 wb. My a500 boots from the hd from 1.3/2.04/3.1.

When it boots from 1.3, the startup sequence resets the palette to 1.3, and reassigns everything to sys:1.3/ and boots up a 1.3 workbench. Just for fun ;-)

01 February 2007, 17:29	#1
Mike UK Motorollin Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Huddersfield UK Age: 42 Posts: 249	A500/+ Hard drives Hiya all just wondering how much A590`s usually go for and do they work alright with the A500? also got a choice on a GVP Impact 2 HDD (Doesnt come with a psu but looks easy enough to rig one up Just wondering how much i should offer really Cheers Mike

03 February 2007, 14:38	#18
Mike UK Motorollin Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Huddersfield UK Age: 42 Posts: 249	Cool thought i was going to have another compatibility problem ..Wonder when all this amiga crap i bought online is going to arrive waiting on 6 different things and a pile of misc hardware and games So what kind of hard drive do i need to upgrade the thing? or is it worth waiting for it to arrive before i buy a bigger disk? Cheers Mike *Edit just got an email from the seller saying its been lost ..Ah great ill have to track down another one. Last edited by Mike UK; 03 February 2007 at 23:54.*

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01 February 2007, 18:55	#2
cv643d Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 762	Definitely go for the GVP, the A590 is slow. Price, I dont know but around 100 euro max?

01 February 2007, 19:03	#3
Mike UK Motorollin Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Huddersfield UK Age: 42 Posts: 249	isnt the hard drive upgradeable in the A590 to a faster drive?

01 February 2007, 19:59	#5
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	The GVP one has been selling for under £40 on ebay recently. There is no need for a separate PSU if you have an iron core A500 PSU (rather than the very light one). A small mod can be made to take the power from the A500. The A590 can be made to go at approximately the same rate as the GVP with a few mods and tweaks. They are both limited to well below 3Mbyte/sec

02 February 2007, 14:42	#8
Mike UK Motorollin Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Huddersfield UK Age: 42 Posts: 249	So how much is an A590 worth just wondering what i should offer casing is in average condition Cheers Mike

02 February 2007, 16:44	#9
Mike UK Motorollin Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Huddersfield UK Age: 42 Posts: 249	Ah well I said 20 he said 25 so got it for 25 comes with disks and power supply ..give me something to mess with lol Mike

02 February 2007, 17:57	#10
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	If it has the full 2Mbyte of ZIP RAM it's a good deal

02 February 2007, 18:44	#12
coze hastala vista winny vista Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mt fuji Age: 46 Posts: 1,335	ZIP ? I thought that was called DIP ? (ZIP being the A3000-Oktagon ram chips)

02 February 2007, 19:55	#13
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	Ok, it may be DIP RAM, but it is 2Mbyte max, unlike the GVP which is 8.

02 February 2007, 20:41	#14
Mike UK Motorollin Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Huddersfield UK Age: 42 Posts: 249	So will there be any problem connecting one of these up to an Amiga 500+? as they were designed for the A500? Also what hard drives do they take standard scuzzi drives or something weird? think 20mb wont take long to fill

02 February 2007, 23:54	#15
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	It depends on which ROM version they have inside. Early ROMs dont work well with KS2.04 I think but I wouldnt swear on that. Obviously a 1.3 hard drive wont boot with KS2.04 either. Depending on what ROM version you have you may be limited to hard drives smaller than 512Mbytes.

03 February 2007, 09:34	#17
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	My bad, it's the other way around isnt it... a 2.04 hard drive wont boot in 1.3

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