Acorn Archimedes games...

Baboon · 26 May 2018, 09:17

I'm going to install risc os on one of my raspberry pi's next week and have a dabble with some acorn archimedes software (basically reliving my days at school where they used to have the archimedes).

I've sourced most of the software I want (games like etype, lemmings, etc) but I'm having little joy finding the full game of zarch (virus on the amiga) and also battle chess, which I'm sure I used to play on the archimedes?

Does anyone on here have an idea where I might aquire the above?... Or are these non dumped games /still copyrighted and unavailable etc?

trixster · 26 May 2018, 12:23

http://qubeserver.com/Qube/qubeftp.p...and%20Golf.zip

Baboon · 26 May 2018, 15:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by trixster

http://qubeserver.com/Qube/qubeftp.p...and%20Golf.zip

Thank you

DDNI · 26 May 2018, 20:05

Wasn’t the best version of SWIV on the Archie?

Baboon · 27 May 2018, 22:55

Well I've got most things working on my pi but I can't get Zarch to work at all and don't really know how to convert the adf provided above to something that works in riscos via Adffs Jaspp?

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDNI

Wasn’t the best version of SWIV on the Archie?

It looks pretty much identical to me? The music on lemmings is much better though on the archimedes!

gazj82 · 27 May 2018, 23:28

I got a feeling most old software from the 90's doesn't work on modern versions of RISC OS from memory

Baboon · 28 May 2018, 00:01

Well I know from looking at YouTube vids zarch is playable with adffs running on raspberry pi, it just looks an impossible task (at least for me) to either track down the files or make playable myself by converting adfs to a format that does work. Hey ho.

MartinW · 28 May 2018, 12:01

Isn't Zarch one of those titles that is actively pursued and removed by the original author? Not saying it is, but I have a vague recollection of that sounding familiar from when I had an Archimedes here and was trying to play about with it.

I'm actually vaguely interested in trying RiscOS on one of the PI's I have kicking about here now

[PS] We never had Archimedes at school. We had a Research Machines 380Z. I kind of feel old now!

Ian · 28 May 2018, 12:07

The original author is David Braben, weird how he would pursue this and not Elite or any of his other games though.

But something like that must be happening as neither a demo (Lander) or Zarch exists in TOSEC.

rare_j · 28 May 2018, 12:11

What format do you need to convert it to make it work? I have it in apd format, (whatever that is) if that helps.

Baboon · 28 May 2018, 12:18

I've found an apf and also have the adf but it needs to be in jdf format I believe so it will work natively with adffs (so not having to boot into an emu like arcem)?

I just can't get this running on my pi? I've had a go at creating the jfd based on my apf but get the error using adffs (2.64?) 'could not allocate 28mb to the current wimoslot?' when I try loading it?

touko · 28 May 2018, 12:37

A guy try to port shadow of the beast on archie :
[ Show youtube player ]

This guy is well know here, it's zarchos !!

MartinW · 28 May 2018, 12:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian

The original author is David Braben, weird how he would pursue this and not Elite or any of his other games though.

But something like that must be happening as neither a demo (Lander) or Zarch exists in TOSEC.

Ahh, yeah, all coming back to me now. That IS what's going on. I think Elite is only about because he was co-author with Ian Bell and it was Ian Bell's site that you could get it from? May not be accurate, but it's something like that.

trixster · 28 May 2018, 13:51

The easiest way to get your Zarch adf file running on a Pi is to launch ArcEm and then run it through that. It works perfectly.

Im sure getting it running direct through jaspp is possible (I think I've done it, can't remember) but your best bet is to as Sirbod/Jon Abbott (the guy who authored jaspp) on the stardot forum or the jaspp one.

http://forums.jaspp.org.uk:9000/forum/

plasmab · 28 May 2018, 20:46

You need to use A310Emu or similar to play old archie games on the RiscPC/Kinetic/RPi.

This is because RO 4 and up have some critical changes to the OS that no longer supports the old Archie hardware.

Baboon · 29 May 2018, 08:20

Well I've got it running on my pi via arcem. It's running a bit fast so I'll need to check my settings but it works perfectly. Next to test is Chocks Away and e-type.

I'm loving playing about with risc os though, takes me right back to my childhood when we had these in school (and amiga when I got home from school haha).

Thanks for all the help people.

hooverphonique · 29 May 2018, 09:56

Is the ISA of modern ARM cpus even compatible with the one used in the Archimedes?

Baboon · 29 May 2018, 09:57

Anbody know how to slow down arcem as its running games too fast on my pi? Haha

Edit: All good now as changed pi config to arm_freq=800 to slow it down.

plasmab · 29 May 2018, 10:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by hooverphonique

Is the ISA of modern ARM cpus even compatible with the one used in the Archimedes?

32 bit clean code for Arm3 will run on modern Arm. But if you use more modern instructions it won’t work. Basically apart from the crazy 26bit only instructions it’s possible to make compatible code.

Baboon · 01 June 2018, 17:12

Anbody know a good place for adfs for acorn archimedes games? I'm particular after games released by 'fourth dimension' (the dungeon, powerband, stunt racer, plus a decent rip of Chocks Away disk 1, Provocstor, Abuse etc)?

