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Old 05 March 2021, 16:20   #4161
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150% feels very sluggish. Makes you wish you bought a faster Mac.


400% is like having 60fps / driving a Porsche. Can't complain about that.

300% is totally fine to play.
Hmmm, this is the problem with setting "CPU Speed".

If I set anything above 150% then in the videos the CPU goes above 100 and you get jittering / audio issues.

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I played it at fastest possible -50% before, but that's CPU dependent and cycle-exact isn't, right?
Using those settings actually works best for me on my laptop; no jittering / audio issues is videos.

Is the actual game speed how you guy's would imagine it to be though?
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If I set anything above 150% then in the videos the CPU goes above 100 and you get jittering / audio issues.

I just watched the intro at 350% cycle-correct and my 4core CPU was at 11-13%.
Looks like you need a faster emulation machine for high end mid-90s Mac games.
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I just watched the intro at 350% cycle-correct and my 4core CPU was at 11-13%.
Looks like you need a faster emulation machine for high end mid-90s Mac games.
Yeah well, not going to happen; next time I purchase a new laptop will be when Diablo 4 comes out

Anyway, is "Fastest possible and CPU Speed -50%" good for all in terms of actually in-game speed?

We could also try setting say -40, -30, -20?
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DamienD what about MAC Diablo and Diablo 2 ?? There is also Diablo Hellfire (addon for D1)
https://macintoshgarden.org/games/diablo

https://macintoshgarden.org/games/diablo-ii

too much maybe ??
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DamienD what about MAC Diablo and Diablo 2 ?? There is also Diablo Hellfire (addon for D1)
https://macintoshgarden.org/games/diablo

https://macintoshgarden.org/games/diablo-ii

too much maybe ??
Yup, definitely too much...

Even "Diablo" requires a "Power Macintosh"; which ShapeShifter and Basilisk II don't emulate.
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We could also try setting say -40, -30, -20?

-40 is too fast. I like -60%.


or cycle-exact +400%


BTW: my CPU is at 30-40%, not 11-13% as i said before. I looked at the Task Manager, not the status bar in UAE.
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I've done loads more testing of different settings for Super Wing Commander.

For me "Fastest possible" is perfect and not too fast.

Decided I'm going to leave it how things are; as there are people who run my collection on computers less powerful than mine.

@twitek and philgood1351fr; you'll just have to adjust the config for this game on your powerful / fast computers.

Also twitek; in regards to Heroes of Might and Magic II: The Succession Wars, this is also set as "Fastest possible". Maybe try adjusting the CPU Speed so that you don't have the issue you reported.
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THANKS. Thats's what I did...
runs great
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Good for you; I don't bother emulating DOS games and these can be a pain to setup on modern systems i.e. run too fast, black screens etc...

That's where a pre-set up collection like eXoDOS is the king, just like yours for the Amiga or GameBase64 for the C64. There are so many titles from my childhood that have a new life now. I do not touch any of the modern games, I probably wouldn't even if I had the time. They are not for me

It's heartwarming to see how much people are willing to put their spare time in some projects. But I still kind of understand how it can consume you once you get up to speed.
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Hi Damien. The version of Workoholic you added is not the one i referred to, didn't even know there was this other version till just now.

work.O.holic - 1995 - http://janeway.exotica.org.uk/release.php?id=17987
work.A.holic - 1999 - http://janeway.exotica.org.uk/release.php?id=11962
work.A.holic - 1999 - https://demozoo.org/productions/22433/ for more info.

The newer version is AGA (i think) and came 4th at the party so may be a bit better than that older one and quite an achievement in 32k.

Cheers.

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@twitek and philgood1351fr; you'll just have to adjust the config for this game on your powerful / fast computers.

Also twitek; in regards to Heroes of Might and Magic II: The Succession Wars, this is also set as "Fastest possible". Maybe try adjusting the CPU Speed so that you don't have the issue you reported.