It seems these are absolutely impossible to find anywhere.

Admins: Please delete the above message if this is against the rules!!

26 May 2018, 09:17	#1
Baboon Moon Monkey Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Plymouth, Devon Posts: 419	Acorn Archimedes games... I'm going to install risc os on one of my raspberry pi's next week and have a dabble with some acorn archimedes software (basically reliving my days at school where they used to have the archimedes). I've sourced most of the software I want (games like etype, lemmings, etc) but I'm having little joy finding the full game of zarch (virus on the amiga) and also battle chess, which I'm sure I used to play on the archimedes? Does anyone on here have an idea where I might aquire the above?... Or are these non dumped games /still copyrighted and unavailable etc?

28 May 2018, 12:18	#11
Baboon Moon Monkey Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Plymouth, Devon Posts: 419	I've found an apf and also have the adf but it needs to be in jdf format I believe so it will work natively with adffs (so not having to boot into an emu like arcem)? I just can't get this running on my pi? I've had a go at creating the jfd based on my apf but get the error using adffs (2.64?) 'could not allocate 28mb to the current wimoslot?' when I try loading it? Last edited by Baboon; 28 May 2018 at 12:24.

29 May 2018, 09:57	#18
Baboon Moon Monkey Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Plymouth, Devon Posts: 419	Anbody know how to slow down arcem as its running games too fast on my pi? Haha Edit: All good now as changed pi config to arm_freq=800 to slow it down. Last edited by Baboon; 29 May 2018 at 14:57.

01 June 2018, 17:12	#20
Baboon Moon Monkey Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Plymouth, Devon Posts: 419	Anbody know a good place for adfs for acorn archimedes games? I'm particular after games released by 'fourth dimension' (the dungeon, powerband, stunt racer, plus a decent rip of Chocks Away disk 1, Provocstor, Abuse etc)? It seems these are absolutely impossible to find anywhere. Admins: Please delete the above message if this is against the rules!! Last edited by Baboon; 01 June 2018 at 21:23.

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26 May 2018, 12:23	#2
trixster Guru Meditating Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: England Posts: 2,337	http://qubeserver.com/Qube/qubeftp.p...and%20Golf.zip

26 May 2018, 20:05	#4
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,431	Wasn’t the best version of SWIV on the Archie?

27 May 2018, 23:28	#6
gazj82 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Cambs / UK Posts: 356	I got a feeling most old software from the 90's doesn't work on modern versions of RISC OS from memory

28 May 2018, 00:01	#7
Baboon Moon Monkey Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Plymouth, Devon Posts: 419	Well I know from looking at YouTube vids zarch is playable with adffs running on raspberry pi, it just looks an impossible task (at least for me) to either track down the files or make playable myself by converting adfs to a format that does work. Hey ho.

28 May 2018, 12:01	#8
MartinW Registered User Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Minehead / UK Posts: 608	Isn't Zarch one of those titles that is actively pursued and removed by the original author? Not saying it is, but I have a vague recollection of that sounding familiar from when I had an Archimedes here and was trying to play about with it. I'm actually vaguely interested in trying RiscOS on one of the PI's I have kicking about here now [PS] We never had Archimedes at school. We had a Research Machines 380Z. I kind of feel old now!

28 May 2018, 12:07	#9
Ian Global Moderator Join Date: May 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 46 Posts: 2,287	The original author is David Braben, weird how he would pursue this and not Elite or any of his other games though. But something like that must be happening as neither a demo (Lander) or Zarch exists in TOSEC.

28 May 2018, 12:11	#10
rare_j Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London Posts: 1,176	What format do you need to convert it to make it work? I have it in apd format, (whatever that is) if that helps.

28 May 2018, 12:37	#12
touko Registered User Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: france Posts: 186	A guy try to port shadow of the beast on archie : [ Show youtube player ] This guy is well know here, it's zarchos !!

28 May 2018, 13:51	#14
trixster Guru Meditating Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: England Posts: 2,337	The easiest way to get your Zarch adf file running on a Pi is to launch ArcEm and then run it through that. It works perfectly. Im sure getting it running direct through jaspp is possible (I think I've done it, can't remember) but your best bet is to as Sirbod/Jon Abbott (the guy who authored jaspp) on the stardot forum or the jaspp one. http://forums.jaspp.org.uk:9000/forum/

28 May 2018, 20:46	#15
plasmab Banned Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: UK Posts: 2,917	You need to use A310Emu or similar to play old archie games on the RiscPC/Kinetic/RPi. This is because RO 4 and up have some critical changes to the OS that no longer supports the old Archie hardware.

29 May 2018, 08:20	#16
Baboon Moon Monkey Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Plymouth, Devon Posts: 419	Well I've got it running on my pi via arcem. It's running a bit fast so I'll need to check my settings but it works perfectly. Next to test is Chocks Away and e-type. I'm loving playing about with risc os though, takes me right back to my childhood when we had these in school (and amiga when I got home from school haha). Thanks for all the help people.

29 May 2018, 09:56	#17
hooverphonique ex. demoscener "Bigmama" Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Fyn / Denmark Posts: 1,624	Is the ISA of modern ARM cpus even compatible with the one used in the Archimedes?

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