Speeds adjusted, all working fine.
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Hi Damien. The version of Workoholic you added is not the one i referred to, didn't even know there was this other version till just now.

work.O.holic - 1995 - http://janeway.exotica.org.uk/release.php?id=17987
work.A.holic - 1999 - http://janeway.exotica.org.uk/release.php?id=11962
work.A.holic - 1999 - https://demozoo.org/productions/22433/ for more info.

The newer version is AGA (i think) and came 4th at the party so may be a bit better than that older one and quite an achievement in 32k.

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Ooops, I thought it looked different

...will replace with the correct verison in the next Update Pack

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THANKS. Thats's what I did...
runs great
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Speeds adjusted, all working fine.
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I had to look close, thought they were same game under two names at first. Easy to not notice. I would give that newer version a quick try as well first though. I haven't played either of these versions yet and i have no idea which is the better game. Or maybe keep both?

BTW, i need a favour, or some info. I have almost finished compiling my list of additions, currently 47 games, mostly PD. Some were small games from coverdisks and are a single exe file, not even an icon (not that i need icons). I have extracted a few of these myself from the ADFs so i can make a standalone disk.

Have you got a certain go-to gamedisk (or disks) in the collection that you can swap an exe on and update a startup.sequence on and it'll boot and run the game? I think i would need one for a500 and one for a1200 (if other WB files are needed) or a simple disk that would cover both scenarios. I have ADF tools to modify them but a jumping off point would be a good start. Thanks.
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When I create standalone .ADFs of games, I usually just do this from scratch.

As for icons, if the game is missing one, I usually just use this AMOS one:
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@twitek and philgood1351fr; given that Super Wing Commander was too fast on your computers... and you needed to turn off "Fastest possible" and play with the "CPU Speed" slider.

You may want to look at these games also to make sure all is ok; and then adjust accordingly:


"Fastest possible" set:

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3D Ultra Pinball - Creep Night [RTG]   [ShapeShifter].uae
3D Ultra Pinball - Fastest Pinball in Space [RTG]   [ShapeShifter].uae
8bit Killer [AGA].uae
Abuse [RTG]   [MS-DOS conversion].uae
Alien Breed 3D II - The Killing Grounds [AGA] [4MB].uae
Alien Breed 3D II - Xenium Core [AGA]   [modification].uae
Alone in the Dark (Enhanced CD-ROM) [RTG]   [ShapeShifter].uae
Alone in the Dark 2 [RTG]   [ShapeShifter].uae
Alone in the Dark 3 [RTG]   [ShapeShifter].uae
Alone in the Dark [RTG]   [ShapeShifter].uae
AMRVoxel [AGA]   [unreleased] [demo].uae
AMRWolf [AGA]   [unreleased] [demo].uae
Back to Saturn X Episode 1 - Get Out of My Stations [RTG]   [ZDoom].uae
Berusky [AGA]   [MS-DOS conversion].uae
Blackthorne [RTG]   [ShapeShifter].uae
Blake Stone - Aliens of Gold [AGA]   [MS-DOS conversion].uae
Blake Stone - Planet Strike [AGA]   [MS-DOS conversion].uae
CannonBall - The Enhanced OutRun Engine [RTG]   [Arcade conversion].uae
Cave Story [RTG]   [Windows conversion].uae
Chaos Guns   [demo].uae
Dark Seed (CD-ROM) [RTG]   [ShapeShifter].uae
Dark Seed II [RTG]   [ShapeShifter].uae
Day of the Tentacle [AGA]   [ScummVM].uae
Descent - Freespace - The Great War [AmigaCD] [RTG].uae
Diamond Caves [AGA].uae
Discworld [RTG]   [ShapeShifter].uae
Doom II - Hell on Earth [RTG]   [ZDoom].uae
Doom [RTG]   [ZDoom].uae
Duke Nukem 3D [RTG]   [AmiDuke].uae
Earth 2140 & Earth 2140 - The Final Conflict - Mission Pack [AmigaCD] [RTG].uae
Escape Velocity Nova [RTG]   [ShapeShifter].uae
Escape Velocity Override [RTG]   [ShapeShifter].uae
Escape Velocity [RTG]   [ShapeShifter].uae
Exodus - The Last War [AmigaCD].uae
Flyin' High & Data Disks [AmigaCD].uae
Fortress of Fear [RTG]   [unreleased] [demo].uae
Full Throttle [AGA]   [ScummVM].uae
Gabriel Knight - Sins of the Fathers [RTG]   [ShapeShifter].uae
Gloom 3 - Zombie Edition [AmigaCD].uae
Gloom Deluxe.uae
Gloom Special Edition 97.uae
Gloom [AGA].uae
Great Nations [AGA]   [unreleased] [demo].uae
Heart of Darkness [RTG]   [Windows conversion].uae
Heart of the Alien - Out of this World Part II [AGA]   [Sega CD conversion].uae
Heretic & Hexen [AmigaCD] [RTG]   [MS-DOS conversion].uae
Heroes of Might and Magic II - The Succession Wars [AGA]   [Macintosh conversion].uae
Heroes of Might and Magic II - The Succession Wars [RTG]   [ShapeShifter].uae
Heroes of Might and Magic [RTG]   [ShapeShifter].uae
Hydra Castle Labyrinth [RTG]   [3DS conversion].uae
Jet Pilot [AGA].uae
Lode Runner On-Line - The Mad Monks' Revenge [RTG]   [ShapeShifter].uae
Mini Slug Project [RTG]   [Arcade conversion].uae
Myst [AmigaCD].uae
Napalm - The Crimson Crisis [AmigaCD].uae
Nemac IV - Director's Cut [AmigaCD].uae
Nemac IV [AGA].uae
Nightlong - Union City Conspiracy [AmigaCD] [RTG].uae
Prince of Persia 2 - The Shadow & The Flame [RTG]   [ShapeShifter].uae
Prince of Persia [RTG]   [ShapeShifter].uae
Quake [AmigaCD].uae
Realms of Power [AmigaCD] [RTG]   [unreleased] [demo].uae
Relics of Deldroneye - Falcon and the Medivians.uae
Relics of Deldroneye 1.5 - Return to Zantis.uae
Relics of Deldroneye 2 - Island of Debreen.uae
Repara Tronics [AGA].uae
Sam & Max Hit the Road [AGA]   [ScummVM].uae
Sim City 2000 [AGA].uae
Sim City 2000 [RTG]   [ShapeShifter].uae
Simon the Sorcerer II - The Lion, the Wizard and the Wardrobe [AmigaCD].uae
Simon the Sorcerer.uae
Smurf Rescue.uae
Spear of Destiny - Mission 2 - Return to Danger [RTG]   [AmiSpear].uae
Spear of Destiny - Mission 3 - Ultimate Challenge [RTG]   [AmiSpear].uae
Spear of Destiny [RTG]   [AmiSpear].uae
Star Wars - Rebel Assault [RTG]   [ShapeShifter].uae
Star Wars - X-Wing [RTG]   [ShapeShifter].uae
Streets of Rage   [demo].uae
Strife [RTG]   [Chocolate Doom].uae
Super Wing Commander [RTG]   [ShapeShifter].uae
Tales from Heaven [AmigaCD].uae
Testament [AGA].uae
Testament II [AGA].uae
TFX [AGA].uae
The Curse of Monkey Island [AGA]   [ScummVM].uae
The Dig [AGA]   [ScummVM].uae
The Feeble Files [AmigaCD] [RTG].uae
The Griffon Legend [RTG]   [Windows conversion].uae
The Legend of Kyrandia - Book 2 - The Hand of Fate [AGA]   [ScummVM].uae
The Legend of Kyrandia - Book 3 - Malcom's Revenge [AGA]   [ScummVM].uae
The Settlers II - Veni, Vidi, Vici [RTG]   [ShapeShifter].uae
Tronic Kids.uae
Tyrian [RTG]   [OpenTyrian].uae
Ultima VII - The Black Gate + The Forge of Virtue & Serpent Isle + The Silver Seed [RTG]   [Exult].uae
Ultimate XTreme Racing [AmigaCD].uae
Virtual Ball Fighters [AmigaCD].uae
Warcraft - Orcs & Humans [RTG]   [ShapeShifter].uae
Warcraft II - Tides of Darkness [RTG]   [ShapeShifter].uae
Wild Flying [RTG]   [unreleased] [demo].uae
Wolfenstein 3D [RTG]   [AmiWolf].uae
Zombie Massacre [AmigaCD].uae

"CPU Speed" adjusted:

Code:
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Catacomb 3D [AGA]   [Reflection Keen].uae
Catacomb Abyss [AGA]   [Reflection Keen].uae
Catacomb Apocalypse [AGA]   [Reflection Keen].uae
Catacomb Armageddon [AGA]   [Reflection Keen].uae
Chicken Coop.uae
Genetic Species [AmigaCD].uae
Heroes of Might and Magic II - The Succession Wars [AGA]   [Macintosh conversion].uae
Leading Lap MPV.uae
Legends of Valour.uae
MicroProse Formula One Grand Prix.uae
Nova 9 - The Return of Gir Draxon.uae
Payback [AmigaCD].uae
Power Pete [RTG]   [ShapeShifter].uae
Robinson's Requiem.uae
Space Station 3000 [AmigaCD]   [unreleased] [demo].uae
T-zer0 [AmigaCD].uae
The Golem [AGA]   [unreleased] [demo].uae
The Shadow of the Third Moon [AmigaCD].uae
Trapped - Das Rad von Talmar [AmigaCD].uae
Trapped 2 - Reincarnation of the Demons [AmigaCD].uae
Trapped III - FratzenGeballer [AGA]   [unreleased] [demo].uae
Turbo Racer 3D [AmigaCD].uae
Wet - The Sexy Empire [AmigaCD].uae
Zeewolf 2 - Wild Justice.uae
Zeewolf.uae

"JIT" set:

Code:
Search "cachesize=16384" (35 hits in 35 files)

Back to Saturn X Episode 1 - Get Out of My Stations [RTG]   [ZDoom].uae
CannonBall - The Enhanced OutRun Engine [RTG]   [Arcade conversion].uae
Cave Story [RTG]   [Windows conversion].uae
Day of the Tentacle [AGA]   [ScummVM].uae
Descent - Freespace - The Great War [AmigaCD] [RTG].uae
Discworld [RTG]   [ShapeShifter]
Doom II - Hell on Earth [RTG]   [ZDoom].uae
Doom [RTG]   [ZDoom].uae
Duke Nukem 3D [RTG]   [AmiDuke].uae
Escape Velocity Nova [RTG]   [ShapeShifter].uae
Fortress of Fear [RTG]   [unreleased] [demo].uae
Full Throttle [AGA]   [ScummVM].uae
Great Nations [AGA]   [unreleased] [demo].uae
Heart of Darkness [RTG]   [Windows conversion].uae
Heretic & Hexen [AmigaCD] [RTG]   [MS-DOS conversion].uae
Heroes of Might and Magic II - The Succession Wars [AGA]   [Macintosh conversion].uae
Hydra Castle Labyrinth [RTG]   [3DS conversion].uae
Mini Slug Project [RTG]   [Arcade conversion].uae
Nightlong - Union City Conspiracy [AmigaCD] [RTG].uae
Quake [AmigaCD].uae
Sam & Max Hit the Road [AGA]   [ScummVM].uae
Spear of Destiny - Mission 2 - Return to Danger [RTG]   [AmiSpear].uae
Spear of Destiny - Mission 3 - Ultimate Challenge [RTG]   [AmiSpear].uae
Spear of Destiny [RTG]   [AmiSpear].uae
Strife [RTG]   [Chocolate Doom].uae
TFX [AGA].uae
The Curse of Monkey Island [AGA]   [ScummVM].uae
The Dig [AGA]   [ScummVM].uae
The Feeble Files [AmigaCD] [RTG].uae
The Griffon Legend [RTG]   [Windows conversion].uae
The Legend of Kyrandia - Book 2 - The Hand of Fate [AGA]   [ScummVM].uae
The Legend of Kyrandia - Book 3 - Malcom's Revenge [AGA]   [ScummVM].uae
Tyrian [RTG]   [OpenTyrian].uae
Ultima VII - The Black Gate + The Forge of Virtue & Serpent Isle + The Silver Seed [RTG]   [Exult].uae
Wolfenstein 3D [RTG]   [AmiWolf].uae

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I've now added the above to the 2nd post:

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If you have a more modern, faster computer than my laptop (where I set everything up / tested on), some games run too fast:

... http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...postcount=4174
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just tested 5 shapeShifter games (2 Star Wars, 3d Pinball, POP2 and Escape Velocity ) and they're all a bit overspeed. same behavious. It's sometimes usefull (more friendly to play).
tested Cave Story and Tyrian : too fast. playing with CPU speed is not conveniant on Cave Story (it's either too slow or too fast, no mid setting...).
All ScummVM run at good speed.
Can't find Flyin' High in the list...did I missed an update ?
Both Alien Breed run good, so as 8 bit killer and Abuse.
Mini Slug is good too (and great remake in my opinion).
didn't have time to test the rest.
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Seems fine on my phenom II which is now old as dirt but everything plays as it should.
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just tested 5 shapeShifter games (2 Star Wars, 3d Pinball, POP2 and Escape Velocity ) and they're all a bit overspeed. same behavious. It's sometimes usefull (more friendly to play).
tested Cave Story and Tyrian : too fast. playing with CPU speed is not conveniant on Cave Story (it's either too slow or too fast, no mid setting...).
All ScummVM run at good speed.
Can't find Flyin' High in the list...did I missed an update ?
Both Alien Breed run good, so as 8 bit killer and Abuse.
Mini Slug is good too (and great remake in my opinion).
didn't have time to test the rest.
Sorry, I know it's a bit of a pain but after what yourself and twitek experienced, I thought I best to provide a list.

Unfortunately I can't really fix, new computers will run things faster if "Fastest possible" is set, and I also need to set my configuration files for the majority of people, which I feel most run on a computer similar to my specs or even lower.

Re: Flyin' High... see here:

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Games in my collection that I cannot share:

... http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...postcount=2003
Actually, I can now probably include Black Dawn Rebirth in my collection since it's no longer "purchase only"... but I'd still recommend people support the developer and at least give the minimal £2.00:

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BD Rebirth Deluxe edition was just the original version with the map editor and the originals source code. There is also the standard version also on Itch.IO which is free of charge. After Double Sided games 12 month deal on the game expired I wanted to get it up on Itch.io at either half the price DB games were charging or free of charge to get it out to as many people as possible so that when the expansion Black Dawn Rogue comes out next month it would be available to everyone ( since it requires the original disks).

Black Dawn Rogue will be comming out on both a Physical release and digital downloads. Bitmap Software are handling the phsyical release but as I wanted it as cheap as possible (the 50 pound charge of the original was ridiculous) I think were are going with a3 cases as opposed to a big box, This way hopefully we can get it out for under 20 pounds. Cover arts already done (by Trevor Story) and its amazing (its going on my wall!)

As for the game ? Its my favorite BD game ive done. The engines far more polished, its slicker and faster and i really love the procedurally generated levels. Being able to play it without having designed the levels is awesome!

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When I create standalone .ADFs of games, I usually just do this from scratch.

As for icons, if the game is missing one, I usually just use this AMOS one:
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